Why the Ancient Astronaut theory may not be right

[Sunrisepony]

Here's some pretty interesting articles on the Annunaki
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/anunnaki/1-anunnaki-main.html

I need to find this other one I was just reading, but basically they were the overseers apparently, now though there was a different race, a purer one. And, the Annunaki were supposed to be combining DNA from them and the earth creatures, but instead one of them decided to take DNA from The Ancients and from the other Annunaki and created humans instead. But, the article also explained the likely origins of all kinds of Mythos creatures, etc. So much for not saving ALL of my links. Lol. I'll post it here when I find it though because I think you'll enjoy reading it. Maybe others will too.

ETA: I found it. Check it out here;
10,500BC Who Lived On Earth?
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles28.htm

[theseeker189]

What I came to believe is you not only need to look at ancient times but medevil times as well, that's when kings and such started to reign and that was when the anunnaki started to leave or started to disappear; if this was from human alien wars or if this was just what happened.

They supposely made us to help them mine gold for their planets atmosphere and they became fond of us and then the creator of all appeared when they where going to kill us off, and told them we were beings as well. So in short started to show us/teach us. Then when we were able to provide for ourselves and able to advance on our own, they left us.

Now I believe some stayed behind, and some left. So if this is the case, even dating back to the sumarains one rotation around the sun hasn't even happened for their planet. Unless they are from a different solar system, but even when they found Pluto they said that this wasn't the planet that was causing the gravity pulls they say from Neptune and uranus, and even Pluto showed signs of gravitational pulls from a much larger object.

Now, if we could find the planet that they came from then it may confirm all this. I don't know why we haven't found it since Pluto you'd think they could use the same formulas that found Pluto!

[Sunrisepony]

Maybe they don't want to admit there are more planets in our solar system then what we've already got, there were originally 12 or 13 planets, and the Asteroid Belt was a Planet, and Venus was a moon of Uranus. But, didn't they just say something recently about another planet being just beyond Pluto?

[Bob137]

OUT IN THE Oort Cloud area, they believe they may have found what is pulling on the planets, it is a red star, and it may have planets, or moons rotating around it, and you never know maybe one of those planets, or moons has the Anunnaki living on it, or maybe they once lived there.

[Sunrisepony]

Maybe the Annunaki are an inter-dimensional species. I can't remember which of the two, but either Enlil or Eniki's Tomb is on Mars. And, Bob, there is another planet/planetoid NASA admits to this one, exist just beyond Pluto. That is part of our solar system.

[Bob137]

Yes I know of that one also. I am just reporting what I read about astronomers finding another Sun, it may mean our solar system is a binary sun system, which is more the norm of the Universe say astronomers, than singular sun systems, but I still am not sure on there being more Binary systems than singular ones, but I thought I would put that out there anyway.

[Sunrisepony]

Yes I know of that one also. I am just reporting what I read about astronomers finding another Sun, it may mean our solar system is a binary sun system, which is more the norm of the Universe say astronomers, than singular sun systems, but I still am not sure on there being more Binary systems than singular ones, but I thought I would put that out there anyway.

I've heard so many different theories and views etc on the whole Binary thing, I don't know which way is up with that one. Some sources say there is a second sun just 'behind' our central sun. Then there's the one that's out in the Ort cloud, but is that even part of our solar system? Then I was just reading something else that says when this system reaches 5th or 6th dimension density that Jupiter turns into a Blue Star. And, there is the one about the Brown Dwarf that is still coming but was some how delayed do to other things. I'm still trying to sort that all out and figure out which one is right. It's like the more I read and research, the more of my "memories" come back to me from past lives/soul incarnations and then I focus on those memories and analyze it on a 3-D level looking at all sides and the memories expand and more knowledge and information comes flooding in. It's a lot to sort out, and that is how I end up knowing what's right and what isn't. The recognition is incredible when it happens.

[Moon]

What I came to believe is you not only need to look at ancient times but medevil times as well, that's when kings and such started to reign and that was when the anunnaki started to leave or started to disappear; if this was from human alien wars or if this was just what happened.

The divine right of kings goes back to ancient rule and not the Medieval Times as the Egyptian Pharaohs and Sumerian Kings had absolute power. It is difficult to know when this type of rule started to happen, but it is very ancient.

They supposely made us to help them mine gold for their planets atmosphere and they became fond of us and then the creator of all appeared when they where going to kill us off, and told them we were beings as well. So in short started to show us/teach us. Then when we were able to provide for ourselves and able to advance on our own, they left us.

Now I believe some stayed behind, and some left. So if this is the case, even dating back to the sumarains one rotation around the sun hasn't even happened for their planet. Unless they are from a different solar system, but even when they found Pluto they said that this wasn't the planet that was causing the gravity pulls they say from Neptune and uranus, and even Pluto showed signs of gravitational pulls from a much larger object.

Now, if we could find the planet that they came from then it may confirm all this. I don't know why we haven't found it since Pluto you'd think they could use the same formulas that found Pluto!

There is now a search for a gas giant with the name Tyche temporarily assigned to it (although it might become permanent) which is believed to be much larger than Jupiter. Its alleged orbit is way beyond that of Pluto and Neptune and it does not approach the planet Earth.

[theseeker189]

What I came to believe is you not only need to look at ancient times but medevil times as well, that's when kings and such started to reign and that was when the anunnaki started to leave or started to disappear; if this was from human alien wars or if this was just what happened.

The divine right of kings goes back to ancient rule and not the Medieval Times as the Egyptian Pharaohs and Sumerian Kings had absolute power. It is difficult to know when this type of rule started to happen, but it is very ancient.

They supposely made us to help them mine gold for their planets atmosphere and they became fond of us and then the creator of all appeared when they where going to kill us off, and told them we were beings as well. So in short started to show us/teach us. Then when we were able to provide for ourselves and able to advance on our own, they left us.

Now I believe some stayed behind, and some left. So if this is the case, even dating back to the sumarains one rotation around the sun hasn't even happened for their planet. Unless they are from a different solar system, but even when they found Pluto they said that this wasn't the planet that was causing the gravity pulls they say from Neptune and uranus, and even Pluto showed signs of gravitational pulls from a much larger object.

Now, if we could find the planet that they came from then it may confirm all this. I don't know why we haven't found it since Pluto you'd think they could use the same formulas that found Pluto!

There is now a search for a gas giant with the name Tyche temporarily assigned to it (although it might become permanent) which is believed to be much larger than Jupiter. Its alleged orbit is way beyond that of Pluto and Neptune and it does not approach the planet Earth.

I never even had that thought in my head about the ancient kings! Wow I was to busy thinking about castles!
And I've heard of this tyche planet. As I remember I gave up abit on that cause then a bunch of other planets came up such as glise as I remember it being called? And a few others; was this the one where the temps are 400+ degrees F and since the gravity is so strong it still has liquid water on it?

Maybe the Annunaki are an inter-dimensional species. I can't remember which of the two, but either Enlil or Eniki's Tomb is on Mars. And, Bob, there is another planet/planetoid NASA admits to this one, exist just beyond Pluto. That is part of our solar system.

There are some theories about the "arch" being a portal into another dimension, as far as my own opinion on dimensions is that there is as many as one could think of, an infinte number, it is how we access them and interact with them that makes them tricky.

And I'm very curious about what Curiosity will show us, I'm more than positive that there's a few tombs up there north of "the face" on mars!

[Sunrisepony]

That's one thing I've been learning a lot about lately, is Densities and dimensions. There are only 12 densities, just recently the 12th started forming. We're in 3rd Density currently and in the process of moving up into 4th/5th density. But, in the sense that you were talking and such. Yeah, to the best of my knowledge the Dimensions are Infinite and so are Universes. Our little 21 Trillion year old Universe isn't the only one out there. But, we have here in our own Universe alone about 100 trillion Galaxies. Then we've got Aquatic Species that breath water, other species out there that can breath in Ammonia and Hydrogen atmospheres. I think that's where a lot of astronomers and others are making mistakes, thinking all species HAVE to breath Oxygen atmospheres to survive. Such an assumption is very short sighted.

[Bob137]

I agree on the aliens breathing different atmospheres. Just because we do, does not mean all other species do. It also does not mean all other species need to drink water, or eat vegetation or are carnivores or not. There might be some that live off minerals, and gases. There might be some that are not carbon based. We really do not know what is out there, or what they all could be like. Some say they do through astral type projections, mediums, etc..., but that is still conjecture, not defined for scientific purposes, but I am not dismissing anyone here, just stating that we all have a lot to learn when it comes to our universe and dimensions, etc...

[Sunrisepony]

Not all contactees are done through astral, telepathy, or channeling. I think a deeper understanding is required before chalking it up to pure conjecture though. I know of one or two that have direct person to person contacts with Off Worlders, Alex Collier being one of them. He doesn't do channeling at all, just in person. Much more reliable form of contact. Which is why he is considered one of the most credible contactees out there. But, yeah I agree. There are so many systems and galaxies out there, it would be arrogant of humanity and through ego and not spirit to think only Oxygen is breathable to all species. I read that also once we reach 4th or 5th density, we don't actually have to eat food. But, we can. It's just not required for survival.

[Moon]

I agree on the aliens breathing different atmospheres. Just because we do, does not mean all other species do. It also does not mean all other species need to drink water, or eat vegetation or are carnivores or not. There might be some that live off minerals, and gases. There might be some that are not carbon based. We really do not know what is out there, or what they all could be like. Some say they do through astral type projections, mediums, etc..., but that is still conjecture, not defined for scientific purposes, but I am not dismissing anyone here, just stating that we all have a lot to learn when it comes to our universe and dimensions, etc...

I do think of all the entities encountered on Star Trek, where the producers would actually check out scientifically if such a being could exist. They could be energy based creatures or silicon based creatures as dealt also. It is also possible for creatures to have some type of antifreeze fluid going through their bodies enabling them to survive such low temperatures. They would probably think our planet is hostile to life as they know it.

When I think of life related to the AAT, I am thinking of creatures similar to us and our environment. That would rule out our gas giants and very cold moons in our solar system.

As for Tyche, it is going to take a while for them to search through all the images to find it. They have to detect movement of a very distant object through the hundreds of thousands of photos taken by the telescopes searching the skies for it.

[Sunrisepony]

Did you see the documentary on the sea creatures they found in the bottoms of the oceans, that lived in areas where the water was something like just below boiling? I think they even found them where the water temperatures were like 700 degrees or something. I don't remember the exact number but just like below it turning into a gas state. But, then the saline infused ocean water has a different boiling point than fresh water. And all those troglodyte species. There's greater extremes here being found than ever thought possible.

[Bob137]

I remember a science fiction book that was written by a scientist, (I do not remember his name, it was over 25 years ago), but the story had creatures that lived in the Suns of Solar systems, they actually were a gaseous form and flew with the solar storms in and around the sun. It was a very interesting read, If I remember right they were a plasma based creature. The minds of mankind can fathom many things, and within the universe, and multiple universes and dimension might be those things that are fathomed, and maybe even more!

[ARaelianView]

EVOLUTION VERSES SYNTHETIC BIOLOGY and it’s implications at ‘Ancient Aliens’ or what I call, advanced scientists from our past creating life as we know it…

Note: my interpretation is a little different from the genetic altercation of 'pre-existing' life on the planet, that many AA theoriests take, I believe ALL life on this planet to have been created in stages by our ancient, mysterious and scientifically advanced friends.

This is real funny if you think about it.

I have studied Evolution for close to fifty years now. In fact I was an avid proponent for Evolution for many of those years. Here’s my story.

On one hand we now have proof to Synthetic Biology and space flight, on the other hand, Evolution. I have long disregarded the Christian Creation story of a God creating the universe and then creating the Earth and all its life in seven days. I gave up any notion of Ghosts or spirits long ago for an understanding of what must be a mindset of everything being scientifically validated, thus I don’t prescribe to the horoscopes or superstitions or mysticism of any sort…

OK, back to my hands, in my left hand I fill it full with any evidence that supports Evolution and in my right hand I do the same for Synthetic Biology and in my Mind I hold any evidence for any other possibility that may exist, (I have an open mind to new evidence if ever presented)

Here comes the funny part, I always held evolution in high regards as having the evidence support the idea/stance. And many people do… But when I started looking and asking questions that could never be answered, I looked into why these questions could not be answered and here is what I found.

Ok, back to the right hand, I have mounting evidence that shows synthetic biology to fit real nicely into the slot that evolution has fit so nicely all these years. I started to find that this thing called synthetic biology started to fit too nicely and even fill many gaps that scientists either had no explanation for in evolutionary terms or no concrete evidence, just supposition… So here is what I soon found and it changed my thinking process from there afterwards…

In my left hand (evolution) I have no supporting evidence in the lab to abiogenesis.
in my right hand (synthetic biology) I do have evidence of creation of life through science by an intelligence presence.

? in my left, I have no physical evidence to ‘transition’ for evolution.
! in my right, I have evidence that synthetic biology can account for transition and be shown in the lab.

? in my left, assumption is the basis for evolution through drift and macro-evolution is something that is not a absolute but an educated guess (assumption) at best.
! in my right, synthetic biology can account and be shown to produce evidence to any stage of evolution and the fossil record, without any ‘assumptions’ except to the assumption of “WHO” the intelligent factor my be. (I say “WHO” because I believe there must be living, intelligent beings that practice the scientific methods to produce life through synthetic biology and not that some magical God that can snap his fingers and make life occur, even believers in a God say that it took ‘time’ for their gods to create things and this sounds more like living beings than gods to me)

? in my left hand, we only have evidence showing the diversity of living things to ‘adapt’ but we use ‘assumption’ to base adaptation into transition and there is no physical evidence showing such so-called drift and it is all based solely on ‘assumption’ that it must happen in a certain way only because evolution is thought of as being true…
! but if there is another stance to explain the fossil record then any assumption might not be as true as our assumption make evolution out to be so on the other hand, with synthetic biology, it can fully explain any transition record in the fossil record with evidence of such through scientific means. This can also show that explosions of life on this planet can be accounted for through biological means of synthetic biology as a possibility.

? So in the end, the hand that supports evolution is left holding many ‘assumptions’ of how evolution may have happened.
! but in the other hand, we have supporting evidence overflowing that shows that synthetic biology can not only account for creation but it can account for the evolving and diverse life and can account for the explosion of new and diverse life as found in the fossil record and is a continuing stance in that we as intelligent creatures can and will continue to create life through synthetic biology only in us knowing that we used synthetic biology and that any fossils left from our work, that any assumption in the evolution mindset will be fooled to the unknowing person of such a fossil record as ‘evolution’.

So when I started to find mounting ‘evidence’ that answered all the unanswered questions that I once thought of a ‘proven’ Theory of Evolution, then I started to see something emerge that might show a better reasoning behind the existence of life and the diverse range of life we see with evidence backing such a stance instead of ‘assumption’ as with the evolution backed theory. This didn’t prove a new theory, but synthetic biology shows more supporting evidence than the Theory of Evolution and when you look at evidence, then one has to reason with Occums Razor that the simplest explanation with the evidence backing it may be more ‘possible’.

Here’s the recap…

Evolution: assumption based evidence of abiogenesis.
Synthetic biology: evidence to creation of life through actual scientific work done in the lab.

? Evolution: assumption based evidence of marcro-evolutionary processes.
! Synthetic biology: physical evidence to macro-evolutionary processes by way of synthetic biology through actual scientific work done in the lab showing that it is a real possibility.

? Evolution: assumption that the fossil record ‘shows’ an evolutionary process.
! Synthetic biology: Can be shown that it can/will produce a fossil record that fits the fossil record we see and that it is a real possibility.

? Evolution: no evidence of it in the lab beyond adaptation (no 'natural' transitional evidence in the lab)
! Synthetic biology: Many instances of transitional evolution in the lab through genetic engineering and synthetic biology, the evidence is overwhelming…

You can take it for what its worth but in my mindset, I have since thrown out my ‘assuming beliefs’ in evolution and once you expel a biased mindset against a certain way of thinking then the evidence that shines through in the other ‘possibility’ soon shows itself in a brilliant light in a way that seems more scientific than the older way of thinking.

Again, I’m not saying Evolution is wrong, all I am saying is the evidence is overwhelming in synthetic biology that one has to wonder why it ‘fits’ so well especially when it’s a very good possibility that there are other scientists in the cosmos that may be on a level of genetic science and have interest in traveling through space as man has shown IS possible. Granted, we haven’t gone very far in space travel but we have shown that it IS possible and we have shown that synthetic biology IS possible and we have yet to show the absolute workings of an Evolutionary process to any extent beyond ‘assumption’…

In the end, if our ancestors did meet any advance scientist that claim that they themselves created us with only a handful of dirt, our primitive ancestors may have thought of these scientists as Gods, thus the many myths that create our religious sect of believers. Maybe these scientists did create life in the lab in just seven days. I know it takes only a matter of a few days to manipulate the genetics of something and to create a new diverse version of the original in which in the fossil record this would look like evolution… Just saying.

Anyways, this is just another possibility, is all but one that has ‘evidence’ backing its stance instead of ‘assumption’. That’s my story, whether it to be true is not the debate, it just shows but another ‘possibility’ that must be looked at because in science, we examine all the evidence and draw upon everything that shows up in an experiment and hold no bias one way or another, otherwise you are left with a bunch of flat-Earthers controlling the scientific stage.

Peace my friends…

[siren13]

Just reading all this made me stop for a second and think to all the science fiction and the stuff I have read over the years about the great "event" that caused mankind to forget who he was or is?

What if the aliens (what we refer to them as) lived here first and we invaded earth? Then some even caused us to forget? Perhaps a war with us- that it so devastated us we forgot what and who we were? So even though we see things in the sky what if they haven't interacted with us on a huge level because they are still scared of us?

Random thoughts again.. just makes me think.. WAY TOO DEEP

[Sunrisepony]

Well you're part right from what I have done research wise anyway, the aliens did live here first. Then apparently we as a species were genetically engineered on Mars by crossing the Primate DNA with over 22 different Humanoid Alien species. And then brought to earth, our original skin color was green and our blood was copper based. Through one of the Nuclear wars that happened in ancient history. And the resulting radiation that stayed in the atmosphere it damaged our DNA, and the different skin tones come from the damaged DNA mutations. And, here's something to ponder. The Red Skins (Native Americans and other Native Tribal people) are the strongest genetically and have the highest concentration of Off Worlder genetics, while the yellow skinned and black skinned are somewhere in the "middle", the white skinned people are genetically the weakest. We all as one global race have the same 22 various genetic codes in our DNA, and the ability to manifest the 3rd strand some kids are being born with recently. The radiation also damaged our pituitary and thyroid glands, which are not fully functioning. They're partially atrophied.

[Bob137]

Not sure where that last bit of information came from, but I do not believe any of us humans are all that different on earth. We all have the same physiological makeup, same DNA makeup, each is a little different depending on ancestry, but still all in all we are all pretty much the same. I noticed the blue race was not included in that last statement, which from my understanding was the most advanced race on the planet in ancient times, (such as in Atlantis), and is all but wiped out through ancient wars, natural cataclysms, and interbreeding with other races. What is left from the interbreeding may be what is the white race of today, and is not anymore less than any other race is. I for one do not consign to prejudice of races of skin color, and do believe all races have equal value by all the universe, (whether for better or worse).

[Sunrisepony]

Well yea, the blue race is another anomaly or expression of our Off Worlder genetics. I agree we are all one race and very much similar. I was simply trying to explain that the difference in skin tones is mostly do to radiation in the atmosphere and that radiation causing genetic anomalies. The Native Tribes have a stronger genetic density of Off World DNA, and people with the white skin have a weaker genetic density. The forefathers of the white race were exposed to higher amounts of radiation and caused greater deviation from the base form that was created. Does that make better sense? Did I clarify it for you better?

[Bob137]

Yes, but it seems that from ancient sites of possible radiation type destruction were also in regions of the Desert of Northern Africa, and Southern Pakistan, India, Russia, and our own Death Valley, and parts of China, not just around the UK. So that would seem that those people of that type of skin would also have been just as effected as the ones in the UK areas. To me that would mean most all types of people of ancient times were effected just as bad.

[Sunrisepony]

Honestly, I haven't yet delved into the specifics from a regional "pov", but just from a global "pov". The deserts themselves were not "caused" by destruction during the nuclear wars. They accumulated after/post last major flood, which was roughly about 10,000 - 12,000 years ago. At the end of the Pleistocene ice age, when there was a geomagnetic and physical pole shift. The flood it's self was apparently caused by the destruction of one of the upper layers of the atmosphere which held a natural "ice shield" which happened during the war between the Annunaki and the other Off Worlders apparently?. But, prior to the flood the areas that are currently desert wastelands (with the exception of the one that spans the plane states, which was caused by farming) were very temperate / climatic areas, look at the water erosion that is on the Great Sphinx for example. Even at one point in time, Siberia was a "warm temperate climate" by evidence of the Mammalians that are warm temperate climatic species found flash frozen up there. There was a ocean fed inlet that lead into the "Death Valley" and it was part of the ocean, evidence of a sea faring and trade were found in caves in the Panamint Mountains. They even found was it an Roman or Viking ship partially buried in the sand, somewhere around argh, that lake in San Diego California..I can't remember the name of it. And, despite what the Western Orthodox Theorist claim. We certainly as a species did not migrate out of Mesopotamia. We started out in several spots through out the earth, as indicated by many different artifacts, megalithic sites, etc. found through out the world. Most likely a good portion of humans came from the Pacific, when Aramu Muru left The Motherland/Mu and spread his empire through North and South America, then into Sumer, Egypt, Osiria, Rama, Minoa etc.

[Bob137]

I agree with the migration being from different areas, such a MU. The lands I was speaking of are the ones of Ancient times that have legends of wars from the skies of the Gods wars, that brought nuclear type destruction, and there are places of those areas that still have radioactive areas, and places that were burned to a glass like substance that happens when there is a nuclear explosion or something similar. They have showed some on the Ancient Astronaut shows, and you can also find them in many books on strange and mysterious places and artifacts. You can probably even find some on the internet, though I have not looked on the net for them, but they probably have them on there. There may even be a forum on here that discusses those.

[Sunrisepony]

Ah yeah, I see what you're talking about. There was/is evidence of the Nuclear war (explosions?) found even in New England range in United States. And, several other points indicated through out as evidenced by the fusing of stone blocks in some of the megalithic sites, that are pre-flood. I think though mostly isn't the only significant documentation found in India's High Holy books? Which means there was destruction of records or they haven't been found yet in regards to the other global civilizations pre-flood that would have documented the wars. The damage would have been more wide spread considering air currents etc. But, the areas where the higher concentration is likely from the contact points of the weapons that were used. Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa are both still highly radio active, it would be interesting to do DNA test on skeletons found there if the Radiation hasn't damaged them beyond traceable amounts.

[Bob137]

That is very similar to what I have believed for many, many years. I think that some ET's came here in the beginning, and created each and every kind of creatures on this planet, over and over, and finally came up with what we have here today, since in my opinion, if evolution was reality, monkey's would not still be monkey's, (or other creatures one earth), they would have evolved again, which they have not, otherwise we would be conversing with them on what their way of thinking, and ideas are, etc...

[siren13]

Well you're part right from what I have done research wise anyway, the aliens did live here first. Then apparently we as a species were genetically engineered on Mars by crossing the Primate DNA with over 22 different Humanoid Alien species. And then brought to earth, our original skin color was green and our blood was copper based. Through one of the Nuclear wars that happened in ancient history. And the resulting radiation that stayed in the atmosphere it damaged our DNA, and the different skin tones come from the damaged DNA mutations. And, here's something to ponder. The Red Skins (Native Americans and other Native Tribal people) are the strongest genetically and have the highest concentration of Off Worlder genetics, while the yellow skinned and black skinned are somewhere in the "middle", the white skinned people are genetically the weakest. We all as one global race have the same 22 various genetic codes in our DNA, and the ability to manifest the 3rd strand some kids are being born with recently. The radiation also damaged our pituitary and thyroid glands, which are not fully functioning. They're partially atrophied.

@Sunrisepony I have read articles about the 3rd strand- is that the same idea that goes with the reasoning behind so many children being born with autism? I heard there was a "star child" link to that. A friend of mind believes that the star children are the ones being born with autism. I do not recall where I read about the 3rd strand. Possibly Whitley Strieber's website..just curious.

[Sunrisepony]

@Sunrisepony I have read articles about the 3rd strand- is that the same idea that goes with the reasoning behind so many children being born with autism? I heard there was a "star child" link to that. A friend of mind believes that the star children are the ones being born with autism. I do not recall where I read about the 3rd strand. Possibly Whitley Strieber's website..just curious.

Originally before the radiation damaged our DNA, we all had I think it was either 12 or 13 strands, the DNA got damaged and we were left with two. But, we have all inside us adults anyway the ability to express and "turn on" that third strand, we don't need the others. The ones with Autism It's mostly associated with the mercury in the shots,that they get as babies, intentionally put in to damage the DNA an attempt to prevent the 3rd strand from fully activating. The star children though would be the ones born with the 3rd strand, also those considered Crystal children, the indigo generation has pretty much already grown up. So yeah, there would be a "star child" link to the autism. It develops out of the deliberate attempt to prevent the 3rd strand from activating and those kids achieving full awakening.

I'm not sure how to best explain it. But, the people that have been in charge of the global finance and just "in general" for a few thousand years have been trying to make what is foretold in the bible happen, they're a huge religious sect. They are aware that everything, humans, earth, all that is about to "move up" into the next dimension, the next density. And, they're loosing control so they are very scared and have been trying to do everything they can to prevent this. Because they don't want that to happen, they want to continue with business as usual. So, they've been using different methods etc to permanently damage DNA etc to keep it from activating and keep us as a race turning against eachother and feeling we're inferior, not using our critical thinking skills. All that.

These whole spiritual movements, like the Indigo Children, The Star Children, The Chrystal Children, those with genuine psychic abilities. Well, the world and universe are turning against the bad guys and there are forces out there that just wont let the bad guys win this time. Children are being born with 3rd strand, and everyone out there is starting to wake up. Starting to realize that we as a global race have been betrayed for far to long. It's the Indigo's, Star's and Chrystal's and those of us like the ones that come here, all of us. That are making a difference, we all just need to realize now how powerful we really are as individuals and even more so as a collective. We have a future before us as free sovereign individuals with self determination and self responsibility, and the bad guys just don't want that. But, they're powerless to prevent it at this point though that doesn't mean as they're going down they wont try to do as much damage as possible on the way.

I would suggest if you come across any friends that have children with autism, they turn to the holistic and natural healing methods. And, away from western medicine, we all need to do that. Because the western medicine is part of what's causing trouble. They don't want to heal us, just keep us sick.

[siren13]

Interesting I have heard from a close friend of mine about the star children. Always interested me.

[Sunrisepony]

That is very similar to what I have believed for many, many years. I think that some ET's came here in the beginning, and created each and every kind of creatures on this planet, over and over, and finally came up with what we have here today, since in my opinion, if evolution was reality, monkey's would not still be monkey's, (or other creatures one earth), they would have evolved again, which they have not, otherwise we would be conversing with them on what their way of thinking, and ideas are, etc...

Yeah, totally they would have evolved out into something else. But, then again. Apparently with the exception of Humans, evolution is "supposed" to take millions of years. Which in that instance automatically proves the Ancient Astronaut Theory. We wouldn't be humans if it wasn't strictly for their intervention. Apparently though not all creatures were created "here", more like brought here from other systems etc. Palm Trees for example are an Off World Import, Dolphins and Whales are combinations of several different Off World Aquatic species. Earth is on a Intergalactic Trade Route. One of the most diverse planets in the Universe.

Interesting I have heard from a close friend of mine about the star children. Always interested me.

It's kind of a paradox isn't it? In a way the Star Children and Autism are connected, and yet in another they're not

[siren13]

A good friend of mine and a Reiki Practitioner swears her granddaughter is a starchild. That is the first time I had ever heard of such a thing- besides bad 80's tv movies about aliens mating with humans..

[Sunrisepony]

the child probably is, most that are that tuned into be doing Reiki etc would know. hopefully she knows to keep herself and her child as far away from things like Fluoride and artificial sweeteners as possible.

[Buzi-Blu]

I think that some ET's came here in the beginning, and created each and every kind of creatures on this planet, over and over, and finally came up with what we have here today, since in my opinion, if evolution was reality, monkey's would not still be monkey's

This is a misconception. Monkeys alive today, along with all life on earth, have all gone through the same length of time of evolution, something I like to point out to people who want to kill spiders. From, say, a few million years ago the monkeys will have changed, but those that have stayed within the same niche have changed less so. Those that have moved or had their environments changed will have had change thrust upon them because of the tendency for slightly better suited monkeys to have more surviving offspring. Similarly, many claim that humans evolved from chimpanzees. This too is a misconception - both humans and chimpanzees have evolved from a common chimp/human-like ancestor.

I like Richard Dawkins' idea that if all the female ancestors from that common chimp ancestor to the present day stood hand in hand (mother next to daughter etc), the line would stretch just 300 miles.

In my view, bringing in ETs to account for life on earth is no better than arguing for divine intervention. Both are a sort of cop out in the light of a better explanation; luckily Darwin looked deeper for a logical mechanism. It may be true, but I see no reason why evolutionary theory cannot be developed to more fully account for what we observe. And of course it always leads to the issue of how did the original intelligence come about in the first place. Earth seems perfect for evolution (too perfect some no doubt will argue).

[Sunrisepony]

Many of Earth's oldest scriptures imply that human development was guided by gods (notice the plurality of this word, it's not used in it's sigular form) who descended from the sky. Even anthropologists are aware of the unusually fast development of Homo sapiens. Some anthropologists estimate that the species Homo sapiens appears to be millions of years ahead of schedule.

Whereas the evolutionary development between Advanced Australopithecus and Neanderthal took more than two million years, evidence has been found on Earth that Homo sapiens (Cro-Magnon) emerged approximately 35,000 years ago. What is even more intriguing is that while the remains of man are continually discovered, archaeologists have found remains from an even earlier Homo sapiens in the areas of western Asia and Northern Africa.

These remains date back 250,000 years before Cro-Magnon man. It should be stated here that Homo sapiens has no evolutionary precursor. At this point it's more logical and there is more hard evidence to support alien intervention, than there is that supports evolution. The reason why divine intervention is so illogical and fantasy based is because there is NO evidence to support this, everything that those that claim divine intervention on is based on religions that were started to control and manipulate mass amounts of people, the root word of religion is cult. There is no comparison between Alien Intervention and Divine Intervention. 0%.

Nothing evolved into Homo sapiens - the species simply appeared. There fore.... ALIENS!

[Bob137]

From myself on another forum:

Yeah I prefer the Ancient Astronaut Theory, yet also like the Ancient Alien Theory. I do believe we both were created and visited by aliens, and that we also had our own advanced civilizations and they were destroyed. So I kinda fit in the middle somewhere. I also think the evolutionists theory is just kinda like they think we are stupid stinky monkey people, they just do not realize, they are in the mix also.

It is not just the monkey's, evolutionists state we have wholes in our theories, but there's is also riddled with holes. I am not going to go into again, if you want all the opinions on it, go to the forum on it. Thanks for visiting.

[Sunrisepony]

@ Bob,
I fully agree. This whole Evolution 'vs' AAT isn't worth getting into, at all. That's why I said what I said in my last post and I'm not saying another thing on the whole "vs" thing either. There just is no comparison between the two, it's like comparing apples to oranges.