Vehicles of the Gods?

[Hinduw]

Hey all! I am back.

I recently started working on a book called Vehicles of the Gods in which I try and show in a simple way that ancient aliens could possibly be proven by the fact that literally every major God in ancient times was flying around in a fire vehicle.

That being the case, I wanted to discuss it on here with you guys and possible find some information I didn't have.

So far I have these, but please feel free to add some new ones.

(1) Bible UFOS (The Bible)
(2) Egyptian flying boat of the gods, their utterances (Twilight of the Gods, EVD), and the fact that the hieroglyph symbol for the gods was a flying bird. (Write Your Own Egyptian Hieroglyphs, Angela McDonald)
(3) Shems from Sumeria (Sitchin's Earth Chronicles)
(4) Ahura Mazda's flying vehicle (Mythology textbook)
(5) Greek Fire Chariots rode by the gods (Heroes, Gods, and Monsters of Greek Mythology, Bernard Evslin)
(6) King Solomon's flying carpet (Signs of the Gods, EVD)
(7) Thor's flying fire throne (Bulfinch's Mythology)
(8) The legend of the woman in the lake in Japan (the one with the box as seen on ancient aliens)
(9) Flying Guatamalin flying turtles (Ancient Alien show)
(10) the underwater lights at Lake Titicaca (Andeas Mountain Legends)
(11) Book of Enoch (Enoch and the Extraterrestrials, John McAdam)
(12) Mulungu and his UFO (Ancient African Legend)
(13) Lord Pakal's Tomb
(14) Bep Kororoti of the Kayapo Indians
(15) Dragons and the Emporers of China
(16) Ancient Native American Traditions
(17) Vimanas in India
(18) John From and the New Guinea people
(19) Those little gold airplanes we all know about in the AA community.

I have more, but you can see the just of what I am talking about.

I need a few references as well. I need where the ancient alien show talks about Mount Olympus sparkling and flying into the sky on fire, I need some Mayan stories of the gods flying in chariots (though I think I may go see that new Mayan movie coming out in 2012 about ET's..that new documentary), and possibly anything else I seemed to have missed. I have a lot I haven't mentioned, but feel free to shout out.

Also, do you think this would suffice as proof of ancient alien visitation, a book with showings all over the world of flying vehicles of the gods in ancient times? That is the discussion for this particular thread!

[Moon]

The one problem with trying to prove it was aliens is the stories could be just that: stories and parables. Did they actually mean there were beings flying in the skies, or was it a way to entertain and teach the people lessons of morality?

If one were to come back to Earth 10,000 years from now and dig up a Harry Potter novel, would they make the claim there was a great school for wizards out there?

I am not trying to knock down the idea, but in order to prove they traveled on vehicles, one has to find the actual vehicle used.

Finding mentions of these flying chariots is easy, finding proof they actually existed is difficult. As JFK stated, we do this not because it is easy but because it is hard.

One thing to try to research is where these vehicles might have been made if manufactured on Earth. Then one can look for physical evidence of these alleged craft.

[Hinduw]

Well, I am taking it for granted that we can't exactly find these things. A plane flies over an Amazonian tribe at least once a day, but all we have to base the facts on are their stories of the plane because they can't get actually get to it. To be, it's too much of a coincidence that all these ancient cultures are all talking about fire vehicles. How did they know that vehicles are supposed to be propelled by fire? Many of them didn't even have the wheel yet. Too much of a coincidence in my eyes...but this will all be explained in the book in much more compelling detail. Right now I am just trying to find references. Have any that I seemed to have missed?

[Moon]

We know that planes are flying over the primitive areas of the world, so that sort of reasoning is moot.

I see where you are coming from, but looking for proof in just the stories is not enough as you are making an extraordinary claim. While I do think finding any sort of proof will be very difficult as many later societies would of used the metallic parts for other purposes, I do hope there is something out there showing these vehicles actually existed.

Getting the stories is a start, but what is needed is diagrams, parts or the actual craft themselves.

[Hinduw]

Well I must disagree with you in this. I think our ancestors weren't dummies, and if all of a sudden a flying disk of fire lands, then I think if this is happening around the world and everything is coming from "up", this is good grounds to suspect there was something flying around our atmosphere. Unlike you and the archaeological community, I don't treat people who build gigantic pyramids as idiots when they talk about flying gods

[Moon]

Well I must disagree with you in this. I think our ancestors weren't dummies, and if all of a sudden a flying disk of fire lands, then I think if this is happening around the world and everything is coming from "up", this is good grounds to suspect there was something flying around our atmosphere. Unlike you and the archaeological community, I don't treat people who build gigantic pyramids as idiots when they talk about flying gods

Now hold on there, I have never stated the ancient peoples were dummies. I have always believed and stated they were much smarter than we are today. I am not saying they did not witness actual flying disks and machines in the air, but the stories are not evidence of it alone. We need to actually prove they saw those objects which is very difficult to do. We also have to look at the prospect that some of these stories are just that: stories. There are actual ancient reports of mysterious objects recorded in history and can be found in most books of ufology.

Dismissing people who question the stories aspect of the ancient astronaut theory does everyone a disservice.

Last night's episode of Ancient Aliens showed some physical evidence of peoples of antiquity's amazing knowledge which predates the pyramids themselves. Again, I do think we were visited by extraterrestrials and contacted, but we need to look at the real physical evidence that is out there.

[Hinduw]

Well we could debate about that for a long time, but as for the initial question for this thread, do you know of any ancient flying things I seem to be missing?

[Don Morace]

Hi Folks,Don here.Hinduw,you may want to research the hieroglyphs from the tombs at Abydos,some look like saucers and heavy lift choppers!Naturally the 'experts?'have tried to debunk them but they haven't changed my mind.Take a look for yourself.Don out...........................

[celticqueen]

Hinduw - in the http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/rexufo/index.html link it tells that in Australian Aborigine myth that in 'Dreamtime' long ago a great silver bird landed upon a certain plateau and laid a large silver egg from which the first tribes people hatched from> Hope of that's of interest - you can get more info from the link (and it was allegedly around Ayres Rock)

Celticqueen

ps you should check out http://algorhythym.wordpress.com/2011/08/21/wondjina-aboriginal-mythology/ the cave paintings look a lot like Greys???

[Hinduw]

Hinduw - in the http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/rexufo/index.html link it tells that in Australian Aborigine myth that in 'Dreamtime' long ago a great silver bird landed upon a certain plateau and laid a large silver egg from which the first tribes people hatched from> Hope of that's of interest - you can get more info from the link (and it was allegedly around Ayres Rock)

Celticqueen

ps you should check out http://algorhythym.wordpress.com/2011/08/21/wondjina-aboriginal-mythology/ the cave paintings look a lot like Greys???

Ah, very interesting. Possibly a pod from the mothership that brought the first humans to Earth. I also forgot to include the Dogon "fire eggs" that came from the Nommos in my list.

And of course we can't forget Garuda from Hinduism.

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Hi Folks,Don here.Hinduw,you may want to research the hieroglyphs from the tombs at Abydos,some look like saucers and heavy lift choppers!Naturally the 'experts?'have tried to debunk them but they haven't changed my mind.Take a look for yourself.Don out...........................

Haha those dang Abydos glyphs are really cool, alright, and I do know a lot about them, but the problem is that they don't have anything concrete. One looks like a chopper, but if it had something next to it like "the chariots of Horus" or something like that, then we have some proof. Otherwise it could very much be our imagination playing with us and making those patterns we all like so much.
I'll still "use" it in my book and redraw it for the picture, but still it's not "concrete" though extremely compelling. The Egyptologist explination of it is very poor, though, saying that it's half of a hieroglyph that "fell away" to make it look like a helicopter...haha.

[Moon]

I am sorry about the outburst, but the comment about me agreeing with the debunkers about the ancients not being very smart did get my goat.

There are many types of ancient flying objects:

flying carpets (Persia)

large birds which carry people (meaning people ride the large birds like horses, they appear throughout many myths and stories such as the Roc)

Pegasus (flying horses)

dragons (many gods rode dragons especially in China)

Ezekiel's Wheel

Jacob's Ladder

Icarus (using wings which were man made)

Leonardo Da Vinci (helicopter prototype designs)

Thunderbirds (could they of been ships?)

the Phoenix (another possibility of a ship)

Angels and lesser Gods and Goddesses who had wings (Cupid, Iris, Irene, Mercury, Nike etc)

There are also many places where it is claimed the ancients or ancient astronauts used as spaceports. One could look for evidence of this in beacons, buildings used as flight towers and possible pieces of melted metals or other materials.

I hope this helps you with your research.

[Hinduw]

I am sorry about the outburst, but the comment about me agreeing with the debunkers about the ancients not being very smart did get my goat.

There are many types of ancient flying objects:

flying carpets (Persia)

large birds which carry people (meaning people ride the large birds like horses, they appear throughout many myths and stories such as the Roc)

Pegasus (flying horses)

dragons (many gods rode dragons especially in China)

Ezekiel's Wheel

Jacob's Ladder

Icarus (using wings which were man made)

Leonardo Da Vinci (helicopter prototype designs)

Thunderbirds (could they of been ships?)

the Phoenix (another possibility of a ship)

Angels and lesser Gods and Goddesses who had wings (Cupid, Iris, Irene, Mercury, Nike etc)

There are also many places where it is claimed the ancients or ancient astronauts used as spaceports. One could look for evidence of this in beacons, buildings used as towers and possible pieces of melted metals or other materials.

I hope this helps you with your research.

It's all good, Max.

What I mean by flying vehicles isn't Da Vinci's prototype because while we can possibly link it to aliens, it is not ancient nor is it acceptable, because if he really was a great thinker then he really could have thought of all these inventions. I am talking about things like in Korea, where Haemosu rode the sky with his 5-dragon chariot. I got the flying carpets when I mentioned Solomon's carpet. I have Ez's wheel when I mentioned the Bible. The Phoenix is good, though. I already said the thunderbird, and to me angels weren't UFO's but rather aliens with the power of flight. As for the story of Icarus, same thing with Da Vinci. The Greeks were into that kind of thing, so it could have just been another invention. With Jacob's ladder, I could probably tie that into the Mulungu story where the great white man with a beard god Mulungu uses a long spiderweb to crawl back into the sky!

[Moon]

We are both passionate people when it comes to the ancient astronaut theory.

I was thinking of all those ideas at the top of my head and just typed them down, but I see what you are looking for: Actual stories with people or beings and their flying entities or machines.

I put down Da Vinci because his ideas actually did work, even though they are not considered ancient. Some do think he got those ideas from the ancient Romans or Greeks, but that is not known for sure.

There is a fairly recent case from early 19th Century Japan about a flying disk crashing with a Goddess in it. Even the old pictures show a classic UFO type ship. Although it is fairly recent, it might be helpful. I found this image of the craft:

[Hinduw]

We are both passionate people when it comes to the ancient astronaut theory.

I was thinking of all those ideas at the top of my head and just typed them down, but I see what you are looking for: Actual stories with people or beings and their flying entities or machines.

I put down Da Vinci because his ideas actually did work, even though they are not considered ancient. Some do think he got those ideas from the ancient Romans or Greeks, but that is not known for sure.

There is a fairly recent case from early 19th Century Japan about a flying disk crashing with a Goddess in it. Even the old pictures show a classic type ship. Although it is fairly recent, it might be helpful. I found this image of the craft:

Thanks, but that was my number 8 for the lady of the lake!

I want hard proof. Ez's wheel is proof in my eyes. A man coming out of a dragon and flying it around is proof in my eyes. It may not be to your eyes because you want something tangible, touchable. My problem is that I can't offer that as I can't even leave my house for 5 hours (long story involving medical issues), so all I can do is offer textual evidence, and in my eyes this is proof enough when flying vehicles come from ALL over the world, not just in select regions.

[Moon]

I fully understand about the medical issues. That can be a big problem when one has to get outside for things. I have lung issues so I need to have my meds (and a nebulizer to administer them) on me at all times.

I do think Ezekiel's Wheel is describing an encounter with an extraterrestrial, but those who are skeptical will put it on the side of stories and myths. I agree with them when it comes to using it as evidence since it is not enough to make a perfect case. The circumstantial evidence of not only stories but artifacts which depict possible astronauts in suits is enough for me to think the AAT has a very strong merit. But we have to move further along in the cause if we want to prove it to the mainstreamers.

I think we have that possible proof in the Starchild Skull DNA genome project (and possible Peruvian Elongated skulls when they get DNA tested). So far it is looking to be the real deal, but the debunkers and skeptics want to see the entire genome done which will cost several million dollars.

I also think there are other instances which show to me there were extraterrestrials, but that is not proof for others.

I am sold on the idea, and we should be working to try and sell it to the skeptics and debunkers. The only way to do that is with some physical proof such as a craft or ancient astronaut spacesuit.

I really do think it will be proven, and there is a documentary coming up which claims to have some real proof of ancient extraterrestrial contact. I looked at the names involved and they are not the type to lie or hype things up like some in ufology do. If they really do have the proof, it will come out when people first see the movie.

On this topic, the show did discuss the god Apollo making treks from Delphi to the northeast part of Europe by way of flying chariot. It does make me think of an airline route and possibly frequent flyer miles. Apollo was said to make the trip every year, so this is something to research as it does sound like something modern people do when visiting relatives or going on business trips.

[Hinduw]

I do agree that we should sell this idea to the skeptics, but the books I write are what I believe to be proof. Remember, even the hardest proof is subjective. I feel flying vehicles all over the world proves aliens, at least in my eyes. This is why I am searching for all of them. If anything, my book can be a reference book for future AAT.

The documentary you speak of..is it that Mayan one?

[Moon]

I do agree that we should sell this idea to the skeptics, but the books I write are what I believe to be proof. Remember, even the hardest proof is subjective. I feel flying vehicles all over the world proves aliens, at least in my eyes. This is why I am searching for all of them. If anything, my book can be a reference book for future AAT.

The documentary you speak of..is it that Mayan one?

I do like to have reference books on these subjects.

Yes, the documentary is the one I have a thread on of the Mayan and Mexico supposedly revealing some evidence to prove extraterrestrial contact. Now if it turns out to not be correct, we will read about it in the blogs and other areas after the release of the documentary. If it does happen to actually show proof, this will blow the roof off the theory and redeem a lot of people.

[Hinduw]

I do agree that we should sell this idea to the skeptics, but the books I write are what I believe to be proof. Remember, even the hardest proof is subjective. I feel flying vehicles all over the world proves aliens, at least in my eyes. This is why I am searching for all of them. If anything, my book can be a reference book for future AAT.

The documentary you speak of..is it that Mayan one?

I do like to have reference books on these subjects.

Yes, the documentary is the one I have a thread on of the Mayan and Mexico supposedly revealing some evidence to prove extraterrestrial contact. Now if it turns out to not be correct, we will read about it in the blogs and other areas after the release of the documentary. If it does happen to actually show proof, this will blow the roof off the theory and redeem a lot of people.

And with a name like Vehicles of the Gods...OH MY GOSH!...$$$$$$
But I'm not in it for the money, though it is a good addition to work.

[allspark]

Hello Hinduw,
I'd like to ask you a question if i may.
What is your main reason for thinking that ancient flying machines are connected to aliens ?
Please don't misunderstand me. I know that present day ufos are real, the evidence is undeniable. Anyone who thinks otherwise has not looked properly.
I also know that the ancients flew about the skies. This is also undeniable and I would cite the various artifacts of the golden flyers and effigies of astronaut type figures in various mediums of art found in the ancient world. However, most if not all of these depictions are homogeneous.
It is also undeniable that the ancients possessed advanced knowledge of physics and I would cite the incontrovertible evidence left to us in the ancient structures around the world. The efflorescence of the ancient civilisation presents itself at every instance of opportunity proved by people such as Graham Hancock, Christopher Dunn, Robert Beauval and many, many, others.
If Cremo & Thompson ( Forbidden Archeology ) are right in that we have been here a lot longer than we would presume to assume, why do we not give them credit for the development these ' flying systems ' ? Again, please don't misunderstand me, I do think that there has been 'intervention' at some time in our past ( probably, still now ) here i would cite the work of Lloyd Pye in both 'Everything you know is wrong' and 'the starchild skull' along with the genius of John Mack MD and again, many, many, others.
The ubiquitous appearance of effigies with masks and helmets is my main problem with identifying the 'pilots' of these craft. These mostly seem to be human looking pilots !

[Hinduw]

Hello Hinduw,
I'd like to ask you a question if i may.
What is your main reason for thinking that ancient flying machines are connected to aliens ?
Please don't misunderstand me. I know that present day ufos are real, the evidence is undeniable. Anyone who thinks otherwise has not looked properly.
I also know that the ancients flew about the skies. This is also undeniable and I would cite the various artifacts of the golden flyers and effigies of astronaut type figures in various mediums of art found in the ancient world. However, most if not all of these depictions are homogeneous.
It is also undeniable that the ancients possessed advanced knowledge of physics and I would cite the incontrovertible evidence left to us in the ancient structures around the world. The efflorescence of the ancient civilisation presents itself at every instance of opportunity proved by people such as Graham Hancock, Christopher Dunn, Robert Beauval and many, many, others.
If Cremo & Thompson ( Forbidden Archeology ) are right in that we have been here a lot longer than we would presume to assume, why do we not give them credit for the development these ' flying systems ' ? Again, please don't misunderstand me, I do think that there has been 'intervention' at some time in our past ( probably, still now ) here i would cite the work of Lloyd Pye in both 'Everything you know is wrong' and 'the starchild skull' along with the genius of John Mack MD and again, many, many, others.
The ubiquitous appearance of effigies with masks and helmets is my main problem with identifying the 'pilots' of these craft. These mostly seem to be human looking pilots !

Well the answer is very clear, indeed. If ancient people had all these flying machines, of which there are hundreds in ancient literature, then we would have found at least ONE. Sadly, that hasn't happened.

Also, the texts state that these beings came from the sky from far away places in the cosmos. Even modern religions like Mormonism agree that their gods and angels came from not only the sky but the Pleiades. I do agree that ancient man was around for a long time, but there is a problem with all of this in terms of their technology. We find 100% nothing computerized. The most technical things we have are the Mayan calender and the Greek Aticathera (spell check) clock. The only metal substances we have are swords, shields, and speartips, and they are of poor quality at that.

Also, the gods came down and taught people. It would be impossible for one group to invent flying, go to the next trip and land to teach them only to incite some kind of flying chariot mythology, and when that tribe has the secrets to then go to another tribe and repeat the process. We would find SOMETHING like that in our texts, and if that were true then we would all only know about the same religion because like the Catholics in the early 1600's, they would spread their religion around the world, especially to lesser people (Cortez and the Aztecs). From all the textual evidence we have, it is absolutely clear that these machines were not manmade. In fact, King Solomon directly attributes his flying vehicle to God, saying that God gave him the vehicle. All these beings came from the stars, and virtually every religion agrees with that, hence why we worship the stars because that is where we find God and where we "return to in death".

[Moon]

Hello Hinduw,
I'd like to ask you a question if i may.
What is your main reason for thinking that ancient flying machines are connected to aliens ?
Please don't misunderstand me. I know that present day ufos are real, the evidence is undeniable. Anyone who thinks otherwise has not looked properly.
I also know that the ancients flew about the skies. This is also undeniable and I would cite the various artifacts of the golden flyers and effigies of astronaut type figures in various mediums of art found in the ancient world. However, most if not all of these depictions are homogeneous.
It is also undeniable that the ancients possessed advanced knowledge of physics and I would cite the incontrovertible evidence left to us in the ancient structures around the world. The efflorescence of the ancient civilisation presents itself at every instance of opportunity proved by people such as Graham Hancock, Christopher Dunn, Robert Beauval and many, many, others.
If Cremo & Thompson ( Forbidden Archeology ) are right in that we have been here a lot longer than we would presume to assume, why do we not give them credit for the development these ' flying systems ' ? Again, please don't misunderstand me, I do think that there has been 'intervention' at some time in our past ( probably, still now ) here i would cite the work of Lloyd Pye in both 'Everything you know is wrong' and 'the starchild skull' along with the genius of John Mack MD and again, many, many, others.
The ubiquitous appearance of effigies with masks and helmets is my main problem with identifying the 'pilots' of these craft. These mostly seem to be human looking pilots !

This is always a possibility that there were some technologically advanced civilizations here thousands if not millions of years ago. While I do think there were advanced civilizations, I don't think they had computers, cell phones and tablets like we do now. I do think they were advanced in the arts, sciences and mathematics.

I also believe they had contact with extraterrestrials and left the proof of where they came from in the monuments and alignments all over the world to many different star systems.

[Hinduw]

Hello Hinduw,
I'd like to ask you a question if i may.
What is your main reason for thinking that ancient flying machines are connected to aliens ?
Please don't misunderstand me. I know that present day ufos are real, the evidence is undeniable. Anyone who thinks otherwise has not looked properly.
I also know that the ancients flew about the skies. This is also undeniable and I would cite the various artifacts of the golden flyers and effigies of astronaut type figures in various mediums of art found in the ancient world. However, most if not all of these depictions are homogeneous.
It is also undeniable that the ancients possessed advanced knowledge of physics and I would cite the incontrovertible evidence left to us in the ancient structures around the world. The efflorescence of the ancient civilisation presents itself at every instance of opportunity proved by people such as Graham Hancock, Christopher Dunn, Robert Beauval and many, many, others.
If Cremo & Thompson ( Forbidden Archeology ) are right in that we have been here a lot longer than we would presume to assume, why do we not give them credit for the development these ' flying systems ' ? Again, please don't misunderstand me, I do think that there has been 'intervention' at some time in our past ( probably, still now ) here i would cite the work of Lloyd Pye in both 'Everything you know is wrong' and 'the starchild skull' along with the genius of John Mack MD and again, many, many, others.
The ubiquitous appearance of effigies with masks and helmets is my main problem with identifying the 'pilots' of these craft. These mostly seem to be human looking pilots !

This is always a possibility that there were some technologically advanced civilizations here thousands if not millions of years ago. While I do think there were advanced civilizations, I don't think they had computers, cell phones and tablets like we do now. I do think they were advanced in the arts, sciences and mathematics.

I also believe they had contact with extraterrestrials and left the proof of where they came from in the monuments and alignments all over the world to many different star systems.

And don't forget that we aren't finding anything technological like computer or whatnot, but in the Mayan temples we do find the "gods" using computers on their reliefs. Man, I wish I still had that picture. I lost it

[Moon]

I have seen the pictures of the possible computers and circuits and they do look like imitations of the real deal.

My problem is when people think of civilizations from antiquity, they are stuck with the image of tablets, cell phones, flying cars etc. I do not rule out they might of had something like that, but I also think we need to think of civilizations like the ancient Egyptians, Romans, Greeks etc which had sciences, mathematics, arts which were very advanced for the time. The idea of the material development is also difficult to prove as many items would of been cannibalized later on for other uses.

The extraterrestrials could of taken most of their items with them. My hope is they forgot some small items or an Earthling kept a few things hidden for souvenirs.

Archeologists claim there was nothing sophisticated until Sumerian civilization, but others claim there could of been advanced peoples living 10,000 or more years ago (re Graham Hancock).

[Hinduw]

I have seen the pictures of the possible computers and circuits and they do look like imitations of the real deal.

My problem is when people think of civilizations from antiquity, they are stuck with the image of tablets, cell phones, flying cars etc. I do not rule out they might of had something like that, but I also think we need to think of civilizations like the ancient Egyptians, Romans, Greeks etc which had sciences, mathematics, arts which were very advanced for the time. The idea of the material development is also difficult to prove as many items would of been cannibalized later on for other uses.

The extraterrestrials could of taken most of their items with them. My hope is they forgot some small items or an Earthling kept a few things hidden for souvenirs.

Archeologists claim there was nothing sophisticated until Sumerian civilization, but others claim there could of been advanced peoples living 10,000 or more years ago (re Graham Hancock).

10,000 years is a joke. Look into the work of Michael Tllinger and his African datings, or the Indian datings of some of their holy cities. Carbon dating alone shows them to be sometimes 100,000 years old, and some of the gold mines we find around the Earth are up to 170,000 years!

[cRush]

Isn't the story of Icarus a blatant parable? Not to mention, the story specifically details what the wings were made of (feathers and wax) and his demise was caused by wax melting from getting too close to the sun.

I would probably leave this out of your book unless you know of some compelling reason to add it that I am missing.

*EDIT* I realize now that it was actually suggested by maxmercury.

[Hinduw]

Isn't the story of Icarus a blatant parable? Not to mention, the story specifically details what the wings were made of (feathers and wax) and his demise was caused by wax melting from getting too close to the sun.

I would probably leave this out of your book unless you know of some compelling reason to add it that I am missing.

*EDIT* I realize now that it was actually suggested by maxmercury.

I wasn't planning to add it, hence my objection to some of his ideas.

[Moon]

Isn't the story of Icarus a blatant parable? Not to mention, the story specifically details what the wings were made of (feathers and wax) and his demise was caused by wax melting from getting too close to the sun.

I would probably leave this out of your book unless you know of some compelling reason to add it that I am missing.

*EDIT* I realize now that it was actually suggested by maxmercury.

I do know the story of Icarus is a parable. I used it as an example of stories of people flying for the OP to research. I also think flying carpets are stories and parables, but they are interesting to research also for this project.

Sometimes I also like to have fun with this subject.

[Hinduw]

Isn't the story of Icarus a blatant parable? Not to mention, the story specifically details what the wings were made of (feathers and wax) and his demise was caused by wax melting from getting too close to the sun.

I would probably leave this out of your book unless you know of some compelling reason to add it that I am missing.

*EDIT* I realize now that it was actually suggested by maxmercury.

I do know the story of Icarus is a parable. I used it as an example of stories of people flying for the OP to research. I also think flying carpets are stories and parables, but they are interesting to research also for this project.

Sometimes I also like to have fun with this subject.

Flying carpets aren't parables because on Solomon's flying carpet, the Tibetans, who are hundreds if not thousands of miles away, have stories of Solomon arriving on his flying carpet within a day of traveling from his home.