Osama bin Laden confirmed dead

[ilacewords]

They just broke in television & looks like its just now hitting the net.

[Moon]

They just broke in television & looks like its just now hitting the net.

Here is a link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/0 ... lnk2|59777

I am watching this now, thank you for the news alert!

[ilacewords]

I've got it on CBS right now. President about to speak. I'm sure that'll be on all channels

[Bob137]

I know isn't it about time. I am glad that psychopath is finally gone, now they just have to get rid of the rest of those pyschopathic rats! I have not ever wanted anyone dead, It is not how I think, but this guy was not a good human being at all, and I am glad that he is no longer with us on this material plane of existence. I will not state what is really on my mind, for that would be beyond what this thread needs, but I do hope that this is all true, and he is really gone for good. I know other psychopaths will utilize him as a Martyr, but it is still good that he is gone from this life.

[Theory]

I know isn't it about time. I am glad that psychopath is finally gone, now they just have to get rid of the rest of those pyschopathic rats! I have not ever wanted anyone dead, It is not how I think, but this guy was not a good human being at all, and I am glad that he is no longer with us on this material plane of existence. I will not state what is really on my mind, for that would be beyond what this thread needs, but I do hope that this is all true, and he is really gone for good. I know other psychopaths will utilize him as a Martyr, but it is still good that he is gone from this life.

Agree, again! I hope they at least captured most of his followers, because I'm pretty sure they'll want to retaliate if they can.

[Pons Asinorum]

He murdered thousands upon thousands of people. He caused wars, perverted a religion, and justified evil. He was human, but not a human being by any definition that matters.


To the rainmakers, shooters, and finders -- Thank You for taking the trash out. ♠

[ilacewords]

Well said Pons

[Randyrrr]

I wouldn't believe it.
I am from the show me group.
Why dump the body?
All of those ships have freezers on them.
Something smells fishy to me....

Why not display this body to the press.
Remember some of the so called hijackers have been found still alive and hiding from the CIA.

[guamdre]

I wouldn't believe it.
I am from the show me group.
Why dump the body?
All of those ships have freezers on them.
Something smells fishy to me....

Why not display this body to the press.
Remember some of the so called hijackers have been found still alive and hiding from the CIA.

I am in the same boat! I have been looking over 9/11 conspiracy sites and it seems odd that there is no photos of the body. Why a "proper Islamic burial" for Osama after he masterminded the deaths of so many individuals? I wonder if he wasn't already dead and this is just a politically motivated hoax to secure the 2012 election for Obama. As a former member of the military, I don't know whether to cheer or become more skeptical of our government. Also, the May 1st date has some significance. See the link below. Stay safe and aware everyone.


http://www.examiner.com/strange-mysteri ... cy-lingers

[ilacewords]

Thanks for that examiner link. Over lunch talking with my significant other he said, "So what's the cover up for bin Laden's death? Why now and what are they hiding with this announcement?"
Seems even in the official story, small cracks are being let out like the DNA testing (this isn't done in an hour) and the body is already gone. It all went down in a luxury compound, the largest in the area of a neighborhood that consisted of a lot of Pakistani ex-military.
Plus the announcement on such a significant day...smells much more fishy than his body is currently smelling....

Edit to include the date significance in the forum:

The fact that the death announcement came eight years to the day from former-President George W. Bush’s “Mission Accomplished” speech is seen as the administration tacitly winking at those in the know. Many are already demanding to see the long-form death certificate.

The date, May 1, is also a day loaded with political and occult significance. May 1st is known around the world as International Worker’s Day and is celebrated widely. By releasing the news on May Day, President Obama has forced his unwitting political opponents to celebrate the same holiday as socialists, communists, and anarchists. Pretty sneaky, Mr. President

May 1 is also Beltane to the Celts and Walpurgis Night to Germanic peoples, both significant holidays on the pagan and Satanic calendars. Beltane has been described as a “festival of optimism” closely linked to fertility rituals (it is spring, after all) and the burning of bonfires in rituals of purification. Walpurgis Night is also associated with bonfires and dancing.

May 1st, 1776, is also the day Adam Weishaupt founded the Illuminati in Ingolstadt, Bavaria.

But that's probably just a coincidence.

[guamdre]

I just watched the White House press conference about his death and I am not convinced this is the truth. Here is another link. We parade Saddam's sons bodies through the streets but we decide to give Osama a sea burial? I especially like the Zombie Awareness month part

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blo ... _blog.html

[ilacewords]

I'm watching this new link now but just had a thought pop up and verified it online....Hitler also announced dead on May Day...
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/05/02/may-day-both-hitler-and-bin-laden-announced-dead-on-may-1/

Edit : May 1st:
dedication of the Empire State Building
founding of North Korea
death/suicide of Joseph Goebbels

was a very busy day in history

[mahalla2]

I was hoping some of the clever AAT's would be questioning all of this because as others have noted 1) no body 2) a burial at sea? really, give me a break 3) a connection to (and here we go again) Masonic related dates/ritual, and 4) nothing else that really makes sense -

[Theory]

After I found out on the radio today about the sea burial it really made me wonder if something was up, I'm glad im not the only one .

[Bob137]

I would have chopped off his head, and the put it in one ocean, and the rest in another, and the yelled, the wicked witch is dead. I am retired military, and believe they did the right thing, to avoid pissing all the Muslims off, not just the fanatical ones, that will try to get back at the U.S. for this. Other than that, I see no conspiracy, the date for this, may have been planned, but I still think he is dead, one way or another. To me, that is all that matters in regards to that psychopath.

[Shaun_Omega]

I don't buy it one bit.

-US forces kill him in pakistan of all places, not to mention it was the US forces that got him, mhm.
-Timing.
-How quickly the US forces/government got rid of the body (like how a serial killer disposes a victim's body).
-All the evidence connecting Al Qaeda to the CIA.
-"US Government confirms that their forces have killed Bin Laden", if you want to believe the word of the US government then be my guest, more entertainment for me to laugh at.

Maybe the government's word is all true, then the joke is on me.

[Bob137]

I am not saying that all they put out is tru, it is just that I had been in Black Ops when I was younger, and I know how they work, and that this is a very probable scenario, not out of a Black Ops jurisdiction, or capability. They have far greater technology and gun power than you know to be able to complete a mission of this sort, and soldiers of this sort are the best of the best. So to say this could not have been done in a rural setting in Pakistan, 50 km from the capital is ridiculous. They could have done it at the capital if needed!

[paland]

And all of the evidence is under the sea. How convenient!

[Shaun_Omega]

And all of the evidence is under the sea. How convenient!

So much for forensics ey.

[Ace Rimmer]

I smell something fishy, the quick burial at sea just doesn't seem right to me.
I love the May 1st info, good going folks. I too am glad I am not the only one who isn't cheering jubilantly about the news. It's also not going to change a thing in the world, I am also not so sure he hasn't been dead for a long time anyway.

[mahalla2]

I smell something fishy, the quick burial at sea just doesn't seem right to me.
I love the May 1st info, good going folks. I too am glad I am not the only one who isn't cheering jubilantly about the news. It's also not going to change a thing in the world, I am also not so sure he hasn't been dead for a long time anyway.

yes, no doubt he has been swimming with the fishes for quite some time -

[Ace Rimmer]

Yeah that was pretty funny I don't care who ya are! I smell a rat.

[mahalla2]

Yeah that was pretty funny I don't care who ya are! I smell a rat.

And I smell a whole pack of rats!

[Gemini]

Does it state in the Koran that dumping the body in the sea is a proper burial?

bin Laden could have been killed years ago, or relocated by the CIA years ago, etc...

[Pons Asinorum]

Thanks ilacewords!

--

Know matter what the President decided, there really was no good solution:

1. leave OBL in place (alive)
2. leave OBL in place (dead)
3. capture OBL (now what-- trial??)
4. kill OBL display his body (propaganda value for enemy)
5. kill OBL and have family bury him (shrine)
6. kill OBL and we bury him (shrine)
7. kill OBL and get rid of the corpse ASAP in the ocean (conspiracy)

I think Bob is correct (IMHO), the military/intel community got him, then were ordered to dispose of the corpse ASAP. The President just picked the best of bad options from his perspective.

With that said, I do disagree with his choice -- Islamic Terrorists are going to attack us no matter what (we just sneeze funny, and instant jihad), but all-in-all I can understand the logic of his decision. For me (screw it): I would have beheaded him, put his head on a pike, and displayed it (option 4) on a coast-to-coast Amtrack train. Repercussions be damned, because they are coming anyway.

Just curious -- this is for anyone who believes OBL was killed -- If you were in charge, what would you do with corpse?

[Ace Rimmer]

If he was just killed now. Then his body should have been displayed for all of the world to see. Then we, and everybody else, wouldn't have to be sitting around here speculating and pointing fingers. Seems like somebody should have put a little more thought into this.

[Shaun_Omega]

"US President Barack Obama has hailed the death of al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden as a "good day for America," saying the world is now a safer and a better place."

Hahahaha, mmmmmmmhm, and what world would that be now, the world of magical gumdrop forests and leprechauns of course!

[ke5ehi]

[mahalla2]

Perhaps Obama does not really know what happened to Osama because Obama has not been told the truth about Osama either - At any rate I still like Obama better and am glad Osama is gone forever -

[Shaun_Omega]

Perhaps Obama does not really know what happened to Osama because Obama has not been told the truth about Osama either - At any rate I still like Obama better and am glad Osama is gone forever -

The truth about Osama, that is the big question. I guess most people are just happy in believing Osama Bin Laden caused 9/11, and maybe he did, but there is too much evidence pointing to other roads, and the fact people have ignored this fact so easily is just sad, ignorance on a grand scale!

I really do love the timing, with the next presidential election coming up, this is just what Obama needed to secure his role as president for a second term.

[mahalla2]

well, it's probably the part about using women for human shields, and children as human grenades that keeps people like me happy there are less cockroaches like Osama Bin Laden around regardless of the unethical and rather smelly government tactics on the U.S. side of things -

[Shaun_Omega]

well, it's probably the part about using women for human shields, and children as human grenades that keeps people like me happy there are less cockroaches like Osama Bin Laden around regardless of the unethical and rather smelly government tactics on the U.S. side of things -

I do agree with you, IF he is indeed responsible for such actions then of course counter action is to be taken to bring someone like that down. BUT the problem is was he really responsible for those actions, worse yet if he was and worked for the US government, in the end you are going by what some corrupt "super powered" government is telling you, these are factors people seem to ignore, not to mention the CIA connections and 9/11 being staged that has strong evidence to show, and now with that said government ditching the body in such an asinine manner really doesn't help the whole act of "justice" carried out for the crimes this said person has committed.

ONCE again we have too many questions and not enough answers, makes me wonder who the bigger "criminal" is, especially if Osama was working for the US government.

I just don't like going by the words of the US government, and at this point I never will.

[ilacewords]

Know matter what the President decided, there really was no good solution:

1. leave OBL in place (alive)
2. leave OBL in place (dead)
3. capture OBL (now what-- trial??)
4. kill OBL display his body (propaganda value for enemy)
5. kill OBL and have family bury him (shrine)
6. kill OBL and we bury him (shrine)
7. kill OBL and get rid of the corpse ASAP in the ocean (conspiracy)

I think Bob is correct (IMHO), the military/intel community got him, then were ordered to dispose of the corpse ASAP. The President just picked the best of bad options from his perspective.

With that said, I do disagree with his choice -- Islamic Terrorists are going to attack us no matter what (we just sneeze funny, and instant jihad), but all-in-all I can understand the logic of his decision. For me (screw it): I would have beheaded him, put his head on a pike, and displayed it (option 4) on a coast-to-coast Amtrack train. Repercussions be damned, because they are coming anyway.

Just curious -- this is for anyone who believes OBL was killed -- If you were in charge, what would you do with corpse?

I do like your listing Pons and I agree, these were probably about his only options. I think I would agree with your Amtrak train proposal. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yesterday already spoke about a 'hellstorm' coming to the US for OBL's death. I do think the repercussions could be coming anyway. All major channels that I flipped around on the 'World News' last night, NBC, CBS, ABC all seemed to mention 'Just because he's gone - don't count the terrorists out." All broadcasting live from Ground Zero. I mean it's a logical thought but it came across to my paranoid brain as the primer. Not sure if I should or

Also for what Metaluna is hinting about about not sure if OBL was killed then or maybe years ago, I also have to echo that too. There's too many others holding positions of power that have also felt the same over the past 10 years.

Former CIA officer and hugely respected intelligence & foreign policy expert Robert Baer, who in 2008 when asked about Bin Laden by a radio host responded, “Of course he is dead.”

- On December 26, 2001, Fox News, citing a Pakistan Observer story, reported that the Afghan Taliban had pronounced Bin Laden dead and buried him in an unmarked grave.

- On January 18, 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf announced: “I think now, frankly, he is dead.”

- On July 17, 2002, the then-head of counterterrorism at the FBI, Dale Watson, told a conference of law enforcement officials that “I personally think he [Bin Laden] is probably not with us anymore.”

- In October 2002, Afghan President Hamid Karzai told CNN that “I would come to believe that [Bin Laden] probably is dead.

- In 2003, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright told Fox News Channel analyst Morton Kondracke she suspected Bush knew the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden and was waiting for the most politically expedient moment to announce his capture.

- In November 2005, Senator Harry Reid revealed that he was told Osama may have died in the Pakistani earthquake of October that year.

- In February 2007, Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke University’s Religious Studies program, stated that the purported video and audio tapes that were being released of Bin Laden were fake and that he was probably dead.

- On November 2, 2007, former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto told Al-Jazeera’s David Frost that Omar Sheikh had killed Osama Bin Laden.

- In March 2009, former US foreign intelligence officer and professor of international relations at Boston University Angelo Codevilla stated: “All the evidence suggests Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama Bin Laden.”

- In May 2009, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari confirmed that his “counterparts in the American intelligence agencies” hadn’t heard anything from Bin Laden in seven years and confirmed “I don’t think he’s alive.”

Source with links to the above sources:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/inside-sources-bin-ladens-corpse-has-been-on-ice-for-nearly-a-decade.html

So I can see why it's hard for anyone to really figure out exactly how they feel about it.

[Ace Rimmer]

Thanks for finding all of that for us ilace. Gives us much more to think about.

[Shaun_Omega]

I recommend people give this a watch before submitting to the BS the US government feeds you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpBPVkpmoeg

and if that isn't enough for you then watch this multipart feature on the subject.

Part One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F49vg7P48Lw