Göbekli Tepe

[Coomba98]

Hay all just saw a new doco from National Geographic. Pretty interesting.

Can be downloaded from http://eztv.it/

Synopsis:- ( http://natgeotv.com.au/tv/lost-civilization/ )
The 11,500 year old Göbekli Tepe temple complex, unearthed by a team of scientists in Turkey,
could be the spark of civilisation that led mankind towards farming, urban life and all that followed.

Soon Sumeria will be classed as a relative new society.

Coomba98

[gerhard1]

I have a feeling that we have a really tiny picture of our history. Much smaller than most people might think it is. I think the more they find cities and settlements underwater at depths that put them on places on our time line that don't fit our current model, the more it leaves what we do up reinterpretation. When a city is found submerged that puts civilized living back at least 20k+ or more, that is a huge gap and an even huger piece of the puzzle missing. Eden could be anywhere as well as still underwater.

And as far as our destructive side being a head of the game, I'd have to agree with that because more often than not, even what we perceive as creativity and advancement have bi-products and unintentional destructive end results. Every step forward in tech has a huge environments pricetag attatched that most don't ever see. And thats all besides the intentional destruction and abuse of the environment that goes on in the world. As Americans we don't see the uglier realities that go on everywhere else. Humanity is Moonwalking. Looks like we are taking steps forward only to be sliding backward.

About the part that I highlighted: I agree. We only know about a very small portion of our history. And the more we find out, the further back it seems to put us. Even though there is very little if any hard evidence to back it up, I think that human civilization is at least 30,000-50,000 years old, if not older.

Who knows if there were not civilizations that even pre-date this?

As to Göbekli Tepe, I would like for the research team to look further for some type of settlement. After all, unless you subscribe to the notion that Aliens put the blocks in place, which I am reluctant to accept without hard evidence, it takes a lot of organization to move stones of such weight. Organization implies people and people have to be fed, housed, etc.

[Don Morace]

Hi Folks,Don here with a thought,after the flood with all of the lowlands covered in mud,civilization had to start in the higher elevations.Gobekli Tepi is only a short distance from Arrarat where the Ark came to rest.The gods would have had a place to start using the DNA(that was saved on the ark)to create all the species that were lost in the flood.Ninma had a city devoted to medicine etc.but it was lost in the flood,perhaps Gobekli Tepi was the new medical center?Don out.................

[warf~wave]

You all have some really good theories in regards to GT, it certainly may have been used for more than one purpose through out the ages with the different cultures of its time before being completely buried. My first impression when observed on AA was that of a jig for manufacturing a ship, be it Noah's ark or circular ship hulls. Does anyone know if the center vertical monoliths are taller than the outer ones close to the circular walls? What if this site was used at one time or another to mass produce the silver disk ships where the bottom half was produced upside down with the central small dome supported by the taller vertical monoliths, also giving a whole new sense of "pot belly hill". And a dock or landing platform for these ships to land safely out of harms way, as gold was abundant along the Pison River area to harvest for their world as well as other vital resources. Just another theory (:)

[Erik Norberg]

Göbekli Tepe Documentary

This is in turkish but has some comments in english and all in all is interesting anyway.
Due to graphics and such You sort of get it.

An english version is hopefully coming out.

GT is one of the most interesting sights that I know of and it is strange that there are no non-mainstream documentaries made.
At least not that I am aware of.

Eventhough I don´t speak a word turkish, this seems to be not mainstream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggBZD8dLP60

[polaris]

GT proves the Vatican has been lying to us all along! that's what it means.

[refamat]

I agree with your logic Upperworld, 5% is nothing.

And why does everything have to be a Temple, is that all ancient man did, pray and worship. Life must have been boring as hell.

Perhaps it was viewed as an evil place. I hate to jump to conclusions, but it sure looks to me like it was buried. What a job that must have been!
I am so intrigued by this place as we all are. It just seem so strange to me they would bury whatever it is. Temple, Arena, or city. If people left a place and didn't want anybody else to use it, they would try to destroy it perhaps. Or they were so afraid somebody would see what they had been doing they wanted to hide the evidence. It sure is fun to speculate!

Oh, have they determined yet where all this dirt came from?!? it is local dirt? Is there a big hole some place nearby. Going by Pons figuring, that is a sh!t load of dirt to haul in.

According to current wisdom (read that as camps of archaeology and anthropology) man only built large structures for worship since nothing else would be able to bring enough people together for such a purpose. But! think if there is any credence to the Hindu legends of battles in ancient times using interestingly described vehicles and weapons, then, it is possible, that the "victor" may have ordered such a project to hide it's enemy's fortress or city or whatever. Then, if you travel to Peru and the unexplained constructions and blocks themselves makes one think that the ancients were wide spread around the globe. One other item of mention is the radioactive readings found in Mohenjo-Daro and the Libyan desert glass (which is very clear and gem grade glass in many instances, but has been "attributed" to a meteorite impact but no crater has been linked to it), one can infer battles with winners and losers and it's entirely possible the losers were in fact tampering with ancient humans and when discovered by some governing galactic entity, wiped out for doing so and ancient peoples picked up the pieces of "civilization" that they had experienced and did the best they could..

[refamat]

GT proves the Vatican has been lying to us all along! that's what it means.

the Vatican has no records of GT I am sure. And what they base their religion on amounts to the texts "remembered" by one "bishop" who said he saw the original bible as put together for Constantine but was lost. And it is pretty sure by some scholars that what makes up the bible as it is known is tailored to provide a "cause" to attend to by the dumber masses.

[refamat]

GT proves the Vatican has been lying to us all along! that's what it means.

the Vatican has no records of GT I am sure. And what they base their religion on amounts to the texts "remembered" by one "bishop" who said he saw the original bible as put together for Constantine but was lost. And it is pretty sure by some scholars that what makes up the bible as it is known is tailored to provide a "cause" to attend to by the dumber masses.

[polaris]

Not necessarily lying to us about GT specifically, more about the proof that their religion comes from ancient aliens aka people from another planet. And more importantly that human history goes back farther than 8000 years - their official position.

In addition, during my ongoing search for knowledge, ancient artifacts always seem to have gone missing at critical times - BS!!!!
The Vatican is either hiding it or had it destroyed...as it DISPROVES their official DOCTRINE.
The Popol Vuh comes to mind, the destruction of Alexander's library another...

PS I am quite certain you speculate on what is in the vatican library.
PPS Who was that bishop that wrote the bible?