Age of The Great Pyramid ....Precisly

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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Bob137 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:44 pm

That is part of the problem. When Zari Hawass was asked about having them tested, he stated that he would not succumb to such ridiculous theories, and he would not discuss it. If I remember right that was on one of his shows, or on Nat Geo on Egyptian Mummies.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby mahalla2 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:46 am

Bob137 wrote:That is part of the problem. When Zari Hawass was asked about having them tested, he stated that he would not succumb to such ridiculous theories, and he would not discuss it. If I remember right that was on one of his shows, or on Nat Geo on Egyptian Mummies.


yes, and some of those ridiculous theories probably hold the key to the truth - Personally, I believe the Kush were first to be there, and people akin to these tribes built the first structures.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Moon » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:37 pm

Bob137 wrote:That is part of the problem. When Zari Hawass was asked about having them tested, he stated that he would not succumb to such ridiculous theories, and he would not discuss it. If I remember right that was on one of his shows, or on Nat Geo on Egyptian Mummies.


I really do hope his replacement has an open mind. But given the nature of the political situation there, I am guessing they will have another person who is afraid to rock the boat.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby half baked lasagna » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:31 am

SP, I get it, you're not a sheep...although I have no idea why you keep saying that...are you implying that I am a sheep, and am unable to make my own decisions? The only thing this JJ fella is saying is that the Pyramids weren't built when they supposedly said they were. There is no way of carbon dating stone, so here we are again, wondering. LOL.. I was also a little skeptical about taking the word of someone who gets confused between the words wither, and whether, anyway... BAAAHHHH
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Polaris » Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:52 pm

my 'sawdust' was smoldering trying to sum up the various points being made...
and what we really are left with is giving it a 'best guess' - based on the facts before us, and just what are those facts:

1 - Howard-Vyse was a fraud and so was Cheops. So anyone using them as a source is simply misinformed and frankly wrong, and by extension. anyone basing other dates of other events/buildings/cultures/ etc are also wrong. There is a saying that sums it quite nicely, GIGO - garbage in, garbage out...and what are you holding?... garbage!

2 - SP refers to JJ who refers to a geologist that dated the Sphinx's water erosion patterns. Basically, the base of the Sphinx has these irrefutable patterns - I've seen pics and I agree. (If I'm not mistaken he was at the receiving end of the 'scientific communities wrath' for quite some time.) Therefore, Egypt's climate had to be different than its current Water Age (since ice turns to water with warmth...;). So the Sphinx has to be constructed AT LEAST prior to the end of the last Ice Age. And it had to be long enough prior to that end, for all the erosion patterns to form - so when was that? When did earth's climate, or at least when did the climate of Egypt change from tropical to arid.

3 - Many ancient cultures from around the world wrote about the pyramids and who built them - attributing them to the Ancient people that predate the Pharaohs. Thus the Pharaohs inherited the buildings, as did the current Egyptians...

4 -
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Buzi-Blu » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:49 pm

I'll add a brief comment, which may have already been touched on.

Following Bauval and Hancock's claims, years ago I wrote my own program to check which dates the four shafts in the Great Pyramid would line up with significant stars. Taking into account the large proper motion of Sirius also, I could find only one date that created alignments. That date was 2450 BCE (with a 25 year error I think, 50 at most).

I specifically looked for alignments around 11000 BCE and beyond but found none. The date of 2450 BCE is of course, very close to the accepted date. So, it is either a remarkable coincidence or a real indication of the date of construction (of the shafts at least).

The paperwork is in a box somewhere, and the program probably lost, but I'll try and find the details. I don't know how accurate my program was, but it did confirm Bauval and Hancock's claims.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Sunrisepony » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:19 pm

@ Polaris

Wasn't the last ice age the Pleistocene Ice Age? The last glacial period was the most recent glacial period within the current ice age occurring during the last years of the Pleistocene, from approximately 110,000 to 10,000 years ago. Which at the very least places the Sphinx pre-Bronze Age Cataclysmic flood at the very least. And, still yet around 10,500 years to 100,000 years. But I'm willing to bet on the lower end as there seems to be a lot of Stone and Megalithic Building sites etc having been built in the 10,000 to 20,000+ range.

@ Buzi-Blu

Did those calculations take into consideration the degrees of crustal and polar axis shift that have taken place or were they based on the current crustal locations and tilt of the earth's axis?

Somewhere along the way there was obviously a couple crustal shifts, and rather rapidly. They discovered warm climate animals flash frozen in Siberia, indicating that area at one time was temperate. During the time period Woolly Mammoths existed. There are writings that talk about a large crustal shift having taken place during the end of the Bronze Age, and predictions from many sources that mention sometime in the next 3-5 years, another 90 shift will happen of the crust as the Geomagnetic and Physical Poles of the earth realign and the earth "up rights" it's self correcting it's tilt.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Buzi-Blu » Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:35 am

The fours stars were: Alpha Draconis, Kochab, Al-Nitak and Sirius.

Sunrisepony wrote:Did those calculations take into consideration the degrees of crustal and polar axis shift that have taken place or were they based on the current crustal locations and tilt of the earth's axis?


I took account of precession and proper motion. I did not take account of the smaller effects from the Milankovitch cycles, nor of unsubstantiated crustal displacements.

Theories of crustal displacement are not new, I have read them 15 or 20 years ago, but I still see no hard facts to back it up. It is extremely dangerous to build a speculative theory from other speculative theories, but is a method often seen. Anyway, I am not holding to any particular view, I am just pointing out that those shafts did align with stars around the traditionally accepted date (and well after any crustal movement would have taken place). There will be errors: errors in the positions of stars, errors in the accepted field of view and errors in the slopes of the shafts.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Sunrisepony » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:01 am

Flash frozen animals in Siberia is a very strong supportive feature of Sudden Crustal Displacement. Among other things. There is evidence out there to support crustal displacement in many instances. Think about this Japan quake that happened, it displaced the tilt of the earth's polar axis by was it 8 degrees?
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Buzi-Blu » Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:39 am

The Japanese quake caused a displacement of up to 8 feet and the Earth's axis by a 25cm - a tiny shift.

What is often not stated, is that climate change can be rapid. In one case I heard, the ice cores from Greenland indicated that during the Younger Dryas period the climate moved from warmer to an ice age snow pattern within a maximum of 10 years, possibly less than 3. In another, deposits in a lake in the Republic of Ireland showed a permanent 30 degree C drop in temperature had occurred in just a few years, again during the Younger Dryas period.

The climate seems to have certain stable patterns and can flip very rapidly from one to another, in which it may remain for thousands of years. This is why I personally think CO2 emissions could be so dangerous - the effects might seem slight and then a sudden and catastrophic change could take place, not necessarily to a hotter climate either.

As far as I am aware, there is no known mechanism for crustal displacement. However, in a similar vein, some time in the 1990's I read a curious book claiming that there had been no ice age and that the same evidence could be explained by a flood resulting from an impact. It was a well written and technical book, I think it might have been When the Earth Nearly Died but could be wrong on that. Getting way off topic now so I'll leave it as that.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Moon » Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:13 pm

Sunrisepony wrote:Flash frozen animals in Siberia is a very strong supportive feature of Sudden Crustal Displacement. Among other things. There is evidence out there to support crustal displacement in many instances. Think about this Japan quake that happened, it displaced the tilt of the earth's polar axis by was it 8 degrees?


Here is the article in Wackypedia on the Polar shift hypothesis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_shift_hypothesis

I do question this theory myself as I am interested in geology. While it does fit with many authors trying to explain what happened to the ancient civilization, there is very little evidence to support it. Plate tectonics is also rather new, but it has been actually proven to exist. So while the crust is moving, it is at a very slow pace.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Bob137 » Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:28 pm

On another forum is a another theory that shows the earth expanding, not plate tectonics, but that the earth started out smaller and has been growing ever since. Not sure if this guy is correct or not, but he does have a good argument. He shows how the earth expanding explains the continents growing apart, not drifting apart, and it does seem to also explain and fit in with many other catastrophy's, and changes upon the earth.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Moon » Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:31 pm

Bob137 wrote:On another forum is a another theory that shows the earth expanding, not plate tectonics, but that the earth started out smaller and has been growing ever since. Not sure if this guy is correct or not, but he does have a good argument. He shows how the earth expanding explains the continents growing apart, not drifting apart, and it does seem to also explain and fit in with many other catastrophy's, and changes upon the earth.


The continents are moving to the point where Australia will meet up with Alaska. Of course, this isn't going to happen for hundreds of millions of years, but the continental drift is a true thing.

I will have to look into the idea the Earth is expanding. Unless mass is added from some source, I don't know how this can happen.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Bob137 » Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:37 pm

Well if the mantle is expanding, then the earth has to expand with it, either that or it will blow from all the gas created, so where does the gas go, if not expanding the earth? I believe that is one of the questions and answers on that.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Moon » Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:01 pm

Bob137 wrote:Well if the mantle is expanding, then the earth has to expand with it, either that or it will blow from all the gas created, so where does the gas go, if not expanding the earth? I believe that is one of the questions and answers on that.


The gas would escape in either a volcanic outlet or a geyser like we have in Yellowstone. There are many outlets for pressurized gas to escape out of the Earth. Earthquakes are another way for the pressure to be eased.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Bob137 » Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:56 pm

Here is one thought on that idea!
Just as in plate tectonics theory, there are appealing aspects to Earth expansion theory, like the origin of continents from a uniform continental shell, but there are also profound difficulties. The fact that decades have passed without reconciliation of these two seemingly disparate scientific theories might suggest that neither is wholly correct. Perhaps ultimately the correct theory lies somewhere between the two.

and here is another!
Much of the evidence presented in support of plate
tectonics supports whole-earth decompression dynamics,
but without necessitating mantle convection/circulation or
basalt recycling. Moreover, unlike in earth expansion
theory, the timescale for earth decompression is not
constrained to the last 200 million years, the maximum
age of the current ocean floor.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Sunrisepony » Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:39 am

I think there is evidence of crustal shifts. What about Greenland, couldn't that have been Atlantis and just slipped higher when the planet tilted? How else really could world wide climatic shift with such a dramatic degree really be explained? Prior to the last polar axis shift, the world ...the whole thing was almost tropical, and at the very least Temperate. The deserts that weren't under water at the time (like Death Valley for example) were fertile grass lands when the planet was rotating fully upright. The water damage on the Great Sphinx alone proves that. And, now they're deserts. We have a geomagnetic field encompassing the earth that at one pole is positive, and the other pole "negative", they reverse fields every so often. About every 10,000 - 12,000 years. The we have the physical poles. They are nearing alignment between now and 2015. How much of it has to do with the Geomagnetic Field, Polar Axis Tilt and Crustal Displacement. It's a little beyond my field of knowledge, but I know they exist and do happen.

I read an article years ago called "Sunken Continents 'vs' Continental Drift", it ripped apart the "theory" of Plate Tectonics and Continental Drift. With a sharp knife. Here's an excerpt with link for the rest of it...

In the latter half of the 19th century, when the above passage was written, the idea of submerged continents was accepted by many prominent geologists. This continued to be the case well into the 20th century, though the idea gradually began to go out of fashion. In the mid-1960s came the plate-tectonics ‘revolution’ in the earth sciences. Plate tectonics firmly denies that large landmasses can be elevated from the ocean floor or submerged to oceanic depths.

According to plate tectonics, the earth’s outer shell, or lithosphere, is divided into a number of large, rigid, moving plates that interact at their boundaries, where they converge, diverge, or slide past one another. Such interactions are believed to be responsible for most of the seismic and volcanic activity of the earth. Plates cause mountains to rise where they push together, and continents to fracture and oceans to form where they rift apart. The continents, sitting passively on the backs of the plates, drift with them, at the rate of a few centimeters a year. At the end of the Permian, some 250 million years ago,* all the present continents are said to have been gathered together in a single supercontinent, Pangaea, consisting of two major landmasses: Laurasia in the north, and Gondwanaland in the south. Pangaea is believed to have started fragmenting in the Early Jurassic, leading to the configuration of oceans and continents observed today.

*All dates given in this article are official ‘scientific’ dates. For corresponding theosophical dates, see: Geological timescale, davidpratt.info.

It has been said that ‘A hypothesis that is appealing for its unity or simplicity acts as a filter, accepting reinforcement with ease but tending to reject evidence that does not seem to fit.’ Some proponents of plate tectonics have admitted that in the late 1960s a bandwagon atmosphere developed, and that data that did not fit into the new plate-tectonics model were not given sufficient consideration, resulting in a disturbing dogmatism. In the words of one critic, geology has become ‘a bland mixture of descriptive research and interpretive papers in which the interpretation is a facile cookbook application of plate-tectonics concepts . . . used as confidently as trigonometric functions.’1 A modern geological textbook acknowledges that ‘Geologists, like other people, are susceptible to fads’.2

V.A. Saull pointed out that no global tectonic model should ever be considered definitive, since geological and geophysical observations are nearly always open to alternative explanations. He also stated that even if plate tectonics were false, it would be difficult to refute and replace, for the following reasons: the processes supposed to be responsible for plate dynamics are rooted in regions of the earth so poorly known that it is hard to prove or disprove any particular model of them; the hard core of belief in plate tectonics is protected from direct assault by auxiliary hypotheses that are still being generated; and the plate model is so widely believed to be correct that it is difficult to get alternative interpretations published in the scientific literature.3

In the first issue of the New Concepts in Global Tectonics Newsletter, which appeared in December 1996, the editors J.M. Dickins and D.R. Choi wrote:
in the 1950s and 60s the new theory of Plate Tectonics was propounded by ‘geophysicists’ (physicists) and mainly young geologists with little experience, depth of understanding or respect for existing geology. The theory, although admittedly simplistic and with little factual basis but claiming to be all embracing, was pursued by its proponents in an aggressive, intolerant, dogmatic and sometimes unfortunately an unscrupulous fashion. Most geologists with knowledge based locally or regionally were not confident in dealing with a new global theory which swept the world and was attractive in giving Geology a prestige not equalled since the nineteenth century.

The ideological influence and strength of the Plate Tectonic Theory has swept aside much well-based data as though it never existed, inhibited many fields of investigation and resulted in the suppression or manipulation of data which does not fit the theory. In the course of time the method has become narrow, monotonous and dull: a catechism repeated too often. As new data has arisen there is a growing scepticism about the theory. (www.ncgt.org)

Plate tectonics has faced growing criticism as the number of observational anomalies has increased. It will shown below that the theory faces some fundamental – and in fact fatal – problems.


http://davidpratt.info/sunken.htm
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby mahalla2 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:57 am

Could it be a combination of all of the above and not any one factor that could cause major global changes? All these posts seem relevant to me, and any combination of these geological events could lead to a global catastrophe. Another scenario to consider might include the type of geological event that caused the "Insular Belt" to form in the Pacifc Northwest which some scientists believe also caused the Wallowa Mountains (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallowa_Mountains) to form as far away as into Eastern Oregon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insular_Belt

The Insular Belt is a physiogeological region on the north western North American coast. It consist of three major island groups and many smaller islands and stretches from southern British Columbia into Alaska and the Yukon. It represents the Late Cretaceous to Eocene accretion of what is known as the "Insular Superterrane" the North American continent.

The rocks that form the Insular Super-Terrane are allochthonous meaning they are not related to the North American continent. They consist of a series of volcanics, intrusions and sedimentary rocks from the collision of an ancient island arc called the Insular Islands.[1] The exact collision of the Insular Islands remains uncertain.

(This information is particularly interesting to me because as we all know the earthquakes connected to the "Ring of Fire" are pushing their way up towards Alaska, and as this continues to happen, my question is - Will it possibly trigger the collision of another gigantic land mass (like what took place during the formation of the Insular Belt) to suddenly happen again in the Northwest or Western U.S.?)
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Bob137 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:17 am

That is very interesting also. I was thinking, from all the different theories, it proves that there is many ideas, but not one for sure this is it, other than personal beliefs. So it may be possible that it may be a combination of these theories, not just one that fits and works in all phases of our planet from the start. I do believe that we are a race who has forgotten it's past, and is looking at the forest, but can't see the trees for the forest. I believe we have been on this planet for millions of years, have had possibly 4 advanced civilizations, and the one now is about to go through some serious changes, and come into the 5th civilization, which will take some time going through changes, to come out to that existence being of a "Golden Age", or similarity to any kind of Utopia, we can come up with, or in another terminology as a Star Trek type scenario, where as mankind will be able to actually be harmonious mostly, and travel at least our Galaxy, if not to other Galaxies, and become more than what we are, and maybe become a more Spirit based being. Anyway that is my take of things.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Moon » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:22 pm

Greenland and Antarctica are both good places which might have ancient ruins of seafaring civilizations. I am open to the idea of people settling all over the world as the climate is in constant change.

The crust displacement theory is interesting, but I think it needs much more evidence and some major backing by a few geologists. Those rock geeks know their stuff when it comes to the Earth.

I also think they could of settled on those places while they were extremely cold for study. We do it now, why wouldn't they of done it thousands of years ago?

There are many vast areas of our planet which have not been fully explored. From cities being buried thousands of years ago to lost underwater areas, we have much to look for.

It is possible if they ever find a lost Hall of Records, they might find out where to look for some of these ancient cities. One is allegedly under the Sphinx, and others are rumored to be in hidden rooms of the pyramids or underneath them.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Bob137 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:41 pm

There is also the possibility of the library at Socorro, which has not been unearthed yet.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby mahalla2 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:31 pm

Bob137 wrote:There is also the possibility of the library at Socorro, which has not been unearthed yet.


Seems to me people should take a look at both sides of the world when they try to find these ancient ruins/artifacts because duality of life was very important to ancient people including the ancient Egyptians, and their place of origin (as stated themselves) was at a place called the "O". It would make sense to find and explore within that area first if we really want to know how old this civilization truly is - 8)
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Sunrisepony » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:50 pm

Max, I think if you read the full article, you'll see there is a significant amount of evidence supporting the Crustal Displacement and pointing out some of the more substantial flaws of the Plate Tectonics/Continental Drift. But, then it could be as the others have mentioned a combination of all these.

I read an article where they already found and have started excavating the Library under the Pyramids, but are keeping it very hush hush because of the knowledge and information that they found contained in those vaults.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Bob137 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:05 pm

If they have found the Hall of Records under the pyramid, and are keeping it secret, it is a crime against all humanity!
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Polaris » Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:20 pm

Sunrisepony wrote:I think there is evidence of crustal shifts. What about Greenland, couldn't that have been Atlantis and just slipped higher when the planet tilted? How else really could world wide climatic shift with such a dramatic degree really be explained? Prior to the last polar axis shift, the world ...the whole thing was almost tropical, and at the very least Temperate. The deserts that weren't under water at the time (like Death Valley for example) were fertile grass lands when the planet was rotating fully upright. The water damage on the Great Sphinx alone proves that. And, now they're deserts. We have a geomagnetic field encompassing the earth that at one pole is positive, and the other pole "negative", they reverse fields every so often. About every 10,000 - 12,000 years. The we have the physical poles. They are nearing alignment between now and 2015. How much of it has to do with the Geomagnetic Field, Polar Axis Tilt and Crustal Displacement. It's a little beyond my field of knowledge, but I know they exist and do happen.

I read an article years ago called "Sunken Continents 'vs' Continental Drift", it ripped apart the "theory" of Plate Tectonics and Continental Drift. With a sharp knife. Here's an excerpt with link for the rest of it...

In the latter half of the 19th century, when the above passage was written, the idea of submerged continents was accepted by many prominent geologists. This continued to be the case well into the 20th century, though the idea gradually began to go out of fashion. In the mid-1960s came the plate-tectonics ‘revolution’ in the earth sciences. Plate tectonics firmly denies that large landmasses can be elevated from the ocean floor or submerged to oceanic depths.

According to plate tectonics, the earth’s outer shell, or lithosphere, is divided into a number of large, rigid, moving plates that interact at their boundaries, where they converge, diverge, or slide past one another. Such interactions are believed to be responsible for most of the seismic and volcanic activity of the earth. Plates cause mountains to rise where they push together, and continents to fracture and oceans to form where they rift apart. The continents, sitting passively on the backs of the plates, drift with them, at the rate of a few centimeters a year. At the end of the Permian, some 250 million years ago,* all the present continents are said to have been gathered together in a single supercontinent, Pangaea, consisting of two major landmasses: Laurasia in the north, and Gondwanaland in the south. Pangaea is believed to have started fragmenting in the Early Jurassic, leading to the configuration of oceans and continents observed today.

*All dates given in this article are official ‘scientific’ dates. For corresponding theosophical dates, see: Geological timescale, davidpratt.info.

It has been said that ‘A hypothesis that is appealing for its unity or simplicity acts as a filter, accepting reinforcement with ease but tending to reject evidence that does not seem to fit.’ Some proponents of plate tectonics have admitted that in the late 1960s a bandwagon atmosphere developed, and that data that did not fit into the new plate-tectonics model were not given sufficient consideration, resulting in a disturbing dogmatism. In the words of one critic, geology has become ‘a bland mixture of descriptive research and interpretive papers in which the interpretation is a facile cookbook application of plate-tectonics concepts . . . used as confidently as trigonometric functions.’1 A modern geological textbook acknowledges that ‘Geologists, like other people, are susceptible to fads’.2

V.A. Saull pointed out that no global tectonic model should ever be considered definitive, since geological and geophysical observations are nearly always open to alternative explanations. He also stated that even if plate tectonics were false, it would be difficult to refute and replace, for the following reasons: the processes supposed to be responsible for plate dynamics are rooted in regions of the earth so poorly known that it is hard to prove or disprove any particular model of them; the hard core of belief in plate tectonics is protected from direct assault by auxiliary hypotheses that are still being generated; and the plate model is so widely believed to be correct that it is difficult to get alternative interpretations published in the scientific literature.3

In the first issue of the New Concepts in Global Tectonics Newsletter, which appeared in December 1996, the editors J.M. Dickins and D.R. Choi wrote:
in the 1950s and 60s the new theory of Plate Tectonics was propounded by ‘geophysicists’ (physicists) and mainly young geologists with little experience, depth of understanding or respect for existing geology. The theory, although admittedly simplistic and with little factual basis but claiming to be all embracing, was pursued by its proponents in an aggressive, intolerant, dogmatic and sometimes unfortunately an unscrupulous fashion. Most geologists with knowledge based locally or regionally were not confident in dealing with a new global theory which swept the world and was attractive in giving Geology a prestige not equalled since the nineteenth century.

The ideological influence and strength of the Plate Tectonic Theory has swept aside much well-based data as though it never existed, inhibited many fields of investigation and resulted in the suppression or manipulation of data which does not fit the theory. In the course of time the method has become narrow, monotonous and dull: a catechism repeated too often. As new data has arisen there is a growing scepticism about the theory. (www.ncgt.org)

Plate tectonics has faced growing criticism as the number of observational anomalies has increased. It will shown below that the theory faces some fundamental – and in fact fatal – problems.


http://davidpratt.info/sunken.htm


SP, I am dismayed by the fact that you chose not the include the first paragraph in our quote...

Introduction
That worlds (also Races) are periodically destroyed by fire (volcanoes and earthquakes) and water, in turn, and renewed, is a doctrine as old as man. . . . Twice already has the face of the globe been changed by fire, and twice by water, since man appeared on it. As land needs rest and renovation, new forces, and a change for its soil, so does water. Thence arises a periodical redistribution of land and water, change of climates, etc., all brought on by geological revolution, and ending in a final change in the axis. (H.P. Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine, 2:725-6)


The only thing I have to say is that submerging continents has to do with how much H-2-0 is in liquid state vs solid.
Continental drift is irrefutable! It goes with a liquid mantle vs a solid rock (aka planets 1, 2, 4, 5, and 6), (7 I'd say is liquid)
Large sudden changes in continental height will cause global tsunamis and absolutely wipe everything off the continents - CD and plate tectonics allows for this...
Most of what follows in that quote rails against the establishment rather than a rationale in favour of their version of our planet's geological processes.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Sunrisepony » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:24 am

Bob137 wrote:If they have found the Hall of Records under the pyramid, and are keeping it secret, it is a crime against all humanity!

I agree, I seriously need to find the article that talks about this.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby half baked lasagna » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:48 am

Shifting orbits, moving countries, one day the Chinese will be able to just walk over to the United States and devour us all, so to speak. Not only are we outnumbered tremendously, but they are in better shape as a people. Ewwww.... I shudder at the mere thought....border police, WHATever!!
Supposedly the Holy Grail is hidden beneath the many impenetrable layers of the Money Pit; I believe SOMETHING is there, but it has been almost impossible to excavate that area to find out. So "they" say.....It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall around any of these scientists, militia, etc.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Moon » Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:29 pm

Please remember the rules about double posting. One can edit their post to add information or wait until someone else posts. I really don't want to start deleting them, but moderators and administrators have permission to do so.

The reality is Australia is going to be in Alaska's back yard in a few hundred million years.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby half baked lasagna » Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:14 am

Sorry about that, meant to edit and add that on.... :mrgreen:
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Moon » Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:13 pm

half baked lasagna wrote:Sorry about that, meant to edit and add that on.... :mrgreen:


I don't mind fixing it, but some moderators might not have the time to do so and can just delete it.

Last night's episode touched on the pyramids and other monuments alignments with Earth's grids. It does look like they knew where to put these pyramids long before they were built.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Sunrisepony » Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:33 pm

Here's one of the articles that mentions the Hall Of Records being found. I have to find the other ones.
The Lost History Of The Pyramids:The Underground Labyrinth Of Egypt
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/piramides/esp_piramide_23.htm

The Emerald Tablets of Toth the Atlantean
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/thot/esp_thot_1.htm

Top Ten Civilizations With Advanced Technology A very interesting article, points out the Pre-Egyptian Race was the Osirian Civilization. Which is the one I think that built the pyramids.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_historia_humanidad_3.htm
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Bob137 » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:17 pm

Thanks for the links Sunrisepony. Really good info!
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Don Morace » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:05 am

Hi Folks,Don here.To get back to the age of the pyramids,Robert Bauval brought up an interesting thought in one of the shows!"the alignment of the pyramids to the constellation Orion along with the Galactic plane dated back to 10,500 BC.Now if you check out the other monuments all over the world they seem to be aligned with constellations also!Could this have been the messages that the AA wanted to leave us??A form of dating system that once we learned of archeoastronomy would allow us to actually date these monuments accurately and come up with some truth about how old our species is!?Just a thought,Don out.......................ps.check out the Ninevah constant which is accurate to the second!! :D
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Bob137 » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:22 am

The ancients were a lot smarter than historians give them credit for. The Ninevah constant just may be the clue needed for our species to become greater than it is or was. Harmony and music of the spheres and people, and solar systems, and galaxies, and the universe, the uni-verse, or song of the universe. Now we just need to get the people of earth to harmonize.
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Re: Board Consensus on Age of Pyramids?

Postby Nikola » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:08 pm

The sphynx was looking at his brother in the sky approximately 12 000 years ago - at the vernal equinox, 21st of March - in the age of Leo! But because some people claim that the spynx is older than the pyramidsit, so it could be another precessional ago, 36 000 years ago. No one knows for sure, but it must be in some of these time points.
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