New Crop Circle

[Bob137]

I think that the extraterrestrials would do these to get the people that are not receptive to telepathy, that are so materialistic natured, to show them that they are out there, and here, in hopes of maybe waking them up!

[Moon]

I just read the article on crop circles by Popular Science. They did not give an answer to the microwave patterns found, but rather made a statement that it was flawed research. That is the mind of a debunker, if it does not fit your theory, throw it out and hope no one else is going to catch it.

I did find a good website that is also about the research of crop circles and am reading it now:

http://www.bltresearch.com/index.php

This site is not a New Age one, but a really scientific look at the phenomena. So far it is an excellent site, but does not state they are man made or made by extraterrestrials.

[Bob137]

Good report Max. It seems to me, to verify that we are dealing with something either not of this world, or of another dimension. Maybe humans or other beings on earth in a higher or dimension, trying to convey messages?

[Foxlike Mulder]

I also wonder why the extraterrestrials would do such a thing. If they can use telepathy to communicate with us, why put up these elaborate designs?

I also wonder why people would spend so much time and energy to do the same thing as there is no money involved in this. How do they support themselves?

That is why this one is such a mystery to me.

I sometimes wonder if we get caught up in thinking logically like humans think. If crop circles are extraterrestrial in nature, then clearly you have entities far, far ahead of us intellectually. I know that it's hard to communicate human to human sometimes (male to female even!)...so species to species, especially ones that could be literally light years apart from us from an evolutionary perspective, it could be easy to misread intentions, messages and the like.

[Bob137]

Speaking of communicating with ET's, we are not sure if they think more like men, or women, or something entirely different, maybe more like Morphadites?
Just talking with one of my X-wives can give me a headache, and that is when it is a good conversation. So I just try not to go there anymore. Communicating with ET's, well I think it is more they communicate with us, the way they want to, whether we like it or not. I also think they will do it however th ey want, not how we think they should do it. If they feel like utilizing telepathy they will, if they feel like making crop circles they will, if they feel like abducting people they will, if they feel like stopping by, and saying hello, they will, if they feel like talking with the governments they will, if not they will not! Remember we are the stupid stinky monkey people, not them, so they do as they please, regardless of what we think or feel!

[Moon]

It also could be a form of artistic impression by the extraterrestrials. All we can do is speculate and do the research on the subject.

I do use skeptical sites to look at both sides of the issue, but when one side decides to just ignore the evidence or call it bad science that does raise a red flag for me. This is usually true of the skeptical sites, but I have also seen it on the pro sites out there. I love to find sites that go out to find the answers and do not put in an agenda for one way or the other.

[Bob137]

You might have just hit the nail on the head Max, it may be a form of artistic expression communicating their thoughts, and ideas, or beliefs, or even their way of thinking to us. Maybe the ones who are doing this aren't the scientific ones who like to utilize people as lab rats, but are just artists doing their thing!

[Moon]

I must admit this is one subject where I went from believing all crop circles were man-made to now believing there are other forces at stake out there. Thanks to all for putting up the very good sites out there that gave differing views on what was going on.

It was the evidence that was ignored by the mainstreamers that made the difference.

[Ace Rimmer]

I must admit this is one subject where I went from believing all crop circles were man-made to now believing there are other forces at stake out there. Thanks to all for putting up the very good sites out there that gave differing views on what was going on.

It was the evidence that was ignored by the mainstreamers that made the difference.

I am so glad to hear this.
I do believe people can be too quick to dismiss them as something "mysterious" because when a person does do some reading and is confronted with the startling scientific facts, it is hard not to accept the fact that something strange is indeed going on.
I have no idea who or what is making the ones that are not man made. It really is a great mystery. But a person has to do more than read one debunking article. The facts seem to speak for themselves.

I watched this really good documentary the other day about UFO sightings and encounters in the 1970's and there were several encounters with hovering objects in people's fields, seen by more than one person and investigated by police right after, there were good pictures too, and whatever the hovering objects were, they were small UFOs, they left the crops swirled in the spots they were hovering over, much like crude crop circles.
I find the whole subject of crop circles extremely fascinating and would love for this mystery to be solved. The really great part is, it's happening now, it's not just something we are hearing about, some ancient mystery.

[angeloneastralseed]

In a world where we are lied to every day - it doesn't surprise me that something of any supernatural phenomenon would be dismissed, covered-up or made to look like a hoax. I believe there is a mixture of man-made and alien made crop circles out there. One thing I was reading on crop circles is the fact that some of them, when spun at certain speeds will reveal more in the 3rd dimension it creates as opposed to the 2nd dimension we see as it sits there. I was looking into meditation sounds and images also came up, crop circle spinning as one of them. I haven't found one with a message I can clearly see but the concept is a different approach to understanding them.

[Moon]

Andrew Collins has written a book about crop circles which I have on my wish list. He wrote The Cygnus Mystery and is quite well respected and dedicated in his research. This subject is really amazing and I want to get caught up on it.

[Bob137]

I just saw on I think it was either Nat Geo or Science Channel today a show on Crop Circles, and they had scientists check out everything, and concluded that for us to make it would be very costly and time consuming. Then they had some MIT students try to make a crop circle with the just some of the effects that crop circles have, (that are obviously not man made). They figured out how to do it first, and what equipment they needed to be able to use microwave, and such, and to complete it all within 4 hours. They got 'er done in just one or two seconds shy of the 4 hours. They got graded by two graduates, and got a A- and a B+. They would have got better grades if they could have duplicated each of the few things exactly, but even though they are some of the smartest minds here, they still could not do it exactly as the ET crop circles. Now if MIT students have a hard time duplicating just some of the effects, and using equipment they make, then how do other humans other than very rich be able to afford to do this, and in such a short time. Also even though they made the crop circle, since they did try to make it to specifications, the circles did put off anomalies, and the helicopter lost power flying close to it, and regained power away from it.

[Foxlike Mulder]

There was a series of crop circle-like events in Mexico last month...although not circles, they are geometric swaths out of farmland which are similar to the crop circle. There are many witnesses to lights seen before the patterns were discovered. The land coverage is 6-7 acres, all of which happened apparently overnight. The witnesses also point to the elbow bends in the wheat grass blades...bent or folded over, but not broken (as would happen with trampling). The video is from the Mexican UFO "Geraldo Rivera" type guy, but it's still pretty compelling stuff. The specific place where this happened is Tula, Hidalgo (Mexico). Tula became a capital city in Mexico following Teotihuacan about 1000 years ago...there are pyramids and other ruins in near proximity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... H22oc#t=0s

[polaris]

While humans may be able to duplicate a design, the shear volume of crop circles around the world, past and present, precludes any human involvement.
And how about the messages contained within!! Humans can barely figure them out now!