The Money Pit

[lunarwing]

I already knew about it.... but did anyone catch the episode last night on the History Channel about the Kensington Stone?

Awesome stuff... it really should change history as we know it.

[Ace Rimmer]

I already knew about it.... but did anyone catch the episode last night on the History Channel about the Kensington Stone?

Awesome stuff... it really should change history as we know it.

Oh yeah, I have seen that program 3 or 4 times now. It is wonderful.
I hope somebody gets to the bottom of the money pit one of these days and finds something significant.

[lunarwing]

I kinda like how one of the many of "our mysteries" can lead to another. I liken it to putting a puzzle together. Bits and pieces start to link up.... then little parts of the picture becomes pictures within the picture. Eventually these merge with others.... and fill in the entire picture... the entire truth.

The money pit definately qualifies as one of our mysteries... hell, one of the best of the bunch really.

It's one that has been driving quite a few people loopy. Me included!! I want to know its reason, its function, and its history just as much as any one of those rich and famous folks that either sacraficed either health or wealth.

After years of tracking this mystery.... I am no closer to understanding the money pit on Oak Island than when I started.

[Ace Rimmer]

My money, no pun intended, is on the Templars leaving something there.

[lunarwing]

What is the reason for the "pit".... is my first thought, always has been. What is its point, why go to such an elaborate engineering wonder to defend what? What could be so important? Is it dangerous?

What the heck is the "thing" in the hole?

Historical Treasure? If so... What's its importance?

Knowledge? If so... What kind?

[Path of Least Resistance]

yeah, i don't have cable and i happened to catch it at my parents house during the Father's Day weekend. pretty interesting stuff.

i never realized they had made it so far inland in the US.

you'd think they would be able to use radar or something to try and peer under the surface of the money pit. they just used it to map out some ancient site in Egypt ( i think?)

anyone know the last time someone tried to excavate it?

i think it would end up being more information rather than some treasure. perhaps a map or or something pointing the direction of the Grail...if it of Templar origins.

[Ace Rimmer]

Alrighty, here we go, the official Oak Island Treasure Website.

http://www.oakislandtreasure.co.uk/content/view/36/49/

If it is information, then why so hard to get to. Unless whoever was suppose to retrieve the information had the instructions of how to get down to the bottom.
Yes so many questions.

[MrEcho]

unfortunately the Canadian government has not allowed the TTL ( Treasure Trove License ) to the company who currently owns the portion of oak island that the 4 sink holes and the money pit itself are on. There is a petition to allow excavation of the money pit, but a petition wont do anything. There IS something down there, and we finally have the technology to find out, but for some reason its still a mystery.

This is whats going to happen : O MY GOD!!!! We finally have reached the bottom, its probably some spacious room with a few modern artifacts, maybe a few bones, perhaps a crystal skull, but anything of extreme importance will get lost with everything else in the world "mysteriously.........."

I hope im enteriely wrong and we find the missing links between us and our ancestors.

Its pathetic that our governments continue to control the information , we the general public, are allowed to hear. I say they go against the government and start digging anyhow.


MAINSTREAM MEDIA : created by the government as a disinformation campaign joke, but sometimes i just dont understand why they are called NEWS channels with they show nothing new.....

[Path of Least Resistance]

MAINSTREAM MEDIA : created by the government as a disinformation campaign joke, but sometimes i just dont understand why they are called NEWS channels with they show nothing new.....

correction: MAINSTREAM MEDIA: taken over by the government as a disinformation campaign.

[Ace Rimmer]

MAINSTREAM MEDIA : created by the government as a disinformation campaign joke, but sometimes i just dont understand why they are called NEWS channels with they show nothing new.....

correction: MAINSTREAM MEDIA: taken over by the government as a disinformation campaign.

That is why "they" hate the internet, this was a huge mistake and perhaps their undoing.

[lunarwing]

I figure that if whoever constructed the pit.... if they wanted whatever is in the hole to never be found.... they would have been able to do that. They could have easily done this and kept the secret location knowledge only with a inner circle of very few individuals.

They didn't care that it would be found... by any body... they just did not want it to be recoverable. Look but don't touch kinda thing. If it is dangerous, why couldn't they destory it? If it was written forbiden knowledge.... well that's easy to despose of. If they could recover it... it was not the type of thing they wanted to show off for political or religious reasons... or why else go to the extremes of the intense engineering?

Whatever is down there... we are not meant to have it. That's why I ask myself.... "Is it dangerous? Is it like the mother of all bombs, a planet killer or something? Is it knowledge... which can be just as dangerous?

One of my own silly thoughts about what's down there.... Someone finally stands before the final barrier to the "object of the pit", they slowly pull it away to see a little stone room with a ugly red guy with horns and a tail who says, " About dam #%@#&@# time you let me out of here!!".

[mahalla2]

To me, seems someone or some group really didn't want whatever was buried there to be unburied anytime too soon or ever. And since warfare was fairly big on the Templars military agenda (and others) seems it might be rather dangerous to dig it up. (no one really knows what they're dealing with!)

[Hawklady]

Ok, this is really far far out there. The design schematic shown at the Oak Island website, at least for me, resembles the shafts in the Great Pyramids.

I too, think that whatever is buried there, no one wanted it dug up. Perhaps it is where they sealed away the evil ones as per the Sumarian texts.

I vote to leave it alone.

[Moon]

The Kensington Runestone is a fascinating object and does require more study. It has been the target of debunkers who have never been quite able to call it a fraud. The program actually looked at the evidence and tested samples indicating it could be the real deal.

On the Oak Island mystery, my main question to those saying pirate treasure is: Why would the pirates go out of their way to make it almost impossible to get the treasure they put their lives on the line acquiring?

Some carbon dating tests show the wood coming from the 16th Century which would make it younger than the Knights Templar time in America. That still does not rule out they built it, but that someone might of been there later trying to dig out what was put there earlier.

So, here are what has been speculated is down there:

1. The Ark of the Covenant

2. Solomon's treasure

3. Pirate treasure

4. The Holy Grail (cup theory)

5. The hidden knowledge of the Knights Templar (scrolls would be ruined by seawater possibly)

6. The majority of the Knights Templar treasure (valued as high as $60 billion)

[DutchB]

He guys,

My first post here, i'm new. Just found the forum, i like it! Last couple of days I have been thinking about the pit at oak island and what's in it and who build it.

Do you guys know what is going on there? Are there new crews digging or is it at stop? !

[Ace Rimmer]

He guys,

My first post here, i'm new. Just found the forum, i like it! Last couple of days I have been thinking about the pit at oak island and what's in it and who build it.

Do you guys know what is going on there? Are there new crews digging or is it at stop? !

Hi welcome. I haven't looked at the website for it for a while now.

http://www.oakislandtreasure.co.uk/content/view/36/49/

We did talk a bit about it here.

http://www.legendarytimes.com/forum/vie ... oak+island

[PegasusAngel]

Oh I'm interested in this too...thanks for the links Metaluna:)

And hi DutchB *waves*

[DutchB]

Thnx, will check it out! Nice to able to discuss things here that would be difficult to discuss in my own environment (Netherlands) People still think your a geek or weird if you talk about Ufo, ancient aliens etc!

[Ace Rimmer]

Thnx, will check it out! Nice to able to discuss things here that would be difficult to discuss in my own environment (Netherlands) People still think your a geek or weird if you talk about Ufo, ancient aliens etc!

Well you are amoung friends here for sure...but most of us run into the same problem when we are not on this forum.

[Moon]

Last I had heard, there was a delay in getting a permit to keep digging. There usually is a delay by some red tape or owner of the area.

Hopefully, things will get cleared up and we can finally find out what is down there, if anything.

[Gliese581]

Any thoughts on this being a large water filtration system? Almost looks like it could be with the layers of wood and fiber and rock....kinda like we use charcoal and cotton for filtration. It would seem plausible that they could pump water up through the "money pit" with the water being supplied from the ocean through the three (or more) channels on the edges of the island. Just a thought....

[Ace Rimmer]

Any thoughts on this being a large water filtration system? Almost looks like it could be with the layers of wood and fiber and rock....kinda like we use charcoal and cotton for filtration. It would seem plausible that they could pump water up through the "money pit" with the water being supplied from the ocean through the three (or more) channels on the edges of the island. Just a thought....

That is a good thought.

[Moon]

That is interesting, but who dug it and why? Those would be other questions raised. It also was built a several hundred years ago, and there is no evidence any sort of population lived at the island. A few people living there could dig a well and let the sand filter out the water naturally.

It also is dug very deep, and that would not be necessary for a water well.

[Marshall Ackerman]

I was watching AA and was struck by the Money Pit. Facinating, but a question came up. The Money Pit, recieves water from 3 different sources of the ocean. Why doesn't any one just clog the Holes that feed eater to the pit up. then drill?

[Ace Rimmer]

I was watching AA and was struck by the Money Pit. Facinating, but a question came up. The Money Pit, recieves water from 3 different sources of the ocean. Why doesn't any one just clog the Holes that feed eater to the pit up. then drill?

I have thought that too. Somebody must have tried that, wouldn't ya think?!?

[Moon]

The problem is the holes lead to the ocean, and the pressures are quite great since they were opened up. I do think they have attempted to clog the holes up, but to no avail. The persons who designed this did not want anyone accessing what was down there easily. I am thinking they have a map as to how to avoid those mechanisms when they went back to get whatever is down there. They have also tried to pump out the water also, but so far no success in any of those areas.

That is why I don't think there is pirate treasure buried as pirates would of gone back to retrieve it and spend it. They would not have wanted to deal with all of those traps to get to any loot they risked their lives in getting.

[lunarwing]

That is why I have always felt that whatever is down there was not meant to be recovered. As if the designers knew there would be a chance that this hidey hole would be discovered and the object recovered.

We are not meant to have this object.... period. But I am not saying it cannot be done.... just that maybe it shouldn't be done.

[upperworld]

Telling someone they shouldn't go get something is all the more reason to go get it. We are too curious a species to just leave something alone. Hell...i want to go up and give it a shot now! Regardless of whether the "treasure" is meant to be recovered or not, i feel it will be eventually as humankind can never suppress its unyielding curiosity. I guess the gods must have been awfully curious too!

[Shaun_Omega]

Telling someone they shouldn't go get something is all the more reason to go get it. We are too curious a species to just leave something alone. Hell...i want to go up and give it a shot now! Regardless of whether the "treasure" is meant to be recovered or not, i feel it will be eventually as humankind can never suppress its unyielding curiosity. I guess the gods must have been awfully curious too!

+1, I 100% agree

If it wasn't meant to be found then it shouldn't exist in the first place. It is like burying the truth, if one lets fear run their choices in life then they might as well go and join all the other human beings who are happy with the way things are today getting nowhere in life, in other words living a lie. One of the risks with seeking truth is that there is always a chance the truth could be horrifying, but that is what is. I'd rather know a horrifying truth than live a lie, but that is just me.

[upperworld]

I live less than a days drive away from Oak Island...anyone interested in teaming up, pooling resources and unearthing ancient treasure?!

[angeloneastralseed]

I'll go! First we need to figure out something no one has been able to............how to stop the water from flooding.

What about scuba gear and underwater lights.....forget about removing the water, work with the water.

Also, notice how Google satellite images are obscured as to prevent us from seeing a clear image of Oak Island, yet some of the islands next to it (Clay Island, Quaker Island) are perfectly fine and will focus clearly?

Many locations around the world including ocean locations are like that - what are they hiding?

[lunarwing]

Many locations around the world including ocean locations are like that - what are they hiding?

The truth....

[upperworld]

I'll go! First we need to figure out something no one has been able to............how to stop the water from flooding.

What about scuba gear and underwater lights.....forget about removing the water, work with the water.

Also, notice how Google satellite images are obscured as to prevent us from seeing a clear image of Oak Island, yet some of the islands next to it (Clay Island, Quaker Island) are perfectly fine and will focus clearly?

Many locations around the world including ocean locations are like that - what are they hiding?

I don't think anything can be recovered properly in the water. There has to be a way to get around the flooding.

[Moon]

There is another possibility that there might not be anything buried or hidden at Oak Island. I have speculated that pirates could of created a trap so people digging there would think there is treasure, therefor leaving alone the real place they hid their loot.

It does seem like a lot of work for a big joke in the end, but they would not want anyone getting their hard earned stolen loot.

[upperworld]

But Max even if your theory is true, that means that someplace nearby there is a vast treasure hidden. Even if it isn't the AOC or something of biblical proportions, it would have to be a wealth of gold and jewels for someone to create such an elaborate hoax.

So whether the money pit holds the treasure, or it is the diversion from the treasure, it is likely there is treasure of some kind on or around Oak island.