Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

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Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Moon » Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:56 pm

This episode has me quite intrigued as a few episodes have touched on the evidence of possible use of nuclear weapons. I hope they go in much more depth here as the physical evidence is hard to disprove. Very much looking forward to this one.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Bob137 » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:36 am

The debunkers still say it is circumstancial evidence though. I for one, have read on this subject from a long time ago, prior to EVD even putting his first book out. I think that the evidence for this is very good, but that more is still needed, and I hope in time more will be found. We really need to find one of those Space Ships, and show the world.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Moon » Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:38 pm

Bob137 wrote:The debunkers still say it is circumstancial evidence though. I for one, have read on this subject from a long time ago, prior to EVD even putting his first book out. I think that the evidence for this is very good, but that more is still needed, and I hope in time more will be found. We really need to find one of those Space Ships, and show the world.


I am hoping they go through all the evidence they have and show more if any has recently been found. The debunkers have no real explanation for the evidence presented, as they usually ignore it. That is one reason I have high hopes on this episode as the ones dealing with physical evidence tend to shine.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Bob137 » Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:01 pm

I remember one show on I think Discovery, that had a scientist investigating the glass in the Sahara, and he said it was caused from an asteroid, or volcanic activity. Yet there is no evidence of an asteroid hitting there, or a volcano in the area.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Moon » Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:10 pm

Bob137 wrote:I remember one show on I think Discovery, that had a scientist investigating the glass in the Sahara, and he said it was caused from an asteroid, or volcanic activity. Yet there is no evidence of an asteroid hitting there, or a volcano in the area.


They said the same thing about the Flatwoods Monster incident: It was an owl and a meteor. As Stanton Friedman keeps asking: "Where is the crater of the fallen meteor?" As long as they have an answer and their skeptical followers don't ask but just blindly accept, they are happy. Those of us who ask questions are labeled tin foil hat kooks. (Actually, I wear aluminum foil hats!)
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Bob137 » Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:22 pm

That's funny, that gives you a shiny head! I guess they are just Stupid Stinky Monkey People, and no matter what is found, if a star ship is found, they will say it is an asteroid, or a hot air balloon, or one of our secret spy planes. I know we have many secret's in our government and military, but I still have a hard time believing they are advanced enough for space travel without rockets.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Moon » Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:19 pm

I found this episode to be quite disappointing. I was hoping they would go to the sites where there is evidence of possible nuclear war. All they did was use ancient myths and stories to make the claims of the use of weapons of mass destruction. The same ancient Hindu texts were given with some magical swords now added for some fun.

Still, with all the evidence looking at them in the face, the use of just stories does not make a case the ancients had such weapons in use.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Bob137 » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:27 pm

It could be that since they did show those on past episodes, and that they may have a future episode they will go into this further. I admit though it would have helped the case showing it with that episode also.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Sagittarii » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:30 pm

I found nothing interesting at all in this episode...imo a lot of far fetched speculation.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Dr Z. » Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:41 am

The episode was sub par. Could ancient Aliens have helped the cause of some by forging superior weapons similar to the swords of the times? Possible.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby seeker1117 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:38 am

...sigh...the last two episodes have been pretty much "duds" as far as I'm concerned. The one coming up on Wednesday doesn't look like it will be much better. Too many of these episodes this season have been about "dark" or "evil" things...again, they're playin' to the peanut gallery. If this were Season 2, we could call it a "sophomore slump"...
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Trev12 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:05 am

What is happening to ancient aliens this season?

This episode and the last two were just speculation and is not going to convince even the hardened AAT...

Where is the quality control this season? Season One was brilliant, while Season 2 was just good. Although season
two has some great episodes there were a few duds in there too...

Is it lazyness this season or what?

There has only been one really great episode this season and that was Aliens and Ancient Engineers...
but yet only spend 10 minutes on the likes of Malta and Egypt? A whole episode can be done for both!

Where is there real research here? What has it given us that we didnt know before? Even Georgio has become
rather predictable saying 'flesh and blood extra terrestrails' all the time. I think even saying this is a little
close minded... evidence has shown that these beings were anything but... like its not a 'physical' world we live
in as quantum mechanics and science is now discovering , but full of energy and the ancients understood this.
The parts comparing little figurines to mordern day astronauts is totally absurd! If these ETs were that advanced
why would they need any suits or breathing apparatus in the first place? Rockets ditto - these ET beings were was
above having something as prehistoric as 'rockets' .. the evidence for UFOs show that these things can move faster
that the speed of sound and , dissapear at will. Like I do not believe Baalbek for example was some ancient launch
pad ..why would they need that? Like they say things like that but then have no problem showing a circular UFO on
occassions that shoot off into the distance ..

The next episode sounds awful too! Why not spend episodes examining the ancinet engineering which is the meat and
bones of the whole AAT. There are still loads of places that they havent covered !
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Bob137 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:15 am

There is more than likely many different ET's with different levels of technology, not just one that is so advanced as to utilize flying discs only. Our planet may be the glaxies experimental station not just of terra-forming, but also for human forming, and animal forming. This could be an out of the way, way station for many different species of different types and levels of technology. Some may come in faster than light vehicles and still utilize rockets and such, some may come through vortex's and have higher spiritual technology, and some may come through wormholes utilizing powers of the suns to go from one solar system to another, and be far advanced enough for hyper drive technology, and some may come from another dimension and utilize ultra-dimensional technology. Just speculating that all ET's are of one source and makup and technology closes off the other possibiiities of multiple ET existence.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Ace Rimmer » Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:36 am

I wish they would spend more time on one or two topics per episode. Not just speculate and not show much of anything.

They could spend an hour on Libyan Desert Glass.
They could give Christopher Dunn and hour.

I haven't been keeping up with this season very well at all. I think for people, like most of us on here, it is rehash and not real credible at times.
More time needs to be spent on ancient artifacts and structures than seem to defy modern technology and try to find a reason for it.
Launch pads and landing pads don't always make much sense to me, nor do space suits.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Trev12 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:58 am

'Libyan Desert Glass'
- Well it defo is glass now after NATO are finished bombing the country to kingdom come !

As for 'flesh and blood' ETs ...
- If these ETs come from another planet in the solar system then why would they even have blood?
For a guy like Georgio who is always thinking in terms of what people back then were tryingto describe
im suprised he cannot see that by saying 'flesh and blood' he is trying to define these beings as something
all too human and in our frame of reference. What these things are , are probably even beyond out comprehension ..
like ants trying to figure out whats outside the ant colony !
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Bob137 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:40 am

Not that I am trying to defend Giorgio, but when it comes to ET's some scientists speculate that they are of a completely different makeup, and others believe they are of the same makeup we are. Either is possible, and it seems that Giorgio holds to the belief of them being of our type of makeup. Which in regards to ancient civilizations heiroglyphs, petroglyphs, and writings, there does seem to be both. I still believe that this current season is playing to the ignorant masses, not to the ones who have knowledge of Ancient Aliens. Yes it is sad for us, but it may be good for the less learned, and knowledgeable. I also wish they would get on with it, and utilize the shows for more in depth and intelligent fact finding, and utilize more evidence of findings, than speculation. I also wish they would go more in depth on the architectural, engineering, and building aspects, which are so controversial.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Moon » Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:35 pm

They do have to fill sixteen episodes with different subjects and I am thinking they are pacing themselves if they get a fourth season of sixteen episodes.

I agree with MetaLuna the show could give an hour to a certain researcher and show their theories and evidence.

I do think the upcoming episode on Founding Fathers could be a good one.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Trev12 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:31 am

I've just been on Ancient aliens facebook page and there are a lot of people on there claiming that season 3 is the
best yet. I dont understand how this coud be so. How does stories and tall tales of 'grim reapers' and 'magic swords'
have anything to do with ancient aliens. Infact these epsidoes DAMAGE CREDIBILITY of the theory in general. Like,
there are loads of places all over the world waiting to be analysed. For example still no mention of the unfinished obliesk
at Aswan Egypt which is the 2nd larges ancinet 'cut' stone in the world after baalbek.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Dr Z. » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:17 pm

Trev,

While I think Season three has been the weakest of the to date, there was some gold in the Acient Engineers episode. IMO the proof of concept in this episode was outstanding! As good as it gets when you examine a topic 100’s or 1,000’s of years old!

Unfortunately, I have to use a poster name here. If I became a fan of the show on facebook, it would adversely affect what some co-workers and friends think of me. I’m 90% sold on the AAT theory.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Moon » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:39 pm

Trev, I also agree with you about this season not being the best. There have been some really good episodes, but others which only feature conjecture from stories of myth and the Bible.

I also use my real name, but like the use of monikers as it makes things more imaginative for me.

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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby tajds5 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:09 pm

The last few episodes that I have seen have been rather bland compared to the ones over the summer. However, I can say that despite this each episode has given me at least one new thing to consider. The Deadly Weapons episode (9/22/11) discussed the legend of King Arthur and his swords. Giorgio's statement regarding the possibility of the sword in the stone and biometric security measures was thought provoking. What we know: The sword in the stone was NOT Excalibur (also known as Caliburn). It was King Uther's sword, the High King of Britain. Uther's Counselor, Merlin, takes the sword and uses "magic" to embed it into stone. No one but a true heir (blood descendant) of Uther can claim the sword and become the next High King.

How could this be proven in a time that didn't even possess antibiotics?
An advanced technology designed to read genetic code (from blood, saliva, semen, sweat, skin oil, hair, and other DNA containing fluids or tissues) would have to play a part. Touching the handle of the embedded sword would expose it to skin oils and sweat. Merlin knew that Uther had an heir. He helped Uther deceive Arthur's mother and demanded the child as payment. He then took Arthur and fostered him out to prevent anyone discovering who his father was. Why would he do this?

Also, we deal with Excalibur. Excalibur came with a magical sheath that prevented the wearer from being harmed by man made weapons. Who gave the sword to Arthur? The Lady of The Lake. Really? Wasn't she supposed to have been Queen Mab's sister? Didn't Mab create Merlin? Merlin was a druid (wizard, etc) who had no earthly father. Is it possible then, that AA were involved? Who or what was the lady of the lake? Was it a USO? And if so, why help Arthur?

Time and time again, truths have been discovered when delving into myth, legend and scripture. It is not always cut and dried. It requires research, interpretation and knowledge of the culture who recorded the information. Finding the truth requires us to look at all possibilities.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Bob137 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:43 pm

I agree on those topics of the weapons, and staffs, and wands, all seemed to be other worldy technologies utilized by EBE's/ET's,Gods/Angels/Aliens or given to mankind to utilize. I wish I had one myself, I would even take a lightsaber!
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby Sunrisepony » Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:34 pm

@ Tajds5

They had antibiotics , just not "traditional western medicine". At that time they would have been using herbs and holistic methods like they had been for thousands of years until I think late 1800's or something when western techniques/methods took over for the most part and the western world "lost it's way" and humanity took another step towards loosing it's connection with the earth.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby tajds5 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:54 am

Yes, I know they did use various herbs for infection. The herbal remedies still in use are actually better for your system than man made compounds in non life threatening situations. I was referring to modern antibiotics used for more advanced infections.
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Re: Ancient Aliens and Deadly Weapons (Sep 22, 2011)

Postby tracy2greeb » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:41 pm

I did not find this episode bland. I thought that there were enough references to nuclear technology being used in ancient times(eg.Sodom & Gomorrah). Legends have, of course, been exaggerated over time. Something had to have been the base of these legends. I also think that the building with monolithic stones indicates that a more advanced technology was in play during ancient times. If they are using advanced technologies for building, why not destruction?
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