vmatt2000 wrote:Where did they come from?
There are many suggestions on where they came from, including our planet, other planets, other solar systems, other galaxies, other universes, and even other dimensions. None can be disproven since the aliens themselves cannot be proven.
vmatt2000 wrote:ok, these ancient guys are supposedly human like, which means they must have come from other earth like planets. There may be several earth like planets in the Universe. Looks like they came in what looked like modern day space ships. At the rate of 20,000 miles an hour, you could travel from earth to pluto in 20 years. With the newest probe New Horizons from NASA, it may take 10 years.
20,000 mph is the escape velocity speed the Space Shuttle reaches to leave Earth's gravity (well actually ~25,000 mph). I'm unaware of any of the AAT evidence suggesting that ancient astronauts traveled in Space Shuttle type vehicles to our planet. Furthermore, you are assuming that these aliens level of technology was on par with what ours is today. In all reality, it would have had to have been far greater; this is one of those things that has to be taken for granted if you are looking to validate the AAT.
vmatt2000 wrote:So, these human like forms should spend at least 20 years coming to earth and going back to their planet, if another earth existed in our solar system. Since there is no other earth in our solar system, it is reasonable to assume that they are from even farther earth like planets, making it even longer than 20 years to go back and forth.
Assuming these human like forms have a limited life span, why would anybody spend 20-30 years of their life time to come to earth and go back?
We don't know the lifespan of these life forms. It could be hundreds or thousands of years. Maybe longer. Perhaps they do not experience physical death as we do. When pursuing the AAT truth, it's not necessary to understand how long they lived, or if it was prudent for them to travel to our planet. Likewise, since we know very little about them, we can't begin to understand their motivation for coming, nor for leaving.
vmatt2000 wrote:Also, why do we not see anything from THEIR world, and only things from OUR world DEPICTING what earthians saw?
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this, but I'm assuming you are asking why we don't find any ancient alien artifacts lying around. It is possible that the ancient alien visitors came to our world with very little other than their spaceships (which they took with them when they left). They might have had a few tools, but probably guarded them closely because they would have been extremely valuable and necessary for their survival during their stay on our planet. They most likely took advantage of the resources on the planet while here, thus we find only those things from our world. Some argue that objects such as the pyramids are actually ancient alien structures that have purposes which we simply overlook because we cannot fully comprehend their intended purpose.
vmatt2000 wrote:How could they have communicated with people thousands of years ago, assuming they were far advanced and we were very primitive? How many people speak sumerian or aramaic now? Languages are lost over time. Not only that, try talking light year to a 3 year old, how would the ancient astronauts even make our primitives UNDERSTAND science?
How does a deaf man learn to write (and speak!)? How did the Spanish teach the Mayans and Aztec their language? How do you learn English when you are growing up? It would be no harder for an advanced alien race to come and teach primitive humans the knowledge of language. Likewise, upon gaining the ability to intercommunicate, we would quickly advance technologically, which is exactly what happened. Whether language was given to us by aliens or by our own invention, it is evident that it spurred a technological boom.
Lastly, if history and religion teaches us anything, it is that our ancestors didn't understand science. Whether or not the aliens attempted to teach our ancestors science is up for debate. All we know is that our ancestors perceived these acts as magic, and thus, developed a fear of these "gods".
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Hello Vmatt, i am new here but would like to comment on your post. I believe it is a missconception when people bring up distances, we always talk about what "WE" can and cannot do. Your arguments are sound and one can question as you have done, "How can they traverse such distances". Machio Kaku came up with a theory that they in fact could well be nomadic either by nature or maybe they escaped a dying planet, if that is so, then, in theory by being say, 1 million years more advanced then they would have the means to traverse the huge distances over a millenia, generation after generation. Remember we do not know all there is to know about Physics, maybe we will when we have cracked the theory of everythign, so call String Theory, maybe the AA already have. Regarding how they communicated, well one way would be for the AA's to look how the "natives" at the time communicated with each other and advanced on that. A theory at most. I believe they did teach us science, would not of happened overnight but over hundreds of years maybe. One thing that does bother me though, this is not directed at yourself.. Sceptics say we should give the ancients more credit for their mammoth building tasks instead of saying they had help from extraterrestrials, in other words our ancestors were smart and intelligent, i agree they were but when it comes to our ancestors painting or writing down what today looks like ancient astronauts, strange craft in the skies etc then it is classed as myth and they were not that smart after all, when infact they were, they knew what they saw and recorded it as art and in stone.
Here we can see the Kardashev scale on the different types of civilizations out there, if i am correct this is also based on the Drake Equation, if i am wrong please correct me.
Type 1, 2, & 3 Civilizations
Type I – this civilization harnesses the energy output of an entire planet.
Type II – this civilization harnesses the energy output of a star, and generates about 10 billion times the energy output of a Type I civilization.
Type III – this civilization harnesses the energy output of a galaxy, or about 10 billion time the energy output of a Type II civilization.
A Type I civilization would be able to manipulate truly planetary energies. They might, for example, control or modify their weather. They would have the power to manipulate planetary phenomena, such as hurricanes, which can release the energy of hundreds of hydrogen bombs. Perhaps volcanoes or even earthquakes may be altered by such a civilization.
A Type II civilization may resemble the Federation of Planets seen on the TV program Star Trek (which is capable of igniting stars and has colonized a tiny fraction of the near-by stars in the galaxy). A Type II civilization might be able to manipulate the power of solar flares.
A Type III civilization may resemble the Borg, or perhaps the Empire found in the Star Wars saga. They have colonized the galaxy itself, extracting energy from hundreds of billions of stars.
By contrast, we are a Type 0 civilization, which extracts its energy from dead plants (oil and coal). Growing at the average rate of about 3% per year, however, one may calculate that our own civilization may attain Type I status in about 100-200 years, Type II status in a few thousand years, and Type III status in about 100,000 to a million years. These time scales are insignificant when compared with the universe itself.
On this scale, one may now rank the different propulsion systems available to different types of civilizations:
EM propulsion (rail guns)
Ram-jet fusion engines
Von Neumann nano probes
Planck energy propulsion
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