The purpose of the pyramids (theories by members)

[VikesfanKevin]

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[Bob137]

I have a couple of theories on this subject.
1. Made by advanced humans: The stones were actually made from crushed stones, and poured in forms like concrete is done, once each layer is dried, another is poured on top, until you get to the top. The only problem with this theory, is that it only accounts for the outside of the pyramids. The inside is made up of huge hundreds of tons of solid granite that are each machined to perfection. They would have required a big brutus type of crane to lift into place, and would have required machining tools to be so precise, or laser/plasma technology and levitation devices. The precision of the layout, ground work, and planning would have taken very skilled and masterful architects, engineers, and surveyors, with modern equipment, or actually better than our modern equipment to get it done so perfectly, and in line with the earth to such a degree that they are, would take either GPS, satellites, or space craft to get it right! Also possibly the giants that were of the earth then moved the stones, since no human can do it!
2. Made or assisted by aliens: Advanced technologies of the so called Gods, a space faring people thousands of years more advanced than we are now, came to earth, created us, after each deluge, or mega disaster, rebuild megalithic structures, to show us who's the boss, or to leave their mark for us to always remember them, with the promise of them returning, for whatever reason.

[Bob137]

The only reason mankind builds on large scale is to build something functional accordingly with size. A large warehouse is built large to hold what is put inside. A skyscraper is built on the same principle to hold what is inside, offices, apartments, etc.. The pyramids were built in such great size, and strength, and to such precision that they were to hold something of great importance to whoever built them, for whatever reason to whatever means. I also believe that they were mostly likely either some sort of energy device, or location gps system for space travelers, maybe for location of earth from a long distance possibly another solar system. Possible it was actually devices that projected light, microwaves, gamma rays, sound waves, plasma, or whatever out into space, so ET's could detect our planet from another location in space. Maybe why they were located so precisely, and made so precise. To produce the exact location from earth to another civilization, and possibly other ET's seen or heard it also, and came here to check it out, ended up having a war with the ones that built them, and the rest is history according to the writings in India!

[timeTraveler]

I totally agree with Bob. At least all our rational (and by our logic) is driven in the way that if some animal or man (the more intellectual the creature is the more) performs something essential then they must gain something proportional compared to the effort. This is why I can not believe in explanation like “leaving indication of some sort for generations to came after them”.

This is why I believe in explanation like “some sort of energy device” or “some kind of communication device in space travel”. In the later case I think that as these beings most obviously have to had quite extensive traffic to and from the earth they have needed some sort of navigational support from earth to make the approach safer. AT least within our limited physical knowledge it is most subtle steering that is needed to land a high speed spacecraft without crashing it. Most probably their number was not that big, that they could have earth covered with communication links as we have. This is perhaps why the needed at least a “space lighthouse” in northern Africa to assist a landing for instance somewhere in northern South-America.

[Bob137]

may be a navigational positioning system f a sort, and possibly other uses as well.

[lunarwing]

Here's a thought... and I guess it runs in line with the new power plant theory.

I am a artist of sorts and in my youth I used to draw all kinds of "spacey" kind of things. I once drew the pyramid with a large pyramid shaped UFO landing on it. This was way before the movie Stargate... and is why, besides the AAT plot line.... that it is possibly my favorite movie.

Now we are hearing about the power plant theory and if that is a possiblity... then why couldn't the great pyramid be a landing "pad" for a large craft.... and why couldn't those four small upward angled vent tubes originating in both the king and queens chambers be refueling and maybe waste ports that line up to ports on the craft while it is parked on the pyramid?

We always hear how the gods land on mountians or other high places. There in the desert... since there are no mountains... the gods had the Adomi build an artificial mountain for their craft to rest on. While they are here... their craft could refuel and dump any liquified waste material.

Like I said.... just a thought.....

[foxyphilosopher]

Wow I love this forum. All of your ideas are incredibly interesting and I just admire everyones persistance!

The power plant theory has interested me for a while, in 2007 A group of 6 and I visted Egypt and all 138 pyramids, in 3 months, it was exhausting! I thought you all might find it funny that the local hired hands resposible for watching the pyramids, wouldn't allow us to test anything not even the sand around ANY of the pyramids. We were looking for traces of radioactivity. However we were able to test a remnent that had fallen from the Bent Pyramid, which I found most ineresting that once i offered the hired help some rum, they forgot about guarding their precious ancient structures. (made me wish i had thought of this transaction in Cairo!) however the rement once we had it back in the states, was confirmed to be limestone, and did not have traces of radioactivity, which was not surprising considering the mistake of a pyramid it is. (please excuse my poor grammer and run-on sentences English is my worst subject, go figure!) The Bent Pyramid can tell us many things about how and why these Pyramids were built. They tell us that anciant egyptians were not perfect, and very human. They worked on a trial and error concept. However the big question remains even when they got the Pyramids perfect(Giza) what was their function? They are not tombs and this has been proven. Many of the 138 Pyramids of Egypt are indeed tombs but not all of them. Clearly some of them had other purposes, and clearly some are mathematically perfect. So then theorizing begins.... because the Pyramids of Giza sit on a paticular latitude and longitude line, was this imminent to its function? The ancient egyptians believed the dark area of the night sky around which the stars seemed to revolve was the gateway to the heavens, one of the main shafts that extends from the main chamber through the entire body of the Great Pyramid points directly to the center of this point in the sky! could this mean they had witnessed omething decending from this point, and it was so incredible to these ancient people that they tried to build something so massive that maybe when this "something" came back from the sky that they would come to the Great Pyramid? I mean the possibilities are endless. Also as generations went on in Egypt after the Pyramids of Giza, the quality of pyramid building decreased significantly. Almost as if they forgot how to build them? Their ancestors never passed along the information on how to built them with sch precision? This leads me to believe ina huge generational gap, which is now wide open for theory. Now please let's have it, I want to hear what you all think pf the pyramids, not as tombs not even as energy devices, but what? and also open to theories on how they were built, nothing from hollywood movies please? lol and if AA did help, to what extent and why?

[lunarwing]

Hey Foxy....
It is my opinion that the great pyramid was never a tomb, and my gut has always told me the "sarcophagus" held something other than a body. I also think that the Giza Complex was built way before any egyptian showed up.... they only tried to copy what they saw at Giza after they migrated into the area... but never got it right because they did not know how it was done. All those pyramids that they date being built before the Great Pyramid were actually built afterwards.

Sorry Zawi ....

[Bob137]

On what the pyramids function was is a mystery still. I think that I would only have such a gigantic eco-system indestructible type structure built only if it served a very distinct and formidable purpose. To house and store and to contain whatever most precious, and with most importance most likely to the whole world, not just Egypt, and Egyptians, or more likely a more advanced civilization or Extraterrestrial. Just the building of the great monolithic structures is such a feat as to be able to only be accomplished by either an advanced civilization or extraterrestrials. So the purpose of the building is most likely of their origin and information, which we still to this day have not found the answers. In other words I can only guess as others who have gone before me, but I guess it is an informational energetic source to confuse the heck out of modern day man, for no other purpose than just to get us discussing the subject as to who, what, when, how, and why? Not an answer per se, but more of a questionable statement on the subject. Maybe A Temple for learning the path of the ascended, not the dead, or reincarnated, but ascended to a higher plane of existence!

[timeTraveler]

I completely agree with lunarwing. The Giza pyramids are far older than the rest of them. Were they built solely by extraterrestrial or in collaboration with ancient men is a minor issue. Most probably they used some kind of local help (consider for example Ezekiel ). It is however most obvious that even if humans used hi-tech tools, they did not have a clue what they really were and how they functioned.
When the aliens (for unknown reason) left and did not return, the people desperately tried to advance their return by all means they could. One of such attempts could have been to copy aliens’ important structures without actually knowing and/or understanding their true meaning and function. One such construction is Djoser’s step pyramid in Saqqara.

[Ace Rimmer]

Wow Foxy what a great trip that must have been.

I think they were built first too, the great pyramids Giza. Whatever the purpose, they were sure built to last.
I think they could have been a power plant or built to house something of great importance, but then if Aliens were invovled, why not just keep it on your ship.
Sometimes I think they wanted to keep something in, or keep something out, take your pick.
How about the Aliens were stuck on this planet and they were constructed to shoot some sort of beam out in space to signal for help! or...
People stranded on an island will write out S.O.S with rocks or whatever they have or signal fires, same if you are stuck in the dessert someplace, you want to be seen from the air.
Whatever the reason, they were sure built to last, they really wanted them to last forever.
"Incase we forget how to get back there, look for 3 giants pyramids in the desert."

[lunarwing]

Most probably they used some kind of local help (consider for example Ezekiel ). It is however most obvious that even if humans used hi-tech tools, they did not have a clue what they really were and how they functioned.

Agreed....

The aliens, or gods, must have trained early man in the art of stone working. It is said Enoch was taught certain skills by these gods and he in turn probably taught others. I can believe that some men learned better than others... you know... had the mind for it, while some did not. These skilled men could have been the start of the specialized stone masons.... who through the following years became the secretive order of masons.

[Nikola]

The power plant theory is very possible. There are many facts that point to such conclusion. The granite inside and limestone outside makes a perfect insulator. Under the plateau there is a network of water passages (aqua...something) which can provide an electric current etc., etc.

But what bothers me most is: why all of them are pointing to specific constellations? What's the connection? The need such enormous things to match the exact stars is NO way to be symbolic or coincidental. Or may be I'm thinking two-dimensional - the pyramids might have been built as a multifunctional devices?!

[Bob137]

It is possible that the pyramids were built as suggested as a portal, or a receiving device for transportation of beings from another galaxy to hear. They may be the real Stargate, not a circular device as played out in movies and shows, but maybe the so called rooms are designed for reception, and maybe the underground river sources were as proposed an energy source. Just think Osiris and Isis traveling back and forth from their home world to this one and revealing information to teach the people of time to make a better world for us, but it all went wrong when his brother decided to utilize us as slaves instead.

So many possibilities, so many questions?

[HALO 122]

....these were guidance and defense transmission structures. If I recall correctly, Book III (pages 167-172) describes how "Ninurta" entered the Great Giza Pyramid and ordered the destruction of various mineral and crystal stones that were mounted in the Grand Gallery and the core red "Destiny" stone mounted in a niche in the east wall. Apparently the niche is still there, along with the niches for the 27 other stones that were mounted in the Grand Gallery.

[aoi3610]

Hallo All,

Over the past couple of months I believe I have discovered exactly what the Great Pyramid was built for and how they built it.

Many years worth of previous research, including some of Erich's excellent books.

I was researching a completely different thing, Solar PV, the amount of Radiation that hits the earth at given points, with a view to increasing the efficiency of a Solar PV Product we are developing.

It all has to start somewhere, so this is it. It will take you 5 mins to read, and a while to comprehend.

During my research some how I got on to the "Eye Of Horus".

You all know it. The "Ray Gun", Lamp etc.

1 - 1/2 - 1/4 - 1/8 - 1/16 - 1/32 - 1/64

Google has some good pictures.

OK, so, I got out my periodic table and found that the diagram is a message containing a very rudementary Fusion Lamp, or so I thought.

This is how I see the "Eye Of Horus" (The materials were chosen by their relative density using the 1/2-1/4 etc principal)

Fraction - Length / Diameter - Material - Mass
1 130mm - Dry Earth - 130g
1/2 65mm - Lead - 16g (1/2 Radius)
1/4 32.5mm - Tin - 4g (1/4 Radius)
1/8 16.5mm - Aluminium - 2g (not in the R)
1/16 8.25mm - Silicon (Sand) - .5g (1/16 Radius)
1/32 4.125mm - Dark Wood
1/64 2.xxmm - Light Wood

If you follow the 1/2 - 1/4 etc throughout every aspect, and use a beer can as the Aluminium, you end up with a 105mm Pear shaped "pot" that kind of looks a lot like a Thurible, incense burner, with a 25mm "Spout". (It also has the same dimensional properties of Alladin's Lamp?)

65mm Sphere with a 32.5mm Sphere then an 8.25mm Sphere each on top of each other, surrounded by Dry Earth which is a shockingly good insulator.

The idea is Heat the Pot, the heat is forced in, it can't get out.
The pot is designed to amplify the heat to the top. It takes 2000 degrees or so to melt the silicon, but it does it with only 200 degrees input.

If it's left long enought The Lead will emit Neutrons, Protons & Electrons, into the Tin, then the Sand.

If you light the device at the spout once it's hot it will continue burning until you remove the heat source, and I can confirm it DOES light, even though there is nothing burnable in the pot.

If the pot is plated in Gold, then the external heat requirement is much less. Cold fusion.?

Anyway, onto the important bit, the Great Pyramid.

It follows the same exact principal.

1/64 - 1/2 - 1/4 - 1/16

Here we go:

Sub-terrainian level - Gold
Queens Chamber - Lead
Kings Chamber - Tin
Vent tunnels - Sand

The Portcullis was the "Switch" to shut off the sand which could be poured in the vent tunnels, to melt.

There is a "dropping" tunnel from the Queens chamber to the Sub-terrainian level, for the "nerly formed" gold to run down.

This was not only a nuclear reactor, but a Breeder, it creates it's own fuel. Gold.

If you do the math you find that the Queens chamber is "not quite" big enough for the materials in the "change" forcing the heavier stuff to fall to the bottom. Gold. In the end it would have pumped out the "main entrance" tunnel.

A GOLD MACHINE.

They did like gold.

It was built so that the Nile waters would keep the lower section cool enough that the pyramid didn't get too hot.

Beneath the Pyramid is a labyrinth of passageways for the waters to run around.

It may sound mad, but all the pieces fit only too well.

Thoughts?

[upperworld]

That's a really interesting theory, I understand the general concept. I just don't have the proper background to prove/test your theories. However from a motive standpoint, there is a lot backing the idea that a gold machine would have been of great importance.

Now to play devils advocate for a minute, if the Great Pyramid was just a gold machine what is the point of the all effort put into the astrological positions of the pyramid. I doubt that the location and orientation of the Great Pyramid was just a fluke, it has to have some significance.

[aoi3610]

That's a really interesting theory, understand the general concept. I just don't have the proper background to prove/test your theories. However from a motive standpoint, there is a lot backing the idea that a gold machine would have been of great importance.

Now to play devils advocate for a minute, if the Great Pyramid was just a gold machine what is the point of the all effort put into the astrological positions of the pyramid. I doubt that the location and orientation of the Great Pyramid was just a fluke, it has to have some significance.

Still working on that, however, just the thought of Fusion on such a massive scale, who knows.

If I wanted to get the very most I could from Mother natures planet I would build my Pyramid in Just the right place. As for the lining up of the stars, not sure yet, but why not, were they trying to tell us something.

That they were really clever?

The scary thing is, have you seen the Pyramids "true" power Source.

Look at it's location.

What is directly on the other side of the planet?

It is the Pacific Ocean, more specifically, the RING OF FIRE.

Imagine:

Get yourself a Planet Earth, pop yourself a really cool piece of Pyramid Tech on the Top and place it in a holder over a Bunson Burner.

See the analogy? If you look at it from "back a bit", I know the planet is huge, but you can see it.

Imagine the planet was a piece of crockery, where would the heat make it "crack"? Right where the Ring of fire is?

Strange, but true.

We have been fed a crock of bleep.

Read the Heiroglyphs for what they are, not what "historians" say they mean.

The mean exactly what they show. A square is a square etc.

e.g.

I've seen 3 different birds on "Cartouches", A Chick, An Eagle and an Owl.

Supposition

Chick - Learner
Eagle - Expert
Owl - Wise

Horizontal Wavy lines, water.
Round Ball - Sun
Upturned Dome - and upturned dome

Etc. Etc.

How can someone possibly think they could just change a picture for a letter?

The Cartouches are instructions, instructions I am attempting to understand.

The instructions on how to build various devices are there, Djed Amulet etc.

(Bonus Info)

Djed Amulet.

This was the device(s) used to "move" the Blocks.

The Design is the same, 1/2 - 1/4 - 1/16
The energy from the sun was transmitted through the Pillar to create a magnetic field, the blocks were placed on "Iron" carpets and floated to Gize.

The pillar has "cooling" fins, 1 for each "sphere".

How blind could we be?

[Nikola]

Great thinking. Makes one think: why have we been so obsessed with the gold since the old times?

I strongly recommend you to read "Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark" by Laurence Gardner (if you haven't done already), it's actually entirely based on a monatomic gold research and properties. And it's all connected tightly to Egypt and the ark stories.
Here is a video presentation of the book, long enough to explain the core idea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyAcgN_L ... re=related

[Ace Rimmer]

What an outstanding and well thought out theory. Welcome to the fourm by the way.
Has any gold residue ever been found in and/or around the pyramids ? or would there even be any left.

[aoi3610]

What an outstanding and well thought out theory. Welcome to the fourm by the way.
Has any gold residue ever been found in and/or around the pyramids ? or would there even be any left.

If there has, would it be long gone, and it it was, would they say?

The other pyramids served another purpose. The Afterlife / Re-incarnation.
(which is on the Cartouches - re: Scarab Beetle's and their unique propeties.)

The Great Pyramid is Unique.

[angeloneastralseed]

Why aren't we still making gold? You KNOW the powers in charge would jump on that one!

[nippur10]

I've been saying for years that the Great Pyramid was a reactor of some kind. I believe, though, that the technology was far in advance of what we have today. I also agree that the lower level (up to level 45) was under water because of the placement of the entrance. New research has found "retaining walls" around the pyramid and, certainly, the "processional causeways" served as aquaducts and not just ceremonial walkways. I posted in "the ascending passage" the reasons for the internal design and although I do not believe the pyramid was for gold production, it is , nevertheless, an interesting idea.

[aoi3610]

It is definately interesting.

I've done the math and it seems exceedingly strange that it fits the Eye of Horus theory so well.

The Portcullis design, way the Granite is in the place that would become "hottest", the drop to the lower chamber from the queens chamber.
The Cap that should not be their?

It would have had a flame I should think when running.

The Baghdad Battery by the way, not a battery, A heater and / or a Light.

They have it upside down!

The Iron Core stuck in the ground, much of which has rotted away. Ceramic / Copper casing?

Think about it, we do exactly the same thing, Copper / Ceramic / Electricity?

A different type of electricity tho, we use AC, they used Static, right out of the air.
Something else that pyrmaid would have created a lot of.

Duh. Were we just blind?

[aoi3610]

I've been saying for years that the Great Pyramid was a reactor of some kind. I believe, though, that the technology was far in advance of what we have today. I also agree that the lower level (up to level 45) was under water because of the placement of the entrance. New research has found "retaining walls" around the pyramid and, certainly, the "processional causeways" served as aquaducts and not just ceremonial walkways. I posted in "the ascending passage" the reasons for the internal design and although I do not believe the pyramid was for gold production, it is , nevertheless, an interesting idea.

The thoery is so simple.

The Eye of Horus uses the same principal as our planet, but on a smaller scale.

Blob of metal in the middle of Dry Earth, heat it up. The "Eye" then amplifies that into the Tin etc.

You cannot believe how insulative Dry Earth actually is until you play with it.
I was stunned.

Doh.

[aoi3610]

What an outstanding and well thought out theory. Welcome to the fourm by the way.
Has any gold residue ever been found in and/or around the pyramids ? or would there even be any left.

I have since you asked this found that the answer to the question is yes.

I see an Iron plate was recovered from between 2 of the Stone Blocks, it was confirmed as thought to have been fitted when the pyramid was built.

It has gold on 1 side.

It is currently in the British Museum in London.

Strange, but true.

Pyramid wise:
If you do the math on the elements mass it works out fine, Protons, Neutrons & Electrons wise.
1/64 - 1/2 - 1/4 - 1/16(continuing Silicon)

A light green phosperous flame would have burnt from the top.

I am surprised by the lack of response at this startling piece of information and what it means?

This is very new, not 14 days old, so don't expect it in the news. I am not a person of note, this will take some time to get to the public, even from now.

The science behind this, and if my calculations are correct, and I've done it lots of times, is going to be difficult to disprove.

We can do this now. In a Nuclear Reactor, I am not breaking in laws of physics here. They can transmute Lead into Gold now, albeit, it is not very profitable.

The pyramid is turning Silicon & Solar Energy into Gold, it is using thermal fission to transmute Lead into Gold, Tin into Antimoney, using Silicon as "Fuel" as it were.

It has 86000m2 of Surface area, all into heat, 4-5kwh, thats half a megawatt!! No energy conversion and it just builds and builds, limestone's better than Dry Earth, by 100%, It's gotta be 90% efficient I would think.

More if they used their favourite "Black" capping. (Which has been found around the base over the years)

The theory is sound I think?

There is more, but i'd be giving too much.

I'm still interested to hear your thoughts.

[aoi3610]

This has gone very quiet?

[upperworld]

I really do like the theory, even with its apparent flaws it is definitely something to consider. However without an ancient pyramid creator coming forward and patting you on the back you are going to have to create some type of similar device proving it can work, with the same materials (or similar) and with great enough efficiency that it would be worth the trouble to make something so massive. Then...there will be no choice but to accept your theory, until then there is nothing separating your "gold machine" concept from the list of other really good ideas as to what their purpose was. Though i think you have tombs beat already.

[Azure Butterfly Iheyu]

i agree with upperworld you may just be on to something if the math proves that it can be done then all that would need to be done is proving it by means of testing, making such a device ( though i get what you are saying its like a very long list of very big words to me ) now how would one go about building or designing something that will do what you say i think is the question now.

[DTM454]

Speaking of a GOLD FACTORY......

Betcha didn't know that when a star colapses and then goes supernova, it has converted much of its mass from iron to Gold, Silver and Platinum.

I saw about that just the other day.

[Bob137]

A gold machine, with your mathematics, and deciphering, sounds very logical. I too read the heiroglyphs different than mainstream archeology. I am not sayign they are wrong on everything, just that they are rioght on everything either! I hope you can build a scaled down model, and produce even just a timy bit of gold, if you do, let us know, so we too can build one, or buy one from you, so we can have all the gold we need also! Wouldn't it be great to make your own gold. I remember reading that the Egyptians were alchemists, making gold from lead, so maybe that is how they did it. I also remember reading about the middle east alchemists in ancient times making gold from lead also. I personaly wonder if the gold that some of the middle eastern countries seem to have so much of to sale in their countries now isn't made in a similar fashion, just on a smaller scale, and they keep it secret for their own benefit!

[upperworld]

It would have had a flame I should think when running.

The Baghdad Battery by the way, not a battery, A heater and / or a Light.

They have it upside down!

The Iron Core stuck in the ground, much of which has rotted away. Ceramic / Copper casing?

Think about it, we do exactly the same thing, Copper / Ceramic / Electricity?

A different type of electricity tho, we use AC, they used Static, right out of the air.
Something else that pyrmaid would have created a lot of.

Duh. Were we just blind?

Can you try explaining this a little better? I'm trying to wrap my head around what you are saying but i can't quite grasp it. I'm picturing some sort of static receptor. Are you saying these were some sort of ancient Van De Graff generators? (remember them Jeff?)

[vkbarefoot]

I am not an archeologist and I have not been to see the pyramids. My knowledge of the pyramids comes only from photos I have seen, information that I have read and television. Therefore, this idea is based only on my imagination.

I have read that there is evidence that, perhaps, the pyramids were built from blocks that have been poured. I have also read that there is no evidence of lamps inside the corridors. These would lend credence to my idea.

Is it possible that the pyramids were built one level at a time. Is it possible that the interior panels were built, carved and mostly finished outside the pyramids and then moved into the pyramids in the light of day while the current layer is open. Then the next layer is built, the panels and carvings are continually brought in to finish the corridors and chambers as they are built. This would minimize the number of artists and workers in the narrow hallways. It would explain why there is no evidence of burning lamps. I think it could answer questions that I don't even know are being asked.

It seems to me that if the pyramids required the skills of engineers, could it not be possible that the engineers were capable of including the hallways and chambers in the original plans.

I'd like to hear if you folks think this is a possible idea.

[mutatedannunaki]

not that I am an expert either, but how do you suppose they "created the interrior outside and moved it inside"?!

Maybe i'm just not understanding you right...

[vkbarefoot]

What I meant to say was perhaps they created the panels outside of the pyramid and moved them inside. Perhaps they did not carve and paint the panels inside the pyramids but outside. More rooms for artists and no need for artificial light.