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God spoke through the burning bush random theory

Postby deep thought » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:01 pm

so i just kinda been thinking about this for a bit and just wanted some input from the fine folks here. now if im not mistaken God spoke to moses through a burning bush. i have been trying to think of how this could be actually possible. i tried thinking about maybe some misunderstood technology. but i have not been able to come up with any type of context that it could be compared to. then i began to think, is there some type of bush that when burnt would create a new level of thought, perhaps give you some ideas that we could say are "out of the box"? im having a bit of trouble explaining it the way it sounds in my head so please bare with me. god spoke through the burning bush. the Native American Church believes that they can contact their god/s through the ritualistic use of peyote. im pretty certain its a chemical reaction in the brain that opens up a new thought level. would it be far off to think that moses came across some bush that was possibly pre-burning, or that he started a fire with some random bush (to stay warm) that may have had a certain effect on the way he perceived things? personally in high school i burned a certain shrub that caused me to have some pretty wild ideas at times. not all of them great, but some of them probably could have caused some type of change if i understood the true meaning and maybe went through with it the way moses went through with what he did. im in no way trying to compare my self to moses on any level other than we have both had some wild ideas while being close to a burning bush/shrub. again just a theory. please tear it apart so i can stop thinking about it. thanks
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Re: God spoke through the burning bush random theory

Postby forgottentales » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:16 pm

The Burning bush could have been a reference to a Euphorbia: http://www.theamateursdigest.com/epoisons.htm

They burn the skin but don't burst into flame. So, perhaps an hallucination while looking through tear filled eyes. :mrgreen:
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Re: God spoke through the burning bush random theory

Postby gerhard1 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:30 am

deep thought wrote:so i just kinda been thinking about this for a bit and just wanted some input from the fine folks here. now if im not mistaken God spoke to moses through a burning bush. i have been trying to think of how this could be actually possible. i tried thinking about maybe some misunderstood technology. but i have not been able to come up with any type of context that it could be compared to. then i began to think, is there some type of bush that when burnt would create a new level of thought, perhaps give you some ideas that we could say are "out of the box"? im having a bit of trouble explaining it the way it sounds in my head so please bare with me. god spoke through the burning bush. the Native American Church believes that they can contact their god/s through the ritualistic use of peyote. im pretty certain its a chemical reaction in the brain that opens up a new thought level. would it be far off to think that moses came across some bush that was possibly pre-burning, or that he started a fire with some random bush (to stay warm) that may have had a certain effect on the way he perceived things? personally in high school i burned a certain shrub that caused me to have some pretty wild ideas at times. not all of them great, but some of them probably could have caused some type of change if i understood the true meaning and maybe went through with it the way moses went through with what he did. im in no way trying to compare my self to moses on any level other than we have both had some wild ideas while being close to a burning bush/shrub. again just a theory. please tear it apart so i can stop thinking about it. thanks

Are you saying that Moses was high and that G-d speaking to him was a drug-induced hallucination, or what?

Not intending to disparage what you are saying; just wanting a confirmation that I'm not totally out there in left field.
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Re: God spoke through the burning bush random theory

Postby deep thought » Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:24 pm

gerhard1 wrote:Are you saying that Moses was high and that G-d speaking to him was a drug-induced hallucination, or what?

Not intending to disparage what you are saying; just wanting a confirmation that I'm not totally out there in left field.


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i wouldnt use the term "high". that is a negative implication in itself. i know the rules here. if your talking about the simple act of coming into contact with or ingesting an external substance that cause some type of brain responses then yes, perhaps. almost everything we ingest is a drug if thats the case. moses didnt explain exactly how the bush spoke to him. did it physically say all this to him. was there a device or something lying inside a bush that was on fire and he heard voices telling him to set his people free? im sure he would have made it clear that the bush actually spoke to him if this were the case. god spoke through a burning bush. i would love to hear a couple more theories on how this would have been accomplished.
also i would not go as far to say this was a drug induced hallucination. if we go back to what forgotten tales said about a Euphorbia. a hallucination. what i got from what i read about them is that it would produce a rather unpleasant experience while hallucinating. burning skin, rub your eyes and they become inflamed for days. its hard for me to believe that he would receive such a positive message while going through something so horrible sounding. look up datura stramonium as well.
we as people, individuals, probably have literally thousands of ideas each day. how many of those pass by without a second thought? now how many have you had that you thought would have a huge impact on society or a people? honestly ive probably had 2 completely serious thoughts on how a certain act or message could have a large scale positive impact on civilization as a whole. how many of those two have i went through with? Zero.
Martin Luther King Jr. im sure his idea sounded pretty foolish and out there to alot of people. im am in no way saying it was. buts thats just how we as people are. there will always be someone who is going to disagree with what someone else said on any random level. there can be one subject but 1000 different ways to look at it an there will always be an opposition. but i digress. im basing this on the fact the Dr. King had an idea, and he went with it. just like moses. yes i am comparing him to moses. in a way. it all starts with an idea. and its just bugging me lately why Moses would state it the way he did.
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Re: God spoke through the burning bush random theory

Postby isitmeorwhott? » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:46 pm

:o I believe in ancient times of course they used natural plants and herbs to enlighten themselves to think freely. They could use their minds to think about God totally without the distraction of having to worry that a bunch of police at any time could kick his tent inn Interupting his meditation and beliefs. And having to go through a screwed up legal proceess of lawyers, fees and fines.And confiscation of camels and sheep. And so on. I believe back then Moses worshiped THAT way. :) Today we are told to worship God THIS way and THEIR way! :(
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Re: God spoke through the burning bush random theory

Postby deep thought » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:59 pm

isitmeorwhott? wrote::o I believe in ancient times of course they used natural plants and herbs to enlighten themselves to think freely. They could use their minds to think about God totally without the distraction of having to worry that a bunch of police at any time could kick his tent inn Interupting his meditation and beliefs. And having to go through a screwed up legal proceess of lawyers, fees and fines.And confiscation of camels and sheep. And so on. I believe back then Moses worshiped THAT way. :) Today we are told to worship God THIS way and THEIR way! :(


i personally wouldnt go as far as to say this was something moses did on a regular basis myself. he might never have had an experience like that ever again. if that happened more than once, god speaking through a burning bush, i think he again would have made it a bit more clear as to what he meant. im not saying he didnt have any other profound insights, but i dont think they came to him that way again.
i also dont think he was worried about getting his camels taken and fines. and he probably was worried about the police. if thats what you would call the people the pharaoh's sent after him. because im sure if they did catch him they would have killed him. or he would have suffered a much more creative, horrible fate.
and in this day in age it saddens me that people are still told HOW to worship. be it through birth or if its a regional preference.

also i love when anybody has anything to say good or bad about what i think. i encourage a new way to look at things. but i am in no way trying to say moses was a stoner or that he used plants to listen to god or anything of that nature. and when people try to downplay the seriousness of the issue i am trying to bring up, it takes away from the issue its self.

How did God speak to Moses through a burning bush?
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Re: God spoke through the burning bush random theory

Postby Quelquechosedautre » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:42 pm

To me, this is beyond obvious. The answer is contained in a literal reading of the scripture in the nearby passages and in the Turin Shroud.

The Turin Shroud shows that Jesus was, effectively "scanned in" and then reconstitued witht he damage to His body fixed at least 3 feet away by an "ANGEL". By converting mass to energy and energy to mass, a vast amount of heat and light would have eminated and a deafening bang as the air where Jesus is reconstituted, is suddenly occupied by His body.

Analysis of the Turin Shroud does also show that the image upon it was done by searing heat of over 1 million degrees for less than 1 millionth of a second.

The scripture surrounding Moses states that God lived in the Arc of the Covenant and that it had immense powers.

My conclusion? The bush caught fire as God was teleported down to it. Furthermore, He could not be seen as he was only 3 inches tall. Whilst laughably small, it would explain why He did drastic and devastating acts as this would have convinced Moses that he was the real thing, despite His tiny size.
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Re: God spoke through the burning bush random theory

Postby deep thought » Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:45 am

im not gonna lie. that was a bit hard to follow. so i would love to discuss it further.
you said the answer is contained in a "literal" reading. in my opinion, nothing written in any religious teaching can be taken literally. this is what causes fanaticism and close minded thinking. who's to say yours or anybodies interpretation of any religious writing or teaching is 100% how it was intended to be interpreted? well besides "him".
also not sure how the shroud of turin came into play. but i dont think any type of linen could physically survive the way the shroud has if it were hit with 1,000,000 degress for 1,000,000th of a second. not only is it incredible that that amount of heat would appear and disappear in such a short time, but that it wouldnt damage the fabric? i find it hard to digest on any level. unless that fabric was from out of this world, which i think the "test" would have proved. also im not 100% and i hate to throw a wrench in peoples religious beliefs, but i saw a program where they stated the shroud was done by a very talented artist. they recreated how it could have been done, by aging fabric and very tiny, skilled brush strokes. but this cant be taken at face value either. it was a tv program.
and moses stated god lived in the Arc of the Covenant. i find it hard to take that literally. the creator of man, earth, and the universe lived/lives in a gold box that people carried around?
the part about jesus being "scanned in" is what i found hard to follow.
and i think if "he" came he would appear larger than 3 inches tall, so he would be taken seriously. and im not completely sure how that came to be? him becoming that small that is. could you clarify how that happened? and what were some of the devastating acts he caused while 3 inches tall?
i also do not believe God would need to teleport. if there is such a thing as an ultimate god,im think he would just be where he needed/wanted to be.
these are all just opinions of course. and i dont mean to come off as harsh but i believe you should be able to defend your opinions if they are to be taken seriously. anyone can just throw some random theory out, but you must be able to explain it to the foolhardy such as myself.

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here is the link for the 2 inch tall god.
http://legendarytimes.com/forum/viewtop ... god#p44909

also a good rebuttal would have been, "if god spoke through a burning bush why would he show up later and physically give moses the 10 comandments?" i already have a theory for that too but wondering if anyone else has thoughts on it?
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Bush Resisting Fire

Postby damned thing » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:13 am

The expression of bush resisting fire, more properly speaking a thorny bush resisting fire may be an argot picture. Argot is used to hide a criminal act used by criminals. If a passer-by drops something on the ground and hears them talking about it, they escape detection. However, as weird the world can be, argot may be used by the victims/witnesses of crimes. In case the criminals are in control, the subjects have to hide the libel until the judgement day. "They must not know we know it."

Willpower and desire are often pictured by fire, fire of love for example but it can as well be gold lust. Burning desire. So the deity, being a body of fire, is in the bush but the bush isn't burned. Seeing that, Moses curiously approaches. This means to me Moses knew what crime may happen to him but he also thought "Not me!" He was quite confident. So curiosity really means courage here. He dared to approach because he believed he can resist the charisma of the deity. Somehow he could not and the act happened.
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Re: God spoke through the burning bush random theory

Postby deep thought » Sun May 20, 2012 4:12 am

im back. life moves quick and it'll pass you by if you don't stop and take time to smell the roses. enjoy life.

i dont know about it being a metaphor for moses being or about to be robbed either. though it is plausible. i take life lessons from everyday events that change and shape how i live my life and think. im sure many people do. i got hustled once by a fast talking salesman. i dont anymore. i usually ask questions until they realize what im doing and give up.
though i did read how moses might have seen the fire from afar. so maybe it was already burning perhaps? a deity of some sort hiding in there to get his attention and when he gets closer things are explained to him. very plausible. i like that.

in my last post i asked "if god spoke through a burning bush why would he show up later and physically give moses the 10 commandments?" to me its simple. it was a test. you wouldn't give the reins of a fortune 500 company to some guy off the street you don't know anything about. you want to make sure he can at least deliver the mail first, right? he got his message. he completed the mission. the "gods" say lets see if he can get them to follow these rules for a good morale life. he gives them the commandments. they wander the desert living righteously and then they get to go to the promised land. i think moses let that stuff go to his head and thats why he didnt get to go. there is so much more to this i could explain. or maybe someone could explain more to me.
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Re: God spoke through the burning bush random theory

Postby freethinker2706 » Wed May 23, 2012 12:51 pm

Think about it. In Moses' time, only 4 things produced light: sun, moon, stars, and fire. If it glowed, and it was not one of the first three, it had to be afire. Also, Moses glowed for days after he returned from his meeting with YHWH in which he received the ten commandments. The energy source YHWH used glowed. He put a communications device under and behind a bush to conceal it because this energy source gave off something like static electricity. It glowed, so, to Moses, it had to be burning (but it was not consumed). YHWH didn't want Moses to touch the device or even get too close to it because the shock from the device could easily kill him. Moses wore sandals with dry leather soles (a real good insulator). He told Moses to take off his shoes because this static energy could build up on him to the point that, when he touched a rock or a tree, the discharge could severely injure or even kill him. Hence, "take off your shoes, this is Holy ground". Any other ploy and Moses curiosity would have made him likely to investigate too closely. By being barefooted, he was grounded and the charge couldn't build up in him. Remember the people of Moses day had the knowledge and the emotional maturity of today's seven year old. If you didn't want a child to be injured by something, you would use fear as the weapon of choice to keep him/her away.
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Re: God spoke through the burning bush random theory

Postby racrou3 » Mon May 28, 2012 8:05 pm

Two ideas that I always wonder about that can be applied here. Was the fire real or could it have been a hollogram beamed down? Or is God on a diffrent plane and Moses saw the bush on our plane combined with the image of fire from another plane?or door number 3, God is omnipresent and created and supports natural and physical laws, so couldnt he have them behave contrarily in supporting the life in plant and have the fire burn at the smae time? This is the coolest display of power and my favorite explanation. Its like were Moses and Elijah holograms on the mountain with Jesus or did the slide in from another plane? Not sure if there is another explanation. And is the light that people see when they die really a wormhole opening taking us to heaven somewhere else in the universe? Might be too many questions for one blog?
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Re: God spoke through the burning bush random theory

Postby deep thought » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:07 pm

that is also plausible to me. two different planes or dimensions merging. or a hologram. nice, that will give me something to think about for a while. and the hologram theory for the transfiguration, brilliant. kudos
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Re: God spoke through the burning bush random theory

Postby phoenix » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:43 pm

The burning torn bush (and other communication devices)

Not very much is written about this myth in the Bible. The text that gives away the most about this event is the work called The legends of the Jews, and it is a chapter in this book i am going to use when I am doing an attempt to interpret it (see further down).

But before we start to analyze this myth, let’s take a moment and backtrack a bit to find out a little more about what was leading Moses to have this communication.
When Moses had to flee Egypt, Moses spent about 40 years in Ethiopia and thereafter he lived about 7 years with the Midianite named Rouel (also called Jethro) . Jethro became Moses’s father in law as Moses married his daughter Zipporah while he stayed there.
It was not a coincident that led Moses to the land of the Midianites, because the Midianites were the children of Abrahams marriage with Keturah . Moses and the Midianites were thus related.

The Midianites lived in the Jordanian part of the Sinai desert and Petra and Midian was thus one of their main cities at that time. Jethro’s brother Rekem was actually the king of Petra at this time. The alien colonist base at Mount Horeb was also in this area, and this was probably the main reason that Moses took refuge there.
When Moses eventually left Jethro, it was not only because the king of Egypt had just died. The period of 400 years that forced the Hebrews to stay in Egypt was according to their alien mentors about to expire, and Moses was therefore told to go to the alien base at Mount Horeb for consultations about the upcoming exodus. This was the story and the situation, prior to the myth about the burning torn bush.

So how did the aliens send messages to instruct Moses. When one reads the legends of the jews it turns out that not only Moses but also his brother Aaron seems to have been equipped with some sort of mobile alien communication device as we can read:

“The Divine voice heard by Moses in Midian telling him to return to his brethren in Egypt fell at the same time upon the ear of Aaron, dwelling in Egypt, and it bade him "go into the wilderness to meet Moses." God speaketh marvellously with His voice, and therefore the same revelation could be understood one way in Midian and another way in Egypt.”

"On the second day of the third month, Moses received word form God to betake himself to Mount Sinai, for without this direct summons he would not have gone there. This time, as at all times, when God desired to speak with Moses, He twice called him by name, and after he had answered, "Here I am," God's revelation to him followed. When Moses had been carried to God in a cloud, which was always ready to bear him to God and the restore him to men."

Even though the Bible gives us an impression that Moses had his encounter with the so called burning bush in the wilderness , it is probably more logical that Moses had his communication with the alien mentors inside their base at Mount Horeb.

So why have the author of this story packed this communication between the aliens and Moses into this colorful myth? Why has he described the communication device as a burning torn bush? I believe the answer to this is simple. The author (as often happens in the Bible story) did not fully understand how Moses could communicate with the gods. They did not knew how communication through the air could be done. Instead they described the communication as best they could using whatever come in handy.

There also seems to be a religious aspect to all this. It was only prophets that could communicate with the aliens, because it was only they who was equipped with communication devices . The communication with the aliens was always overwhelmed with secrecy and religious mysticism. This was probably the intension, as the wanted the common peoples respect. To interpret these stories, and get the essence of the story, it is therefore always important to strip the stories.

Having done that, it is therefore my belief that Moses was sent for, and asked to go to the alien base at Mount Horeb using a mobile communication device. Once he arrived there, he went into a meeting with his alien mentors at the base. The communication that took place was between Moses (on earth) and between the aliens aboard a spaceship orbiting earth.The kind of communication device they used is unclear as the description of it it is hidden in a burning torn bush story. It seems however to me that they were using equipment that allowed transmission of holographic images , or they might just have transmitted live images using computer monitors. The bright lights from either of those solutions would explain the “burning” sensation.

At the end of the burning torn bush communication, we learn that Moses are instructed to stand by so he can be picked up and brought aboard the alien spaceship for further consultations and planning. For those who are interested in how these meetings went, they can still read about it in the legends of the jews.

Here are my analyzes of the story (from the Legends of the jews):

"When Moses drew near to Mount Horeb, he was aware at once that it was a holy place, for he noticed that passing birds did not alight upon it. At his approach the mountain began to move, as though to go forward and meet him, and it settled back into quietude only when his foot rested upon it."

I interpret the above text, that passing birds was kept away from the base by some sort hi-tech devices. It pretty much seems like these aliens did what modern airports do today. They scare away the bird because they are a risk for the plains. When Moses say the mountains began to move forward to meet him, it looks to me that the gates to the base was opened by some remote device and triggered a closing mechanism when he was inside and stepped on a particular stone.

"The first thing Moses noticed was the wonderful burning bush, the upper part of which was a blazing flame, neither consuming the bush, nor preventing it from bearing blossoms as it burnt, for the celestial fire has three peculiar qualities: it produces blossoms, it does not consume the object around which it plays, and it is black of color."

The above text clearly makes an attempt to explain the communication device. The upper part of it is described as a blazing fire that did not consume or harm objects that it came in contact with. Could this be a holographic image that the authors of these texts thought was some sort of flames, or could it be some sort of large monitor showing live pictures which seemed in their eyes to be like blazing flames . The black color that is mentioned here, could perhaps be the black framework of the monitor ? The blossoms that was produced could simply be that the images came in nice colors.

"The fire that Moses saw in the bush was the appearance of the angel Michael, who had descended as the forerunner of the Shekinah herself to come down presently. It was the wish of God to hold converse with Moses, who, however, was not inclined to permit any interruption of the work under his charge. Therefore God startled him with the wonderful phenomenon of the burning thorn-bush. That brought Moses to a stop, and then God spoke with him. Finally, in order to give Moses an illustration of His modesty, God descended from the exalted heavens and spake to him from a lowly thorn-bush instead of the summit of a lofty mountain or the top of a stately cedar tree."

This texts seems to back up my interpretation that the blazing flames that they saw from this communication device was not actually flames, but rather bright lighted images from the monitor that distributed the live images. It clearly states that the image of the alien Michael actually was in the middle of the burning bush. This also means that it was not the alien leader himself that spoke to Moses, but rather the tutelary alien of Israel ( Michael) who spoke to Moses. Also note that it was also clearly the aliens intension to impress Moses and give him a demostration of their power.

"The vision of the burning bush appeared to Moses alone; the other shepherds with him saw nothing of it. He took five steps in the direction of the bush, to view it at close range, and when God beheld the countenance of Moses distorted by grief and anxiety over Israel's suffering, He spake, "This one is worthy of the office of pasturing My people."

In the above text, the word vision is used. The word vision is a very common word in those ancient texts and the authors who did not understand what was going on are often explaining these hi-tech communications between the aliens and mankind, by assosiating them with dreams (hence dream visons). If Moses brought somebody along , they were probably not allowed to enter the base itself.

"Moses was still a novice in prophecy, therefore God said to Himself, "If I reveal Myself to him in loud tones, I shall alarm him, but if I reveal Myself with a subdued voice, he will hold prophecy in low esteem," whereupon he addressed him in his father Amram's voice. Moses was overjoyed to hear his father speak, for it gave him the assurance that. he was still alive. The voice called his name twice, and he answered, "Here am I! What is my father's wish?" God replied, saying, "I am not thy father. I but desired to refrain from terrifying thee, therefore I spoke with thy father's voice. I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." These words rejoiced Moses greatly, for not only was his father Amram's name pronounced in the same breath with the names of the three Patriarchs, but it came before theirs, as though he ranked higher than they."

It seems (from the above text) , that proper care was taken not to make Moses afraid. After all a Hi- tech communication device with live audio and images out of nowhere must have been quite a terrifying event at that time. Also note that Moses responds to the transmission by calling out “here I am” . Several other such communications between the aliens and human beings are describing in various other texts the same way. Also note that the act of prophecy here are given the meaning “A person that could communicate with the aliens”.

"Moses said not a word. In silent reverence before the Divine vision he covered his face, and when God disclosed the mission with which He charged him, of bringing the Israelites forth from the land of Egypt, he answered with humility, "Who am I, that I should go unto Pharaoh, and bring forth the children of Israel out of Egypt?" Thereupon spake God, "Moses, thou art meek, and I will reward thee for thy modesty. I will deliver the whole land of Egypt into thine hand, and, besides, I will let thee ascend unto the throne of My glory, and look upon all the angels of the heavens."

Moses is clearly puzzled and afraid by this devine vision. He covers his face and answer with humility. At the end of the meeting , Moses is told to stand by in the base to be picked up and brought to heaven to discuss further details with the alien leaders (face to face meetings).For those of you who want to know what happened there , and what was being further discussed. It is all described in the legends of the jews.

Besides various handheld or mobile communication devices , there were also another famous communication device that was given to the jews in these days. This communication device has since gone under the name “The ark of the covenant”. While Moses got it from the aliens in the Sinai desert , he kept it in a separate tent called the tabernacle of the revelation. Only Moses, Aaron and Miriam was allowed access to it.

“As the people had brought much more material than was necessary for the Tabernacle, Moses erected a second Tabernacle outside the encampment on the spot where God had been accustomed to reveal Himself to him, and this "Tabernacle of revelation" was in all details like the original sanctuary in the camp.”

Before Moses was given the ark of covenant which seems to have been a pretty advanced communication device, he was equipped with only a hndheld (mobile) device . We can read about the upgrade here:

“This day marks an important change in the intercourse between God and Moses. Before this, the voice of God would strike Moses' ear as if conducted through a tube, and on such an occasion the outer would recognized only through Moses' reddened face that he was receiving a revelation; now, at the consecration of the sanctuary, this was changed. For when, on this day, he entered the sanctuary, a sweet, pleasant and lovely voice rang out toward him, whereupon he said: "I will hear what God the Lord will speak."

Here are some of the description of it.

"On the Ark were the Cherubim with their faces of boys and their wings. Their number was two, corresponding to the two tables, and to the two sacred names of God, Adonai and Elohim, which characterized Him as benevolent and as powerful. The face of each Cherub measured one span, and the wings extended each ten spans, making twenty-two spans in all (about 320 cm) , corresponding to the twenty-two letters of the Hebrew alphabet. It was "from between the two Cherubim" that God communed with Moses, for the Shekinah never wholly descended to earth any more than any mortal ever quite mounted into the heaven, even Moses and Elijah stood a slight distance from heaven; for, "The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's: but the earth hath He given to the children of men." Therefore God chose the Cherubim that were ten spans above the earth as the place where the Shekinah betook itself to commune with Moses. The heads of the Cherubim were slightly turned back, like that of a scholar bidding his master farewell; but as a token of God's delight in His people Israel, the faces of the Cherubim, by a miracle, "looked one to another" whenever Israel were devoted to their Lord, yea, even clasped one another like a loving couple. During the festivals of the pilgrimage the priest used to raise the curtain from the Holy of Holies to show the pilgrims how much their God loved them as they could see in the embrace of the two Cherubim."

"Moses in his humility did not dare to enter the Tabernacle, so that God had to summon him to enter. Moses, however, could not enter the sanctuary while a cloud was upon it, this being a sign "that the demons held sway," but waited until the cloud had moved on. The voice that called Moses came from heaven in the form of a tube of fire and rested over the two Cherubim, whence Moses perceived its sound. This voice was a powerful as at the revelation at Sinai when the souls of all Israel escaped in terror, still it was audible to none but Moses. Not even the angels heard it, for the words of God were destined exclusively for Moses. Aaron, too, with the exception of three cases in which God revealed Himself to him, never received His commands except through the communications of Moses. God would call Moses twice caressingly words by name, and when he had answered, "Here am I," God's words were revealed to him, and every commandment as a special revelation. God always allowed a pause to take place between the different laws to be imparted, that Moses might have time rightly to grasp what was told him."

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