Nibiru

[Cammi2012]

So- what happened it it's past that the earthlings repeated? is there a book that explains what happened or how the planet evolved?

[Moon]

So- what happened it it's past that the earthlings repeated? is there a book that explains what happened or how the planet evolved?

The book "The Twelfth Planet" by Zecharia Sitchin is the first one to bring up the Nibiru theory. According to how Mr Sitchin interpreted the Sumerian Tablets, the planet Nibiru was created when two planets collided and created the Earth, Moon and the planet Nibiru. This is now considered a possible theory as to how the Moon formed.

The orbit of Nibiru is not supposed to take it near Earth until the year 2600ACE, give or take a hundred years.

The problems with this theory are numerous from a planet that size approaching the Earth would affect all the other orbits of the planets. Also, how could life evolve from it to advanced creatures when it is so far away from the Sun for the most part of its orbit. Also, Mr Sitchin interestingly makes a claim that since humans live 70 or so years here, he multiplies 70 by 3600 (the length in years of the orbit of Nibiru) to come up with the Annunaki living for hundreds of thousands of years.

While I do think there are many planets past Neptune to be discovered (including Tyche), I do not think Nibiru is a planet. I think it is a mother ship instead.

[AnuAtlantian]

The beginning how the solar system formed with the sun first then Tiamat (old mother earth), Kingu Tiamats moon her main satalite. Out of Tiamat mingling with the sun, came Mercury a messenger, the celestial couples Venus and Mars, Jupiter and Saturn, Neptune and Uranus, Then the Celestial Battle from deep space Nibiru came. The planets Nibiru attracted, It made Neptune bow to Nibiru(90degree axis)(if I say uranis bow its too funny). Saturn(Anshar) had a moon Gaga(Pluto) by her side and Nibiru pulled it out sending it forth as an emissary (the 9th planet) taking other moons with it. From the creator a moon of Nibiru strikes Tiamat in two. Now locked in an opposite orbit returns and Nibiru smashes one half of Tiamat to bits stringing it around the sun. The Hammered Bracelet as a reminder of the celestial battle. The other half New Earth with its golden veins moved to its new position keeping Tiamat's moon. Why Comets are around in long orbits too. The Upper Waters, The Hammered Bracelet, The Lower Waters.(basic story based on the - Enuma Elish, or the 7 Tablets of creation, or epic of Creation.)

About Nibiru the tenth planet. (The Prior Times, before the Anunnaki came to Earth)
The Anunnaki beginning talks about their planet reddish in radiance. its volcanoes on the planet that belch and help form their atmosphere. The inner heat like a green house keeps the planet like a warm coat in its cold period away from the sun. The atmosphere shields the planet from the suns scorching rays when in the close hot period. The 3600 year orbit circuit they call a Shar.

[Cammi2012]

I already know all of that..lol.. I wanted to know what was going on on Nibiru when it was out in deep space before tiamat

[AnuAtlantian]

The destiny of that planet was from another solar system. In what unknown way, The cosmic god of the universe, The Creator- might be the only one with the answer.

[Cammi2012]

oh, ok. So no one really knows anything about Nibiru BEFORE it came into our solar system?

PS- SO EXCITED!!! I just gave my mother in law The Lost Book of Enki...

One more recruited!!

[Moon]

oh, ok. So no one really knows anything about Nibiru BEFORE it came into our solar system?

PS- SO EXCITED!!! I just gave my mother in law The Lost Book of Enki...

One more recruited!!

My answer is simple: Nibiru does not exist as a planet. While there have been many trans-Neptunian worlds discovered (with Tyche being a possible gas giant to explain some of the orbits of the outer planets), not one of them would be able to have an orbit that would take them close to Terra.

If there is/was a Nibiru, it would have to be a mother ship not a planet.

The question asked is a good one and leads to asking how any complex lifeforms could of developed on such a cold/hostile place, especially humanoid type lifeforms.

[Cammi2012]

then where would the mother ship be from?

[AnuAtlantian]

from the imagination, cause nibiru as a mothership is not in any text i know of. In the enuma elish, marduk nibiru is the planet that collided with tiamat and formed the asteroid belt. Just because someone says its not a planet does not make it true. I think its a mother ship, does not make it a mothership. If you say you have a theory of it as a mothership, that does not mean rule it out as a planet. There are 3 diferent views of nibiru, as a binary star dark star in our solarsystem with its anunnaki planet nibiru. the 10th planet of the crossing from the enuma elish texts, and the new mothership i just heard of. I believe in Nibiru as a 10th planet of the crossing as in the oldest texts.

[Cammi2012]

I believe in Nibiru as a 10th planet of the crossing as in the oldest texts.

will you elaborate/break down this quote? i dont understand.

[coomba98]

Of all the ancient scripts I have read on Sumeria I have not come across one that mentions Nibiru as a planet.

The correct translation of Nibiru is "Place of the Crossing". Not planet.

I only know of the Sumerian town of Nibru but not planet.

Also if you read the enuma elish you will notice that the script does not set out the creation of the solar system.
To read the enuma elish like this would take alot of imagination.

[Moon]

from the imagination, cause nibiru as a mothership is not in any text i know of. In the enuma elish, marduk nibiru is the planet that collided with tiamat and formed the asteroid belt. Just because someone says its not a planet does not make it true. I think its a mother ship, does not make it a mothership. If you say you have a theory of it as a mothership, that does not mean rule it out as a planet. There are 3 diferent views of nibiru, as a binary star dark star in our solarsystem with its anunnaki planet nibiru. the 10th planet of the crossing from the enuma elish texts, and the new mothership i just heard of. I believe in Nibiru as a 10th planet of the crossing as in the oldest texts.

As I have stated AnuAtlantian, astronomers have ruled out Nibiru as a planet that orbits close to Jupiter. Mr Sitchin got this one wrong when he deciphered the tablets. The only other thing is the Sumerians mistook a mothership for a planet. A large mothership in orbit around the Earth would be visible to the people below and shine like a planet and not a star.

then where would the mother ship be from?

That is a good question. Some (Robert Temple) speculate Sirius C (a red dwarf), others suggest other stars from around here (Pleiades is another one I hear a lot). It is possible they may have had slower ships back then but now are capable of faster than light speeds (or wormhole travel).

With new discoveries and ideas of what type of stars can support life (red dwarfs are now thought of as being ideal now), the list is very high as to where Nibiru mother ship came from.

[coomba98]

Can someone point me to an ancient Mesopotamian script/text that speaks of Nibiru the planet.
I have read many many texts but cannot find this planet or place Nibiru.

Nibiru
Word meaning, of course, is determined by context. “Nibiru” (more technically and properly transliterated as “neberu”) can mean several things.

“place of crossing” or “crossing fee” – In the Gilgamesh epic, for example, we read the line

* “Straight is the crossing point (nibiru; a gateway), and narrow is the way that leads to it.”

* A geographical name in one Sumero-Akkadian text, a village, is named “Ne-bar-ti-Ash-shur” (meaning:> “Crossing Point of Asshur”).

* Another text dealing with the fees for a boatman who ferries people across the water notes that the passenger paid “shiqil kaspum sha ne-bi-ri-tim” (meaning:> “silver for the crossing fees”).

* “ferry, ford”; “ferry boat”; “(act of) ferrying” – For example, one Akkadian text refers to a military enemy, the Arameans: “A-ra-mu nakirma bab ni-bi-ri sha GN itsbat”
(meaning:> “The Arameans were defiant and took up a position at the entrance to the ford [gate, crossing point]”).

* In another, the Elamites are said to “ina ID Abani ni-bi-ru u-cha-du-u” (meaning:> “[to] have cut off the ford [bridge, crossing way] of the river Abani”).

I think the “root idea” of the nibiru word group and its forms as meaning something with respect to “crossing” is clear.

If one wants to know what Nibiru as an astronomical body is - according to the Mesopotamians - one is dependent on proper original texts, unless, like some authors, one makes up meanings to prop up a theory.
( Having said that, we all create theories to fill in the gapes that requires imagination, so its not that big of a deal, especially when said theories are very believable it could very well be true! )

One either lets the texts tell you what Nibiru is, or one willfully ignores the scribes in favor of the theories of others.

I have, in these cases, given
(a) the Mesopotamian text where the word occurs;
(b) a Sumero-Akkadian transliteration;
(c) a brief translation;

Their is 'NO' texts that say that the Anunnaki or Anunna came from Nibiru or a place called Nibiru. Just the Heavens. Which back then was the sky or Universe.
No text speaks of a rogue planet in our solar system nor are their any Mesopotamian scripts that state this. Whether its Mesopotamian, Egyption, South American
and known Indian ( to me anyway ) text speak of a rogue planet.

Nibiru just means 'place of the crossing' or the like. As in my examples above.

Although one thing does get me thinking about the Nibiru theory Sitchin brings up and thats the asteriod belt. I am curious to know why this body/ies of rocks, water and other minerals are going the opposite
direction around the sun than the planets. Did Nibiru cause this? Well then we have to go back to the question of what Nibiru is.... and their is as above, no evidence of Nibiru as being a planet that caused this.
Only theories brought up by known knowledge by said thinker coupled with the great imagination we all have and has possesed for the last 250,000 years.

I do also think that as an ancient man, we had the same intelligence that we, homo-sapians have today ( proved by science ). Its only that we now have the knowledge of the Gods......lol.
If man had the intelligence then we had the same capacity for imagination. Maybe the stories of the Gods are just that, stories that then turned real after afew generations or 100 or 1,000 years.
I still think this is possible, but then i see some ancient artifact or construction and think, naaa we needed help. Thats the brain fart in all this, we just dont know what we need to know. and thats the truth.

My hands now hurting. be back soon.

[upperworld]

Dont mean to burst anyones bubble, can someone point me to an ancient Mesopotamian script/text that speaks of Nibiru the planet.
I have read many many texts but cannot find this planet or place Nibiru.

Nibiru
Word meaning, of course, is determined by context. “Nibiru” (more technically and properly transliterated as “neberu”) can mean several things.

“place of crossing” or “crossing fee” – In the Gilgamesh epic, for example, we read the line

* “Straight is the crossing point (nibiru; a gateway), and narrow is the way that leads to it.”

Excellent post Coomba, the last line there referring to a "gateway" is very interesting. Think for a moment, could Nibiru have simply meant the wormhole itself, a sort of stargate if you will? This is going to get real sci-fi but think about it, send the Death Star through a wormhole. Now we have a Nibiru in the form of a gateway, and a Nibiru in the form of a giant orbiting "planet" in the sky. The primitive humans would surely be confused by this concept and attribute Nibiru to the latter because they could see it with their own eyes. The story of Tiamat Marduk, and Kingu could still be relevant and passed on to us but actually just be a history lesson for us to have some insight on our galaxy's formation, not a recent account of galactic turmoil by which the Annunaki came to Earth. None of what i have just written is (to the best of my knowledge) anywhere in the Enuma Elish or Z.S.'s books, it is just a weird spin i put on things when trying to justify Nibiru's existence. The bottom line is we can't rule out any theory regarding Nibiru other than it being a conventional planet in our solar system on an eclectic orbit. Think of Schrodinger's cat, given what we know, Nibiru is both a spaceship and a figment of our imagination...but what happens when we look in the box?

[coomba98]

A gateway could also mean a doorway or something explainable in construction terms. Or geological. Or spiritual.

Or a wormhole that takes you to an alternative universe where you get to meet yourself and say....'hi'. lol ( no pun )

We just dont know. Would be good to have been born afew hundred years from now. if we survive that long!.

[Polaris]

I vote Nibiru is a planet and Sitchin's literal interpretation of the Enuma Elish hits the nail right on the head.
Just as Erich von Danekin's literal interpretation of the Bible, opened the gates to the Ancient Alien Theorum (AAT).
And that is why we are all here... right?

While I have different opinions on Sitchin's interpretation of what happened thereafter, can we for the sake of building the story, start from here.
In short... at the beginning our Sun began, then its planets began to coalesce, according to Newtonian physics...
A frozen ice planet with several moons, was hurtling through space and got caught up in our sun's gravitational pull
the end result that modern science can describe is here: http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/
Of note are the axial tilts of the planets, because in a perfect solar system the "axial tilt" of each planet would be 0 degrees, or close to Mercury's.

Newtonian physics also says there should be equidistance among the inner rocky planets,
Modern science measures quite a discrepancy (see "distance from the sun).
Here is a 'birds eye view' of Astroidia: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/WISE/ ... 12469.html, a 3-D version would be uber-complex... Between Mars and Jupiter there is room for another planet (Nibiru).
If you can't see the gap, go back and imagine no asteroid belt... there is room! (for more than a ship)

Before I describe further, can we agree on the above??

[coomba98]

Polaris,

Knowhere in ancient text is Nibiru a planet. Sumerian or other. I must admit im a Sumarian freak. I read alot of their scripts.
But not alot of fringe authors opinions like Sitchin. As much as I like him.

I must re-iterate the meaning of the word 'Nibiru' in factual, scientific, and todays reality or interpritation.

Nibiru
Word meaning, of course, is determined by context. “Nibiru” (more technically and properly transliterated as “neberu”) can mean several things.

“place of crossing” or “crossing fee” – In the Gilgamesh epic, for example, we read the line

* “Straight is the crossing point (nibiru; a gateway), and narrow is the way that leads to it.”

* A geographical name in one Sumero-Akkadian text, a village, is named “Ne-bar-ti-Ash-shur” (meaning:> “Crossing Point of Asshur”).

* Another text dealing with the fees for a boatman who ferries people across the water notes that the passenger paid “shiqil kaspum sha ne-bi-ri-tim” (meaning:> “silver for the crossing fees”).

* “ferry, ford”; “ferry boat”; “(act of) ferrying” – For example, one Akkadian text refers to a military enemy, the Arameans: “A-ra-mu nakirma bab ni-bi-ri sha GN itsbat”
(meaning:> “The Arameans were defiant and took up a position at the entrance to the ford [gate, crossing point]”).

* In another, the Elamites are said to “ina ID Abani ni-bi-ru u-cha-du-u” (meaning:> “[to] have cut off the ford [bridge, crossing way] of the river Abani”).

I think the “root idea” of the nibiru word group and its forms as meaning something with respect to “crossing” is clear.

If one wants to know what Nibiru as an astronomical body is - according to the Mesopotamians - one is dependent on proper original texts, unless, like some authors, one makes up meanings to prop up a theory.
( Having said that, we all create theories to fill in the gapes that requires imagination, so its not that big of a deal, especially when said theories are very believable it could very well be true! )

One either lets the texts tell you what Nibiru is, or one willfully ignores the scribes in favor of the theories of others.

I have, in these cases, given
(a) the Mesopotamian text where the word occurs;
(b) a Sumero-Akkadian transliteration;
(c) a brief translation;

Their is 'NO' texts that say that the Anunnaki or Anunna came from Nibiru or a place called Nibiru. Just the Heavens. Which back then was the sky or Universe.
No text speaks of a rogue planet in our solar system nor are their any Mesopotamian scripts that state this. Whether its Mesopotamian, Egyption, South American
and known Indian ( to me anyway ) text speak of a rogue planet.

Nibiru just means 'place of the crossing' or the like. As in my examples above.

[Polaris]

Polaris,

Knowhere in ancient text is Nibiru a planet. Sumerian or other. I must admit im a Sumarian freak. I read alot of their scripts.
But not alot of fringe authors opinions like Sitchin. As much as I like him.

I must re-iterate the meaning of the word 'Nibiru' in factual, scientific, and todays reality or interpritation.

Nibiru
Word meaning, of course, is determined by context. “Nibiru” (more technically and properly transliterated as “neberu”) can mean several things.

“place of crossing” or “crossing fee” – In the Gilgamesh epic, for example, we read the line

* “Straight is the crossing point (nibiru; a gateway), and narrow is the way that leads to it.”

* A geographical name in one Sumero-Akkadian text, a village, is named “Ne-bar-ti-Ash-shur” (meaning:> “Crossing Point of Asshur”).

* Another text dealing with the fees for a boatman who ferries people across the water notes that the passenger paid “shiqil kaspum sha ne-bi-ri-tim” (meaning:> “silver for the crossing fees”).

* “ferry, ford”; “ferry boat”; “(act of) ferrying” – For example, one Akkadian text refers to a military enemy, the Arameans: “A-ra-mu nakirma bab ni-bi-ri sha GN itsbat”
(meaning:> “The Arameans were defiant and took up a position at the entrance to the ford [gate, crossing point]”).

* In another, the Elamites are said to “ina ID Abani ni-bi-ru u-cha-du-u” (meaning:> “[to] have cut off the ford [bridge, crossing way] of the river Abani”).

I think the “root idea” of the nibiru word group and its forms as meaning something with respect to “crossing” is clear.

If one wants to know what Nibiru as an astronomical body is - according to the Mesopotamians - one is dependent on proper original texts, unless, like some authors, one makes up meanings to prop up a theory.
( Having said that, we all create theories to fill in the gaps that requires imagination, so its not that big of a deal, especially when said theories are very believable it could very well be true! )

One either lets the texts tell you what Nibiru is, or one willfully ignores the scribes in favor of the theories of others.

I have, in these cases, given
(a) the Mesopotamian text where the word occurs;
(b) a Sumero-Akkadian transliteration;
(c) a brief translation;

Their is 'NO' texts that say that the Anunnaki or Anunna came from Nibiru or a place called Nibiru. Just the Heavens. Which back then was the sky or Universe.
No text speaks of a rogue planet in our solar system nor are their any Mesopotamian scripts that state this. Whether its Mesopotamian, Egyption, South American
and known Indian ( to me anyway ) text speak of a rogue planet.

Nibiru just means 'place of the crossing' or the like. As in my examples above.

Kudos on your research and finding examples of where the word Nibiru appears in Sumerian cuniform writings.
Sitchin tackles this issue quite extensively and I agree with his analysis. If an astronomer wants to describe a planet, its perihelion is one of the orbital properties and quite reasonably the term Place of the Crossing could be the Sumerian equivalent. Also words in English carry many different meanings and your research bears this out for ancient times, Nibiru has many different meanings, even in the limited text that Sumerian archaeologists have been able to find.

Another planetary property would be its orbital period or its periodicity. Sitchin wrongly concludes that Nibiru's periodicity to be 3600 gregorian years. If I recall his reasons why, he says 3600 shows up in many, many, many clay tablets and was a very important count in their calendrics and therefore it must be its orbital period. He then uses the 3600 year count in other calculations, like the lifespan of the Annunaki and their half-breed children. One critical place he uses his 3600 year count is in Greek writings that describes the reign of kings before the flood.

What I find incredulous is how mainstream science absolutely dismisses Sitchin's literal interpretation of the EE, yet they have accepted his postulation that the 3600 that shows up so frequently in cuniform, refers to years. It shows up everywhere I look!!! And it is "quoted like the bible". http://www.livius.org/k/kinglist/sumerian.html

The reason I say that is because Sumerian cuniform numbering refers only to Sar and Ner and not Years - someone did the conversion!!!! http://www.livius.org/fa-fn/flood/flood ... ossus.html - this link shows in 53 "120 saroi or 432,000 years".

[coomba98]

Polaris,

Im a Sitchin fan as well. He is what got me into Sumerians. I agree with some of his works but he has alot of imaginative elaboration.
Not that I completely disagree with him sometimes its abit off track. Like the gold thing, or Nibiru. Still interesting researcher.

I do not disagree that we could have missed a planetary body out their. But I do not believe anything Sitching states about Nibiru. As this
is not supported by the ancient texts. ( True ancient texts not made up ones and written like it was real )

I do agree with you that scientists should listen more to fringe theorists like Sitchin and the like as more heads in the pot the better.

[Polaris]

Polaris, ...

I do not disagree that we could have missed a planetary body out their. But I do not believe anything Sitching states about Nibiru. As this is not supported by the ancient texts. ( True ancient texts not made up ones and written like it was real )

I do agree with you that scientists should listen more to fringe theorists like Sitchin and the like as more heads in the pot the better.

Your doubt and need for definitive proof (in ancient writing) of the existence of planet Nibiru is what most skeptics continue to hold dear... and most of what is out there, in the public domain, is a plethora of circumstantial evidence.

Some of the most compelling evidence as recorded on their clay tablets, document their astronomy and astrology...for instance:
- I think you can agree that Sumerians knew and wrote about precession of the equinoxes and they created 12 signs to describe which one they are in - agreed?

[coomba98]

Yes I agree the Sumerians knew the Zodic. But neither of the 12 houses has the planet Nibiru nor is their any mention of this planet
in ancient texts. Nibiru is one of the things Sitchin made up to help support his theory. Nothing wrong with that as we all do it so its
all a matter of sorting through what is fact and what is fiction.

Apart from Sichins work where else is Nibiru mentioned? Not evidence of opinion.

[Moon]

I am also a fan of Mr Sitchin, but I agree with Coomba98 on this one. I do think Mr Sitchin gets ignored by many in the AAT on his other discoveries of mysterious artifacts out there. I do think he has done a lot of great research in this field that has enhanced the theories out there.

But I do think Nibiru was a mothership as it was visible by many other peoples besides the Sumerians. Nibiru is possibly the ship that the Nommo took to check out the Earth and help us with our technologies. I also think they made contact thousands of years earlier when there was a former great civilization on Earth and were stunned to see it gone. They helped to jumpstart us again, but it did take a while for us to hit our stride. I think Mr Sitchin, Herr von Daniken and Mr Hancock are all correct on their theories for the most part. The information all of them have garnered do give us a small look at what possibly happened in our distant past.

[Polaris]

Thus the first piece of circumstantial evidence are numerics and the number 12, ie., the planets* in the system, the zodiac, Greek Gods, Roman Gods, and then linked to the calendar...
Planet, Zodiac, Greek, Roman, Time
Mercury, Aries, Hermes, Mercury, March
Venus, Pisces, Aphrodite, Venus, April
Earth, Aqurius, Apollo, Apollo, May
Moon, Capricorn, Athena, Minerva, June
Mars, Sagittarius, Ares, Mars, July
Nibiru, Scorpio, Hera, Juno, August
Astroidia*, Libra, Dionysus, Liber, September
Jupiter, Virgo, Zeus, Jupiter, October
Saturn, Leo, Artemis, Diana, November
Uranus, Cancer, Demeter, Ceres, December
Neptune, Gemini, Poseiden, Neptune, January
Pluto, Taurus, Hephaestus, Vulcan, February
Because greek and roman gods are copies of Sumerian text, I am sure there were 12 sumerian gods...

* remains of a planet that orbit its Sun in the opposite direction of the other planets (all of them!),
For the asteroid belt to have been created as it exists, Newtonian physics requires the introduction of a force going in that direction, (opposite in this case). Logically it would have to be of planetary proportions..., Marduk, its moons and Tiamet... evidence of the battle is here, check this out: http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/ , especially the axial tilts - Astroidia was a planet.

and the evidence coomba98 seeks is written in cuniform, albeit in a differnt name - the Enuma Elish when taken truly and literally is a revelation, to borrow a phrase Marduk would be its creation-play name and Nibiru its given name (by its people - the Annunaki), earth's other 4 races will likely reference it differently,

If the above doesn't convince you, that those 12's are the same and the EE describes the creation of our solar system,

I suggest we follow Abraham's advice and look to the stars for (more) clues....

When the Ancient Aliens gave earthlings their earth-centric calendar, their advice would have included "this calendar with its count of 1,872,000 days will give you the timeframe needed to predict any and all planetary events, especially those that have a globally impact..., like recurring tsunamis, ice ages, nearing asteroids and their showers, events that can wreck havoc and wipe out all life in low-lying areas like fertile river deltas...keep track of the count of days and prepare for those recurring globally changing events and survive..."

- how about the astronomical significance of The Place of the Crossing (PC) as where the two orbital planes intersect, our solar and its, (Sitchin found a reference - in cuniform script and tied it to Noah's tsunami).

- given that the maya were excellent time keepers and their 1,872,000 day calendar was developed and is used to track recurring planetary events through their orbital periods, that would be a good place to look - and again Sitchin found a reference...

[DivineQueer]

I am also a fan of Mr Sitchin, but I agree with Coomba98 on this one. I do think Mr Sitchin gets ignored by many in the AAT on his other discoveries of mysterious artifacts out there. I do think he has done a lot of great research in this field that has enhanced the theories out there.

But I do think Nibiru was a mothership as it was visible by many other peoples besides the Sumerians. Nibiru is possibly the ship that the Nommo took to check out the Earth and help us with our technologies. I also think they made contact thousands of years earlier when there was a former great civilization on Earth and were stunned to see it gone. They helped to jumpstart us again, but it did take a while for us to hit our stride. I think Mr Sitchin, Herr von Daniken and Mr Hancock are all correct on their theories for the most part. The information all of them have garnered do give us a small look at what possibly happened in our distant past.

Sometimes I have wondered if it is possible that Nibiru could have been one of those two(Of three) "Giant cities" that is described in the Mahabharata, that was stationed in orbit circling the Earth. Of these three, one was "placed in Heaven" and the other in Space, in an constant orbit.
Further, these "Cities" was called so because they were HUGE, and truly were like minor cities, with buildings, roads, vegetation and numerous inhabitants. And it was also to and from these cities that a large part of the Vimanas was travelling, and it was described that inside those cities, there were thousands of Vimanas constantly flying around.

It would make much sense if those "cities" would have been percieved as a "Heavenly abodes" for ancient people, as it, after all, truly were.

[Inquiring Mind]

Nibiru may be the Moon:

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=145588

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/is-moon-re ... 13368.html

[Moon]

Sometimes I have wondered if it is possible that Nibiru could have been one of those two(Of three) "Giant cities" that is described in the Mahabharata, that was stationed in orbit circling the Earth. Of these three, one was "placed in Heaven" and the other in Space, in an constant orbit.
Further, these "Cities" was called so because they were HUGE, and truly were like minor cities, with buildings, roads, vegetation and numerous inhabitants. And it was also to and from these cities that a large part of the Vimanas was travelling, and it was described that inside those cities, there were thousands of Vimanas constantly flying around.

It would make much sense if those "cities" would have been percieved as a "Heavenly abodes" for ancient people, as it, after all, truly were.

That does make sense and it could be the object seen and recorded by many ancient peoples around the world. They could of used the huge cities to live in while they studied our planet.

[Cammi2012]

agreed!

[Don Morace]

Hi Folks,Don here.Cammi pick up a copy of'Genesis Revisited' and read the last chapter.It may enlighten you further in your pursuit.Don out..................

[Nostalgia]

I just had a quick question, Where is it that you guys are reading these ancient Sumerian texts? Im eager to read them myself and was wondering if anyone has any links or can direct me to anything.

[Moon]

I just had a quick question, Where is it that you guys are reading these ancient Sumerian texts? Im eager to read them myself and was wondering if anyone has any links or can direct me to anything.

Here are a few links to start you off:

http://www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk/

http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/mes ... gilgamesh/

http://www.virtualsecrets.com/sumerian.html

http://www.ping.de/sites/systemcoder/ne ... merian.htm

These are done by the mainstream archeologists but are very good to start with.

[amyrene33]

You may all find this completely absurd and forgive me for ignorance as I am apparantly the only the only member not to have read Sitchin or Von Daniken but my minimal research leads me to conclude that perhaps Earth itself is the crossing point or.. the nibiru. It looks as though there was another very large planet in our suns orbit but in our history there are reports of many "heavenly" visitors from many other worlds and at times they have even gone to war over our peoples and planet in our skies visible in our historic artworks and writings, angel demon so on but we may very well be the crossroads between many worlds, the GAS STATION or vacation spot and traversing this galaxy into this solar system would prove "a narrow way" and it seems the most logical explanation to me for many reasons but especially since I can see no proof otherwise of any other logical explanation for the ferry/crossroads NIBIRU

[Polaris]

Sometimes I have wondered if it is possible that Nibiru could have been one of those two(Of three) "Giant cities" that is described in the Mahabharata, that was stationed in orbit circling the Earth. Of these three, one was "placed in Heaven" and the other in Space, in an constant orbit.
Further, these "Cities" was called so because they were HUGE, and truly were like minor cities, with buildings, roads, vegetation and numerous inhabitants. And it was also to and from these cities that a large part of the Vimanas was travelling, and it was described that inside those cities, there were thousands of Vimanas constantly flying around.

It would make much sense if those "cities" would have been percieved as a "Heavenly abodes" for ancient people, as it, after all, truly were.

That does make sense and it could be the object seen and recorded by many ancient peoples around the world. They could of used the huge cities to live in while they studied our planet.

Come on guys... it is apparent that for whatever reason, you are all in a state of denial, first it's a ship - a very big one, then it's mega-cities... while I agree with you on our religious texts' veracity regarding the existence of Ancient Alien ships and cities, it is not much more of a leap for them to be from or on another planet that orbits the sun.

Just need more ancient evidence...

[Moon]

Come on guys... it is apparent that for whatever reason, you are all in a state of denial, first it's a ship - a very big one, then it's mega-cities... while I agree with you on our religious texts' veracity regarding the existence of Ancient Alien ships and cities, it is not much more of a leap for them to be from or on another planet that orbits the sun.

Just need more ancient evidence...

The mothership idea can also mean a large city in the sky. We have aircraft carriers that are considered cities of the sea as thousands of men and women serving aboard have everything they need to live there including stores and a large theater. The same thing can be applied to extraterrestrials who would have a huge city/ship they would live on for a long period of time while they did their work here.

It is not copping out taking both views of it being a mothership and a city in the sky.

[AnuAtlantian]

Just wanted to make a point about the enuma elish,- 7 tablets of creation, or epic of creation.
The planets told as names of gods, marduk as the planet nibiru.
hamered bracelet as now the asteroid belt.
after the battle the new name Nibir or what ever it is spelled with leters starting nib in the 5th tablet cannot be disputed its there.
named crossing and the symbol of the cross like a plus sign is also - nibiru
as a 10th planet that crosses near the asteriod belt is the main theory spoken.
called 12th planet because counting the sun and earths moon and the 10 planets(yes pluto9 and nibiru10.
these are what sitchin has put forth and more to make it seen in our spaceage time to understand it.
just like we now understand what means, celestial chariot, or pillar of fire.

[Cammi2012]

Hi Folks,Don here.Cammi pick up a copy of'Genesis Revisited' and read the last chapter.It may enlighten you further in your pursuit.Don out..................

I just so happen to have that book, Don!!!