Were did Jesus Christ go when the tomb was found empty.

[Jimmy7070]

I have heard and read different opinions on Jesus Christ and were he disappeared to.

I have read that he was removed from the tomb as he was not dead, only drugged from his drink on the cross. When he was taken down from the cross he was never Declared Dead was he??? Then when they stuffed him in the tomb he sure had a lot of people supposedly taking care of him so if they came in and nursed him back with some water or what ever, closed up the tomb to make it look good to some eyeballing it, then later crept back, rolled back the stone and took him out quite awake and walking fast or riding on a donkey.

I have a understanding that he went to Turkey and lived to be about 86 and died and was buried there. I have also read that he went to India and lived and died there at about the same age. A few years back some English,UK people, done a story up on him and it was put on TV but it disappeared quite quickly and that was on the History Channel. I have tried to locate it but have had no luck so if anyone knows the story please let me know as I would like to pick the tape up.

So regardless of were he went who went with him?? Some people had to get him out of the tomb and I am sure they did not sit around waiting to long to get on the road to speak. I have never read, heard of who could have parted the country with him but if some good sleuth could work up who were the last people to be with him they might find that they disappeared with him and not ever seen again.

I just don't believe the hog wash story of him ascending to the heavens.
Jimmy

[Fetapro]

Thoughts on Christs death:
Several Roman soldiers were assigned to watch each of the persons die on the crosses. This was their orders, no one was to be taken down without dying. These men were harden soldiers who had seen many men die in battle. They knew how to determine if a person was dead. They would have been killed by their commanders if they let anyone come down off of a cross alive. This rule was the same for everyone, not just Christ. Therefore it is logical to believe that Christ was dead when his body was taken off of the cross. If he were not then the officer in charge of the detail would have put the roman soldiers up in Christ place and made them die on the cross. This punishment was so dreadful that no Roman Soldier would risk it.
Therefore it is logical to believe that Christ was as dead when his body was taken down and put in the tomb.

[lunarwing]

When he was taken down from the cross he was never Declared Dead was he???

Considering the damage that this individual had inflicted on him. Any coroner that has "read the file" of wounds.... or examine the shroud... has said this individual would have died from the battery alone, not including a massive piercing of a roman spear or pike up through the abdominal cavity and on up into the heart or lung.

Do not take the point of being "rivited" to a wooden beam lightly either. The very act of hanging in such a manner induces a very slow affixation.

And lets not forget beaten to a plup with a roman flagrim, a handle with three straps... each with a little metal barbell tied to the end. This "whip" leaves a very disticntive bruise on a body. He was flagrimed over a 120 times. Times that by the three stricks per hit.... 360 bruises....

The crown of thorns would not have killed him... wasn't ment to. This was a act of mockery. But who would want several bands of thorn bush wrapped around their head and the thorns pushed into their skin?

He carried and dragged a 2 or 3 hundred pound horizontal cross beam across his shoulders down many blocks of the city, so the politicians could parade him in front of the people to let them know that this could happen to them.... so they better behave and not be like this individual.

The spikes driven through his wrists and ankles.....

This individual died an extremely vicious death. Like the car wreck.... without the car.

Why?

Politics....

What he had to say wasn't bad... I think everyone now can agree to that. But back then... it was very bad.... for the regions roman governors and hebrew church elders...... both are politicians.

As far as what happened between the time he died and they put him in the tomb.... and when Mary discovered the stone rolled back that next morning.... I have my own opinion....

Taking in the two cloths involved in those few hours of entombment... cloths that went two different historical paths from the eastern Med to Europe.... there was something like a burst of energy of some sort left an image on the death shroud.

I would wonder if one has a "transporter" or some "beaming technology" and you beamed this individual from in his death shroud.... on up to "sick-bay" in a planetary ship for emercency surgery, and I am assuming that if they can beam, own and operate their very own starship.... they probably could have advanced ER and save or resusitate Jesus.

Could this process of beaming, thus passing one through the death shroud, leave a image of the one being transported?

[Serene]

LW - I thought the shroud of Turin was pretty much confirmed as a fake?

[Jeff Sheets]

There are poisons that simulate death temporarily. Wasn't he given a drink from a sponge (gall) just before he "died"?

[truthseeker]

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[lunarwing]

LW - I thought the shroud of Turin was pretty much confirmed as a fake?

Not at all...

The only "negative" result was the carbon dating test.... the hundred other tests provided more than enough evidence that it is what it is said to be. The naysayers don't tell you this.

The carbon test is ineffective due to the shroud having been through two fires in it's past. The naysayers don't bother mentioning that fact either.

There are poisons that simulate death temporarily. Wasn't he given a drink from a sponge (gall) just before he "died"?

Jeff... my reason for the lengthy post above describing the severity of injuries was to dispell the "special seditive theory". He died of his injuries... crusafiction, dehyderation, afixiation.... stabbed. His friends did supposedly sponge water to his mouth in those last suffering hours but that is all it was. Even if Jesus woke up at some later time... his injuries were just too severe to function as is described when he appeared to his friends later.... and his departure into the sky in a "cloud" or craft after that.

A more interesting aspect to this story is the man who owned the tomb that was conveinately donated. Was there something special about this tomb... was it preped with something special prior to Jesus' entombment?

[goldenstar]

I believe what Lunarwing says. Jesus did die on the cross, and he ascended by way of which we don't really know.

[Moon]

The possibility that Jesus survived the crucifixion is a topic of several books. Muslims also believe Jesus did not die on the cross (someone else took his place).

The thinking is that Mary Magdalene used a drug when she wiped Jesus' face with a sponge into making them think he had died. Some evidence to back it up:

1. Death took place really quickly. Typically a person took days, even weeks to die this very painful death.

2. Roman guards would break the legs of a person being crucified so they would suffocate and have a quick death. They did not do this to Jesus.

3. They also took Jesus down from the cross after he died. The custom was to have them stay up for a long period of time to show others the penalties.

Michael Baigent has researched this topic and has written a number of books about it. Other authors have too, and they did a meticulous job of researching ancient Hebrew customs and other information.

My thoughts are that Jesus went to India and also back to Egypt to teach more people on Enlightenment. He also was a father to children, who went on to become the Merovingian bloodlines.


BTW, the carbon dating of the Shroud of Turin was dismissed after finding out it was coated with a protective sealant several hundred years ago. That caused the dating of the artifact to be recent because of those chemicals. So far, the Duke of Savoy has not given permission to cut another part off the Shroud for testing.

[Fetapro]

Lunarwing:
I was thinking about the shroud. I first read about it twenty years ago.
What if?
When Christ's body was in the tomb what if it converted from matter to energy much like the transporter on Star Trek. Wouldn't this leave an image like the one on the shroud?

[lunarwing]

Lunarwing:
I was thinking about the shroud. I first read about it twenty years ago.
What if?
When Christ's body was in the tomb what if it converted from matter to energy much like the transporter on Star Trek. Wouldn't this leave an image like the one on the shroud?

That is exactly what I am trying to advocate! Could the process of a form of transporter cause the image?

My thing is.... the smaller face cloth has a trackable history back to 600 AD..... it's blood stains match the blood stains on the shroud like a finger print. So if we know we can't get an accurate Carbon 14 dating.... that smaller cloth should confirm that the Carbon test of 1200 AD is incorrect... and the shroud can at least be dated the same as the smaller facial cloth.

The image on the shroud has been known about a lot longer than the famous 19th century pictures and negatives. There are many very early paintings that have that same strange elongated face of Christ that is seen on the shroud. These painting also date farther back than 1200 AD.

Here's a bit on that "coating" thing and the Carbon 14 dating.... tthis is just a bit of the whole artical.
Carbon 14 – An Insurmountable Objection?
In 1988 three laboratories received samples of the Shroud of Turin to be tested with the carbon 14 dating method. The results indicated that the Shroud was a medieval artifact and its date was set at 1325 +/- 65 years. This date is generally considered to be about 95 percent reliable. Thus for many researchers the issue is settled: the Shroud is a medieval relic.

But why isn't everyone convinced? Why do a number of researchers contend that this date may be in error? The chief reason for skepticism concerns the nature and quality of the samples tested. John McRay, a respected scholar and archaeologist, notes that "there is a high probability of sample contamination" which can undermine the carbon 14 dating method.{23} Other scholars have offered a number of reasons why such sample contamination may have affected the dating of the Shroud.

For instance, Kenneth Stevenson notes that the samples were taken from an area of the Shroud just "two to three centimeters from a repair site due to the 1532 fire."{24} Two potential problems result from this. First, what if the sample was actually part of a repair site? If this happened a medieval date would be expected, for that was when the repair was made. Second, carbon molecules from the Shroud's silver casing may have altered the cloth's carbon content by becoming mixed with the cloth during the fire. "By not checking out these factors and including them as part of the dating equation, the labs left themselves open for a faulty date".{25}

Another researcher, Dr. Leoncio Garza-Valdes, has discovered a bacterium which produces a clear "bioplastic" coating on many ancient objects. When he studied samples of the Shroud, he found them to be "covered by the bioplastic coating . . . and by many colonies of fungi."{26} Additionally, Dr. Garza-Valdes claims that hydrochloric acid and sodium hydroxide, the standard cleansing agents used on ancient artifacts, do not remove this bioplastic coating. If he's right, and the Shroud sample included additional carbon 14 atoms from contamination material, a medieval date for the Shroud might be misleadingly young.

Of course, none of this proves that a medieval date for the Shroud is incorrect. Still, it is worth remembering a statement by Dr. Willy Wolfi, a researcher at one of the labs that dated the Shroud: "The C-14 method is not immune to grossly inaccurate dating when non-apparent problems exist in samples from the field. The existence of significant indeterminate errors occurs frequently."{27} Given such a possibility in the case of the Shroud, the need for further testing seems essential.

[angeloneastralseed]

Oooooooo very interesting reading here people! Keep it up, I'm a sponge right now. (I'd have to say that this is my fave emoticon)

Fetapro wrote:
Lunarwing:
I was thinking about the shroud. I first read about it twenty years ago.
What if?
When Christ's body was in the tomb what if it converted from matter to energy much like the transporter on Star Trek. Wouldn't this leave an image like the one on the shroud?


That is exactly what I am trying to advocate! Could the process of a form of transporter cause the image?

[thesaint]

Lunarwing:
I was thinking about the shroud. I first read about it twenty years ago.
What if?
When Christ's body was in the tomb what if it converted from matter to energy much like the transporter on Star Trek. Wouldn't this leave an image like the one on the shroud?

scientists studying the shroud have said there is no pigments in to the cloth fibers and the fibers chemical structure have been changed which altered their color to produce the image. there best guess was some form of radiation that caused the image. So I would also believe the body was beamed up.

[Misplaced]

No hog wash. He simply went to see his Father. It was a dark and painful journey, but, left light in its wake. light for all man to see...

Enjoy the light.......

[CrackedCat]

My newfound belief of Christ and His life and death goes like this.

Mary is abducted by an alien race and impregnated. Since most abductees today can have absolutely no recollection of the experience, this seems plausible. And, since their technology is obviously far more advanced then we are today, she could have kept her virginity intact and no one would be the wiser. She was most likely impregnated with an someone who was part alien (or all alien for that matter!), but who also would have a direct connection to the Creator of All.

He then spends His adulthood basically turning the Old Testament inside-out and preaching the opposite of what god (I lowercase god here because I do not believe the god of the OT was indeed a kind and loving god, but instead perhaps AA's who had an agenda that we know nothing about) had to do in the Old Testament. There in the OT we are told to stone people to death (unforgiveness- Christ taught the opposite), kill our enemies (rather than love our enemies as He taught), rape the women (rather than being responsible for their every tear as He taught) and so on.

Christ was hung on the cross and died, much like anyone would have in that same situation. When He died, the 'mother ship' (let's just say) made the thunders and lightening and made the sun seemingly disappear, probably for good theatrics.

He was taken down, brought to the tomb and enclosed in it with a rock that took several men to move. When the women came back to dress Him for His actual burial, He was gone.

The aliens came, lifted the rock with the same technology that they used while making the pyramids and other rock formations, which could be why the Romans guards did not see or hear much more than a loud 'crack' and He was abducted to 'heaven' (the mother ship) where He was cared for and brought back to life. Perhaps His alien blood kept Him alive enough in a way that we as humans could not detect, even today.

While up in the 'mother ship' He comes down as a spirit to the disciples. He tells them not to touch Him because He has not ascended yet. Could this be because if they went to touch Him the image of Him would be distorted or destroyed? Perhaps the image they saw wasn't Him per-se, but maybe a holograph of some sort of Him projecting Himself to them as an image, a spirit who had yet to ascend to heaven?

He then descends to earth again, whole, healed and seemingly very much alive. They are able to touch Him again, as Thomas needed to do to believe, and He eats with them. He then is transferred back to the ship where He may still be residing until the time when He is to return.

I think too, the AA's of the OT had an agenda, and therefore, gave the humans most of the stories we find in it today. They knew how Christ was to come about because they wrote it (or inspired it), and because of this, the bible became their script for the play of The Savior coming to earth. Or gave the benevolent aliens a script to follow. (I really haven't figured any of that out yet!) After all, humans would need it to play out just like the Bible said it would in order for them to believe it, and indeed, so far it has.

The whole idea of a ship carrying Him off, or sending down angels makes sense to me because the pictures and descriptions we see of these events all seem to have a heavenly 'light' from the skies holding the being within that light, or the people (like Mary) have halos, or some sort of heavenly light surrounding them. Could it be that the light holding the angels in space above the humans or the halos have been some sort of transport device????

Anyway, I am still sort of new to all this, but so far, this theory makes the most sense to me. I do believe Christ was sent here to redirect us, to guide us to righteous living in a way that would show us our potential as humans (perhaps with alien blood!). He came to make things right... to show us the way (not just in Christian thought, but other religions as well). I believe Christ was connected to the Creator of All in a way we can only dream of, yet He was here to teach us how to gain that sort of relationship with the Creator.

Perhaps there is no heaven, as Christ said NO MAN is in heaven. Perhaps the heaven will be when He returns, or when mankind ascends to that same level He was on and the world will live in the harmony and love that He spoke of. Either way, I do believe He is still around, watching and waiting for that moment to return to help us once again.

combined small thread into this one, no editing has been done

And as for the Shroud, I believe it had to do with the transporting of Christ to their ship. It makes the most sense to me, especially because science today cannot figure it out.

[Moon]

While I have other thoughts on what happened, this is a well thought out theory, crackedcat.

I really enjoyed reading it.

[angeloneastralseed]

When Mary Magdalene went to see his body and he was not there, he visited in spirit, he states in ST. John 20:17 "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father........." He visited the disciples a few times in various places since then, for more than 8 days. So my guess is his spirit wandered for a while. It wasn't until Acts when he ascended - Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him our of their sight. "

[CrackedCat]

While I have other thoughts on what happened, this is a well thought out theory, crackedcat.

I really enjoyed reading it.

*does a little bow* Thank you.

I came from a family of people who are psychic and into the paranormal and I was taught that THAT was normal. I then married a devout Lutheran who pretty much made me forsake that part of me and my family. From the age of 19 until about 38, I was a good bible-believing Christian. Then I became a full-blown bible-thumping evangelistic "you-have-to-believe-like-I-do-or-go-to-hell' kind of Christian . It's only been in the past 2 or 3 years that I have begun to fall back to my roots and rethink my position on God, the Bible, and all things in between.

Watching the Ancient Aliens show has helped me progress quickly. Seeing all of the evidence, hearing the stories, doing my own research, has led me to believe in things that actually make complete and utter sense now. Even the bible, when you look at it through AA eyes... makes complete sense now! To me anyway! LOL

I have always believed there are aliens and that they interact with us on various levels. What was hard was trying to put that together with my Christian beliefs. What I have learned is that I can still believe in the goodness and love and forgiveness and righteous living Christ promoted, even believe He IS God... and still see the bible from an AA point of view. Mainly because I believe Jesus is of the race of beings who came to help and nurture us along. Connecting the two at first was difficult but once I opened my eyes a little it became very easy.

I will probably change my ideas a million times before it's all said and done. For right now, this is what I think and right now, it makes the most sense to me.

[Moon]

Thank you for sharing a little bit about your past experiences. While I am a Pagan, I also believe there is an All Powerful Creative force inside and outside of this Universe and others. I think the ancient Egyptians knew a lot about this force and referred to it by many different names. The other Gods and Goddesses were helpers, just like the Angels are in Christianity. When Akhenaten (aka Moses) took his followers over to Israel, they took his monotheism with them, and this started Judaism and its offshoots.

It does sadden me that so many religious belief systems and dogma do not allow for learning about the others out there. It is up to each one of us to find a path we are content with and follow it.

All roads do lead to Rome.

[CrackedCat]

I agree Max. We all need to find our own paths. I do believe that ultimately, we will all end up at the same place.

I don't think I believe in the biblical "Almighty Father". (I really don't know what to believe at this point). What I feel in my heart is this... there IS a Spiritual Being, a Creator of All, who is bigger than any of can fathom. He/She is full of loving, white energy, full of goodness and love. I believe He/She may be found in the Bible, but also in the Hindu cultures, the Buddhist cultures, the Mayans, the American Indians, etc.

I am going to start a thread on my confusion...lol Maybe some others out there feel it too, and it would be nice to know I am not alone!

You are a pagan, Max? Can you go into further detail??? I think I will message you (if that's ok) about it.

[Moon]

I responded to your pm and also responded on the Paganism in the holidays thread. Basically, I believe in the Mother Goddess (Isis) and Earth Goddess (Terra). The Creator of All Things takes on a feminine form as women are the ones who give birth and create life for the most part.

I also do unto others as I would have them do unto me, or the Golden Rule.

[CrackedCat]

I responded to your pm and also responded on the Paganism in the holidays thread. Basically, I believe in the Mother Goddess (Isis) and Earth Goddess (Terra). The Creator of All Things takes on a feminine form as women are the ones who give birth and create life for the most part.

I also do unto others as I would have them do unto me, or the Golden Rule.

Got it and thanks!

I think this is the way I am leaning towards... it seems to be the path that I am on anyway!

[Moon]

Just remember, All Roads Lead to Rome. That is true with spirituality as well.

[Majeston]

Lunarwing:
I was thinking about the shroud. I first read about it twenty years ago.
What if?
When Christ's body was in the tomb what if it converted from matter to energy much like the transporter on Star Trek. Wouldn't this leave an image like the one on the shroud?

Close my friends- this is what actually happened.--


At two forty-five Sunday morning, the Paradise incarnation commission, consisting of seven unidentified Paradise personalities, arrived on the scene and immediately deployed themselves about the tomb. At ten minutes before three, intense vibrations of commingled material and morontia activities began to issue from Joseph's new tomb, and at two minutes past three o'clock, this Sunday morning, April 9, A.D. 30, the resurrected morontia form and personality of Jesus of Nazareth came forth from the tomb.

189:1.2 After the resurrected Jesus emerged from his burial tomb, the body of flesh in which he had lived and wrought on earth for almost thirty-six years was still lying there in the sepulchre niche, undisturbed and wrapped in the linen sheet, just as it had been laid to rest by Joseph and his associates on Friday afternoon. Neither was the stone before the entrance of the tomb in any way disturbed; the seal of Pilate was still unbroken; the soldiers were still on guard. The temple guards had been on continuous duty; the Roman guard had been changed at midnight. None of these watchers suspected that the object of their vigil had risen to a new and higher form of existence, and that the body which they were guarding was now a discarded outer covering which had no further connection with the delivered and resurrected morontia personality of Jesus.

189:1.3 Mankind is slow to perceive that, in all that is personal, matter is the skeleton of ..........
...........
>>>>>>>>>>> At ten minutes past three o'clock, as the resurrected Jesus fraternized with the assembled morontia personalities from the seven mansion worlds of Satania, the chief of archangels—the angels of the resurrection—approached Gabriel and asked for the mortal body of Jesus. Said the chief of the archangels: "We may not participate in the morontia resurrection of the bestowal experience of Michael our sovereign, but we would have his mortal remains put in our custody for immediate dissolution. We do not propose to employ our technique of dematerialization; we merely wish to invoke the process of accelerated time. It is enough that we have seen the Sovereign live and die on Urantia; the hosts of heaven would be spared the memory of enduring the sight of the slow decay of the human form of the Creator and Upholder of a universe. In the name of the celestial intelligences of all Nebadon, I ask for a mandate giving me the custody of the mortal body of Jesus of Nazareth and empowering us to proceed with its immediate dissolution."

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The tomb of Joseph was empty, not because the body of Jesus had been rehabilitated or resurrected, but because the celestial hosts had been granted their request to afford it a special and unique dissolution, a return of the "dust to dust," without the intervention of the delays of time and without the operation of the ordinary and visible processes of mortal decay and material corruption.

189:2.8 The mortal remains of Jesus underwent the same natural process of elemental disintegration as characterizes all human bodies on earth except that, in point of time, this natural mode of dissolution was greatly accelerated, hastened to that point where it became well-nigh instantaneous.

http://urantiabook.org/newbook/papers/p189.htm

[CrackedCat]

Lunarwing:
I was thinking about the shroud. I first read about it twenty years ago.
What if?
When Christ's body was in the tomb what if it converted from matter to energy much like the transporter on Star Trek. Wouldn't this leave an image like the one on the shroud?

Close my friends- this is what actually happened.--


At two forty-five Sunday morning, the Paradise incarnation commission, consisting of seven unidentified Paradise personalities, arrived on the scene and immediately deployed themselves about the tomb. At ten minutes before three, intense vibrations of commingled material and morontia activities began to issue from Joseph's new tomb, and at two minutes past three o'clock, this Sunday morning, April 9, A.D. 30, the resurrected morontia form and personality of Jesus of Nazareth came forth from the tomb.

189:1.2 After the resurrected Jesus emerged from his burial tomb, the body of flesh in which he had lived and wrought on earth for almost thirty-six years was still lying there in the sepulchre niche, undisturbed and wrapped in the linen sheet, just as it had been laid to rest by Joseph and his associates on Friday afternoon. Neither was the stone before the entrance of the tomb in any way disturbed; the seal of Pilate was still unbroken; the soldiers were still on guard. The temple guards had been on continuous duty; the Roman guard had been changed at midnight. None of these watchers suspected that the object of their vigil had risen to a new and higher form of existence, and that the body which they were guarding was now a discarded outer covering which had no further connection with the delivered and resurrected morontia personality of Jesus.

189:1.3 Mankind is slow to perceive that, in all that is personal, matter is the skeleton of ..........
...........
>>>>>>>>>>> At ten minutes past three o'clock, as the resurrected Jesus fraternized with the assembled morontia personalities from the seven mansion worlds of Satania, the chief of archangels—the angels of the resurrection—approached Gabriel and asked for the mortal body of Jesus. Said the chief of the archangels: "We may not participate in the morontia resurrection of the bestowal experience of Michael our sovereign, but we would have his mortal remains put in our custody for immediate dissolution. We do not propose to employ our technique of dematerialization; we merely wish to invoke the process of accelerated time. It is enough that we have seen the Sovereign live and die on Urantia; the hosts of heaven would be spared the memory of enduring the sight of the slow decay of the human form of the Creator and Upholder of a universe. In the name of the celestial intelligences of all Nebadon, I ask for a mandate giving me the custody of the mortal body of Jesus of Nazareth and empowering us to proceed with its immediate dissolution."

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The tomb of Joseph was empty, not because the body of Jesus had been rehabilitated or resurrected, but because the celestial hosts had been granted their request to afford it a special and unique dissolution, a return of the "dust to dust," without the intervention of the delays of time and without the operation of the ordinary and visible processes of mortal decay and material corruption.

189:2.8 The mortal remains of Jesus underwent the same natural process of elemental disintegration as characterizes all human bodies on earth except that, in point of time, this natural mode of dissolution was greatly accelerated, hastened to that point where it became well-nigh instantaneous.

http://urantiabook.org/newbook/papers/p189.htm

Not that this is really relevant (but it does put a cast of doubt on your link), but why would He rise on Sunday? We can tell the day He was crucified by the verses of the Bible proceeding after the death (it was Wednesday, as there was a High Holy day the day after (Thursday), which is why they were in a rush to get Him off the cross [because they were not allowed to handle the dead on a Sabbath, which for them started at dusk the day before]), and then the Sabbath on Saturday (which is why they were coming on Sunday to get Him ready for burial by annointing Him with the oils, which took all day Friday to prepare). Anyway, He was also the "King of the Sabbath", which was and still is, Saturday. The bible is clear on some things, but NOT the day He actually rose from the tomb. It just says the tomb was found to be empty on Sunday. 72 hours after Wednesday at 3pm would put it at Saturday at 3pm.

Of course, the idea that 3 days meant something other than 72 hours throws a wrench into it too. For instance, it was custom of the time that if you were to go away for 3 days... they would include the day you left (1), the next day (2), and the day you returned (3).. BUT, it was considered 3 days all the same.
However, in the case of the Death and Resurrection of Christ, I believe it was actually 72 hours. The verses proceeding the death pretty much sum it up.

Just my thoughts.

Of course, if the Bible is wrong about it, then your link would be plausible as well. I will be going to go read that link you provided though. It sounds like it might shed light on other things. Thanks!

[Snowcat]

In the End, when you are all dead, you will know then that Jesus is THE CHRIST, just as you have been told within time and space.

[CrackedCat]

In the End, when you are all dead, you will know then that Jesus is THE CHRIST, just as you have been told within time and space.

Or perhaps we will find that He was an extra-terrestrial (which would be what He is technically since He didn't come from this earth) sent to all cultures here to set us straight. (though I do believe He was more than alien in nature)

Either way, unless He comes and lets us know what's going on in person, it might take us till we are dead to find out the truth.

[Majeston]

In the End, when you are all dead, you will know then that Jesus is THE CHRIST, just as you have been told within time and space.

Or perhaps we will find that He was an extra-terrestrial (which would be what He is technically since He didn't come from this earth) sent to all cultures here to set us straight. (though I do believe He was more than alien in nature)

Either way, unless He comes and lets us know what's going on in person, it might take us till we are dead to find out the truth.

You know what they say KittyKat, if you have to ask how much, you probably can't afford it.
Of course I can understand where you are coming from, because I have a pretty good idea of what you have read and been taught regarding this phenomenon. If you are sincerely seeking truth, usually you find it, but it might not come in the package you recognize. Here's a link you might enjoy. I will be bold and suggest that you view at least 3 consecutive video's in a row until you even begin to understand what you are seeing and what many of us already know.
http://www.perfectinghorizons.org/

[CrackedCat]

In the End, when you are all dead, you will know then that Jesus is THE CHRIST, just as you have been told within time and space.

Or perhaps we will find that He was an extra-terrestrial (which would be what He is technically since He didn't come from this earth) sent to all cultures here to set us straight. (though I do believe He was more than alien in nature)

Either way, unless He comes and lets us know what's going on in person, it might take us till we are dead to find out the truth.

You know what they say KittyKat, if you have to ask how much, you probably can't afford it.
Of course I can understand where you are coming from, because I have a pretty good idea of what you have read and been taught regarding this phenomenon. If you are sincerely seeking truth, usually you find it, but it might not come in the package you recognize. Here's a link you might enjoy. I will be bold and suggest that you view at least 3 consecutive video's in a row until you even begin to understand what you are seeing and what many of us already know.
http://www.perfectinghorizons.org/

But just as you perceive the truth in what you believe in as truth, so many others also believe in their truths, found in other sources. I at one time thought Christianity was the IT, the ALL, and now?? Not so much.

If your reply was directed at me, I am not looking for it to be wrapped up in a neat little package that I will readily understand (or even see). I am looking for answers, for the truth in all things. And I know in time, I will find it. Which is why I question all things, ask all things, and take in all things. I have found that the truth comes when you have an open mind.

I will be checking out the links you have provided though, as it peaks my curiosity. Thanks again!

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I thought the scifi film, "The Man From Earth" gave a fascinating take on this subject.