LAM

[N.O.X.]

Aleister Crowley drew this picture of an entity that he called "my guru" in I think 1918 or 1919. This is the image that I think the modern notion of "Greys" come from.

http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/2009/staley-lam.htm

There are methods to contact this entity, developed by Kenneth Grant and Michael Staley.

http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/lam-stat.htm
http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/dplane ... aley10.htm

some other articles on LAM:
http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/dplane ... taley9.htm
http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/dplane ... aley14.txt

I've seen no posts about this so I thought I'd let you all know about this!

[lunarwing]

From what I know about Aleister Crowley.... I would not advise anyone to contact anything that this guy was dealing with!

[Ace Rimmer]

I agree Lunarwing. He was pretty far out there and not really in a good way.

[N.O.X.]

Well, I posted this not to discuss the legacy of Aleister Crowley but to discuss LAM, the portrait of which he was quoted to say that it was drawn "from life". I just thought it strange that this picture really does resemble the modern "Greys" that are so prevalent in present day accounts of visitation, abduction, etc. and it was drawn in 1918 way before the birth of Ufology. Interesting, no?

[Ace Rimmer]

Well, I posted this not to discuss the legacy of Aleister Crowley but to discuss LAM, the portrait of which he was quoted to say that it was drawn "from life". I just thought it strange that this picture really does resemble the modern "Greys" that are so prevalent in present day accounts of visitation, abduction, etc. and it was drawn in 1918 way before the birth of Ufology. Interesting, no?

Oh sorry, very interesting for sure and yes it does look a lot like Greys.

I got thrown for a loop about trying to contact this entity.

[Moon]

LAN definitely looks extraterrestrial to me, but I would think even they would stay away from Mr Crowley. There is only so much crazy they would be able to deal with even on us humans.

Interesting drawings depicted there, thanks for sharing this.

[lunarwing]

I still have not figured out whether the Greys are good or evil.... but I am leaning toward evil. Remember, after the "star wars" for our planet... the bad guys were unable to leave... and are still here.

It is said in most ancient myths and legends that in order for evil to take effect in your life is that you must invite them. These entities are very tricky and will use any method possible to get you to make that invitation.
So be very very careful of your actions.

[Ace Rimmer]

It is said in most ancient myths and legends that in order for evil to take effect in your life is that you must invite them.

Holy Smokes ! I say that all of the time! that is so true, if you let evil in, into your head, your heart or worse still, into your house it is all over. Evil can not come in unless you invite it. But once it's there brother, it is hard, no impossible, to get rid of. Because even if it leaves, it is free to come back anytime, on it's own, uninvited.

[Serene]

Hi N.O.X.
Welcome to the forum!

I had to look up the name as I was not familiar with tihs person...

The drawing does look alien. However, the greys are ususally portrayed with huge black insect like eyes. This one has slits for eyes?

[Theory]

I still have not figured out whether the Greys are good or evil.... but I am leaning toward evil. Remember, after the "star wars" for our planet... the bad guys were unable to leave... and are still here.

It is said in most ancient myths and legends that in order for evil to take effect in your life is that you must invite them. These entities are very tricky and will use any method possible to get you to make that invitation.
So be very very careful of your actions.

The only thing about that is if all greys were evil and the only way for them to come into your life is to invite them..well I'm thinking theres a whole lot of people who have been abducted who would have never invited these guys, especially children. I think there are at least two types of greys one possibly good the other evil or maybe thats just wishful thinking

Yeah, I can see the resemblance between the pic and the modern greys..are greys a modern thing?

[lunarwing]

The only thing about that is if all greys were evil and the only way for them to come into your life is to invite them..well I'm thinking theres a whole lot of people who have been abducted who would have never invited these guys, especially children. I think there are at least two types of greys one possibly good the other evil or maybe thats just wishful thinking

Yeah, I can see the resemblance between the pic and the modern greys..are greys a modern thing?

That is true... considering my experiences as a child. But maybe a direct invitation is not necessarily what allows them to interact. One might bring home an object or some innocent looking media... and hey have the ticket in. Maybe a parent did something to invite them in.

Considering the two factions were together before the war... it could be a possiblity that after the war, each side had representatives from the different races of aliens. I would hope that good and evil doesn't depend on what race an alien is.... though it would be easier if it did.

Greys are not a modern specific entity.... as you could see on the last AA show. The Armenian Henge had stone blocks that had glyphs that really did look like greys... very clearly so. More so then most any other carvings I have seen.

[Theory]

[quote="lunarwingThat is true... considering my experiences as a child. But maybe a direct invitation is not necessarily what allows them to interact. One might bring home an object or some innocent looking media... and hey have the ticket in. Maybe a parent did something to invite them in.

Considering the two factions were together before the war... it could be a possiblity that after the war, each side had representatives from the different races of aliens. I would hope that good and evil doesn't depend on what race an alien is.... though it would be easier if it did.

Greys are not a modern specific entity.... as you could see on the last AA show. The Armenian Henge had stone blocks that had glyphs that really did look like greys... very clearly so. More so then most any other carvings I have seen.[/quote]

I never thought about an object or parent being the invitation, thats a really good point. I didn't know about the Armenian Henge I haven't seen the last two or three episodes, I'll be getting caught up next week sometime.

[Ace Rimmer]

I was metaphorically speaking, about letting evil in. Not necessarily as an entity persay. But if a person is evil and starts looking for more evil, don't worry, it will be more than happy to find you.

Ha, lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil !

[lunarwing]

One example of tempting evil that I personally had experience with was a friend who tried a old form of "invitation" by placing a key on a certain verse in the Bible. I will not tell you which one... so do not ask. He was a hell of a straping guy, brave as can be. I caught up with him a few months later.... he was not the same guy. He went from around 200 pounds to less than a hundred... and would jump at the sound of a cricket.

Another was my room mate that had broke up with a girl who was into things like the Ouiji Board. She went spasitic and cursed him. I witnessed things that I still can't explain.... definately things based in evil.

I witnessed even more things when I came back from the Air Force. The sleepy apartment complex my parents had moved into had turned into a community of illegal aliens from latin and south america. The women were always putting curses on each other.... making their pregnant neighbors have miscarriages and all sorts of sicknesses.

Evil is real.... the last thing we need to do is call it up... invite it in....

[Ace Rimmer]

I sure wouldn't mess around with anything to do with the occult either! It is hard enough dealing with the evil we can see around us.

[WarriorHealer]

Don't play with Sciences that you don't understand. Knowledge learned is always better than Knowledge disrespectfully given.

[Orfeas]

I still have not figured out whether the Greys are good or evil....

From what i can thinker out they are robots from the good site,
and i say robots because they have no genitalia they have velvet skin and eyes like cameras, they also have Six Fingers and toes.

There is a good interview on youtube about EBE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkR_u1LR ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWTQcfbs ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkAIezdE ... re=related

The best part is on the second one, and if you want to hear the rest of the interview just follow the links on youtube.

[lunarwing]

I thought they had only four fingers on each apendage....

[Theory]

I don't know about them being robots, they do tend to mess with people's heads alot, like controlling their memories, ect. I think they have some type of telepathic thing going on, which would lead me to believe that they are not robots, but then again I've never cut one open to find out, so I guess its possible.

I think the greys do have four digits, but there probably is some type of ET with six or more.

[lunarwing]

I do not think they are robots... as in a mechanical type.... but maybe a biomechanical type. Kinda like a bee is to the hive. A droid or what ever they call it.

I don't want to get into it too much because both of the following experiences are not something I can easily explain. I have memories of spindly creatures from my childhood that I can't say I felt was a good encounter. I also had a encounter (on a aircraft carrier of all places) of a almost blinding being. There was no conversation that I can remember... but I was imobilized and scared $#!+less!

Out of the two... I felt the spindlies were kinda evil.... where even though I was scared, I did not feel a evilness with the bright being.

[Orfeas]

ok, i have found this clip, have a look at his hands and genitalia


Roswell Alien Autopsy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzmmlaZ9b9I

[lunarwing]

There were also folks that were involved in the Roswell incident that said they remember the entities having four fingers. So who knows....

[N.O.X.]

I'm saddened to report the death of Kenneth Grant (who is mentioned in my first post).

[N.O.X.]

The link's that I first posted have changed so here are the new ones.

http://www.parareligion.ch/2009/staley-lam.htm

http://parareligion.ch/lam-stat.htm

http://www.parareligion.ch/dplanet/staley/staley9.htm

http://www.parareligion.ch/dplanet/staley/staley10.htm

http://www.parareligion.ch/dplanet/staley/staley14.htm

[N.O.X.]

The forthcoming issue of "Starfire" (Vol.II Number 4) will be almost wholly devoted to the topic of LAM. I'm going to order the Deluxe edtion, myself!

http://www.starfirepublishing.co.uk/mai ... s_page.htm