New Crop Circle

[DTM454]

That's MY proof. If you have any tangible evidence to the contrary, I'd LOVE to see/hear/read it.

[b]Mystery solved!

I'm glad to see that you agree with me lunar.

Crop circles go waaaaaaaaaaay back into history. It is quite possible that Doug and Daves great geart great great great great grandfathers were responsible!

Is there any way you can post a link that talks about crop circles before like...1960? I honestly have never heard or read anything at all that talks about any ancient crop circles. Or even any that existed before the 60's.

I hope you do. If I find out that crop circles have been around for eons, that might go a long way towards changing what I think I know.

So PLEASE......anything at all. I'd truly LOVE to read it.

[Ace Rimmer]

Did you look at the links I supplied ? one is The Biophysics of Crop Circles and the other is the History of Crop Circles.

[DTM454]

Did you look at the links I supplied ? one is The Biophysics of Crop Circles and the other is the History of Crop Circles.

Nope, my dumb arse just skimmed right past them. I'll have to check them out over the next couple days and see what it says. I'm almost excited about it. Looking forward to getting back to you on the subject.

[Ace Rimmer]

Did you look at the links I supplied ? one is The Biophysics of Crop Circles and the other is the History of Crop Circles.

Nope, my dumb arse just skimmed right past them. I'll have to check them out over the next couple days and see what it says. I'm almost excited about it. Looking forward to getting back to you on the subject.

Oh great, I know we should be skeptical about all unknown things, but it is also good to look at as much info as there is on the subject.

[lunarwing]

I am not a internet guru.... I actually haven't started surfing the web until about a year ago. 99% of the things I post about here come from memory or books. Hey I'm a old fart.... and not any computer pro.

I was ahead of the curve in the beginning. I bought a Commadore 64 back in the very early eighties.... when DOS was on a cassette and you had to learn Cobalt in order to program your computer yourself. There were no disc's or windows. I was actually the first person on the Navy base to own a computer.... guys would come into my room and want to watch the game on the monitor! Now there are thousands of computers on the base.

I refused to have a computer... or video games.... in the house when my daughter was growing up. So through those years... computers "evolved" into what they are today... and I got left in the dust. (Maybe that is why my daughter is smarter than others her age) So please excuse my lack of surfing and linking abilities.

I will try and dig out my books on ancient myths and legends... and provide the stories that cover early fairy circles.

[Moon]

While I do keep an open mind on such things, I am still going to state they are man made unless they are proven otherwise. Humans have been seen making them, and the tools used are simple enough they could have been used hundreds if not thousands of years ago.

Still it is fun to ponder if they are communications from extraterrestrials or spectral beings.

The cannabis leaf proves they have a sense of humor at least.

[lunarwing]

I went out to the shed to look for my books on myths and legends. Man... I gotta clean that place out. I booked up all my stuff when I moved into the house I built a few years ago and never got around to setting my library back up.... maybe because I got tired of trying to "educate" those who were unaware of the ancient astronauts hypososis back then.

Tomorrow I am going to find those books and I'll post the real origins of the fairy circles.

[DTM454]

Tomorrow I am going to find those books and I'll post the real origins of the fairy circles.

I just did a quick Google search for "fairy circles." The only thing that fairy circles and crop circles seem to have in common is that they're both circles. Aside from that, they are CLEARLY two completely different things.

But just like crop circles, they are also obviously completely man made.

How much intelligence does it really take to arrange rocks in a circle? Or to stomp down grass in a field?

[Theory]

Is this what your talking about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_ring

http://www.ppdl.purdue.edu/PPDL/expert/Fairy_Rings.html

I'll keep looking, and see what else I can find..

This cracked me up...I had no idea that making crop circles were that darn easy....all you need is swing?(i think thats what the kid was using), draw out a design, take some measurements, and poof you got yourself a crop circle....and for some reason people think higher inteligence would waste time doing this...I mean no disrespect to all the believers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YFTU42vRNI

Here's a group of people that work hard on these circles..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puDF0hJp ... re=related

[DTM454]

I'm gonna need to make a spread sheet so I can keep track of who on here seemingly believes in what.

Once I get the spreadsheet completed to the best of my ability and get all you guys properly labelled, I'll post a copy so we can all have a quick reference guide to who believes what and why.

Should take a couple months to get completed.


MIRTH!

[Ace Rimmer]

I'm gonna need to make a spread sheet so I can keep track of who on here seemingly believes in what.

Once I get the spreadsheet completed to the best of my ability and get all you guys properly labelled, I'll post a copy so we can all have a quick reference guide to who believes what and why.

Should take a couple months to get completed.


MIRTH!

I don't think any of us are interested in being labeled for your convenience.

[Theory]

I'm gonna need to make a spread sheet so I can keep track of who on here seemingly believes in what.

Once I get the spreadsheet completed to the best of my ability and get all you guys properly labelled, I'll post a copy so we can all have a quick reference guide to who believes what and why.

Should take a couple months to get completed.


MIRTH!

I don't think any of us are interested in being labeled for your convenience.

I agree.

Metaluna, that is one freaky but cool avatar.

[Ace Rimmer]

Thanks Theory, on both counts!

[DTM454]

I'm gonna need to make a spread sheet so I can keep track of who on here seemingly believes in what.

Once I get the spreadsheet completed to the best of my ability and get all you guys properly labelled, I'll post a copy so we can all have a quick reference guide to who believes what and why.

Should take a couple months to get completed.


MIRTH!

I don't think any of us are interested in being labeled for your convenience.

It was a joke. Hence the "MIRTH" comment.

Loosen up a bit dude. (or dudette?) Seriously!

[Ace Rimmer]

I am beginning to understand your humor, nothing you say is to be taken seriously, I can live with that.

[DTM454]

I am beginning to understand your humor, nothing you say is to be taken seriously, I can live with that.

Exactly. Don't EVER take ANYTHING I say seriously! <-Except that......and that...etc...

[Serene]

That's going to make any attempt at having a serious discussion with you quite difficult, isn't it?

[Snowcat]

Does anyone think God (The Creator of the Universe) is heading up the Crop Circle Phenomenon?

[bveilleux]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4A9r9yKkkNs/T ... 010+UK.jpg

That crop circle you posted is almost a year old. I have seen it many times over the past couple months. I see you posted it was made a couple days ago, but i question the source where your information came from.

[bveilleux]

This link however, shows a crop circle found on Jan 23, 2011 in Indonesia.


http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/24/crop- ... ice-field/

[Moon]

Does anyone think God (The Creator of the Universe) is heading up the Crop Circle Phenomenon?

That is an interesting question. I do think it is possible a supernatural force could be responsible for some of the crop circles. My main feeling is they are human made, but I am open to this and other suggestions.

[yuya1963]

I am sure many of these are man made. But, there are some that cant so easly be explaned. Scientist's have found some strange stuff that does'nt make sence. So what i am saying is, there are some crop circles that can not be easly explaned, and therefore, can not be proven to be man made. And though you ( dtm454) truly believe that all are made by guys with nothing better to do, does not in any way prove some are not alien made. I for one am open to these ideals, but would not say hands down, man made. And untill science proves, one way or another, im on the fence.

[Bob137]

In my opinion to be closed minded as to just believe that all the crop circles are don by humans, and not even research the evidence to the contrary, is poor judgment and not very scientific, or open minded. I for one, have researched crop circles, and there are some that could not possibly have been done with any of our current technology in the time frame that they appeared, which was within a two hour span, and were so complicated to have taken a whole crew of 12 or more an eight hour period to do only a small portion, and it would still not have been done to the perfection, or with the evidence of changing the actual makeup of the crop! So to say that humans have done all these is silly. I do not wish to offend anyone here, but this is usually an open minded group of people who discuss such subjects not just decide without consideration, so if there is evidence of humans doing all of these, I would like to see it!

[OutsideBox]

http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/


I found this to be an interesting site. If you've already been there-sorry, just trying to contribute to this engaging discussion!

[Ace Rimmer]

In my opinion to be closed minded as to just believe that all the crop circles are don by humans, and not even research the evidence to the contrary, is poor judgment and not very scientific, or open minded. I for one, have researched crop circles, and there are some that could not possibly have been done with any of our current technology in the time frame that they appeared, which was within a two hour span, and were so complicated to have taken a whole crew of 12 or more an eight hour period to do only a small portion, and it would still not have been done to the perfection, or with the evidence of changing the actual makeup of the crop! So to say that humans have done all these is silly. I do not wish to offend anyone here, but this is usually an open minded group of people who discuss such subjects not just decide without consideration, so if there is evidence of humans doing all of these, I would like to see it!

I totally agree Bob, I too have done much reading on the subject over the years. I will completely agree with people that some have been man-made, but there are far too many crop circles that have strange anomalies that can't be explained, or can not have been cause by human's stomping down crops.

I can't say I know or believe they are made by UFOS, there could be some strange electrically phenomenon that is terrestrial in nature causing them.

Thanks for that link Outsidethebox.

[cavemanstyle]

Crop circles - Schmop Circles...

These things are clearly man - made. I give the probability of intricately designed wheat field fabrications to be less than .01% genuine.

A genuine impression made by a lander would most likely not be in a wheat field, and also not have any intelligent "design" to them.

A burn in the ground, or tri-pod like impressions made from a radioactive or regular heat source, yes... a design that looks like a knitting pattern.. Noooo..

Sorry guys.. crop circles to me have always been an anti-ufo phenomenon.

-Caveman

[Bob137]

Caveman, you can believe or disbelieve whatever, or whichever you choose! Though just because we communicate in certain ways, doesn't mean other life forms, especially if they maybe inter-dimensional, may chose to communicate in a way, that seems totally unconventional to us. Remember our species is fairly young, we are just now learning how to communicate mathematically, and we are still trying to learn how to communicate symbolically, even though our ancestors, had a pretty good handle on communicating that way. So many of the human species, think that every being in the universe, or in other dimensions, should think as we do, and communicate the way we think they should! Kind of Arrogant, if you ask me! Kinda of like our Annanki counterparts! In other words we are just like our forefathers or ET's! So if an ET, thinks we should communicate like them, but we do not, we think they should communicate like us, they do not, then I guess we will just not be able to communicate after all!

[OutsideBox]

Good several last postings on this thread Bob, I especially liked the last one when you made reference to beings from another dimension-I don't keep up with everything posted on this site, but I don't recall seeing them mentioned before(doesn't mean much as there is a lot I don't recall).

I do however, believe in their existence. Have you ever heard of Grigory Perelman and what he mathematically proved last sping? From my experience, crop circles seem to kind of fit in with something that they would do. I'm not trying to change the subject or anything, just throwing another theory out for people to ponder.

[Theory]

Caveman, you can believe or disbelieve whatever, or whichever you choose! Though just because we communicate in certain ways, doesn't mean other life forms, especially if they maybe inter-dimensional, may chose to communicate in a way, that seems totally unconventional to us. Remember our species is fairly young, we are just now learning how to communicate mathematically, and we are still trying to learn how to communicate symbolically, even though our ancestors, had a pretty good handle on communicating that way. So many of the human species, think that every being in the universe, or in other dimensions, should think as we do, and communicate the way we think they should! Kind of Arrogant, if you ask me! Kinda of like our Annanki counterparts! In other words we are just like our forefathers or ET's! So if an ET, thinks we should communicate like them, but we do not, we think they should communicate like us, they do not, then I guess we will just not be able to communicate after all!

I believe ET can communicate just fine with us without having to make designs in fields. I'm sure they know that there are people..alot of people that go around making these crop circles Plus, if we are their little pet project then of course they would know how to communicate with us, and for the ones who were not a part of this project probably got a Universe language/translation book when they were kids

[cavemanstyle]

Yahhhh, I know. I should really keep an open mind on the possible types of communication. It's just that I see so much of them being designed "too well"... as if it's an art show or something. I'd love to tell you I had evidence that they aren't being created by E.T.'s, it's just that I don't have data either way.

Now.. if you ask me if E.T. exists .. well, noww.. that's a whole different story

-Caveman

[Bob137]

If we have the technology to make these really large crop circles specifically designed, with advanced mathematics, and be able to effect the crops in the way they do, and some in just a couple of hours, then it would also not be cost effective, unless we have some billionaire that is bored, like Tony Stark of Iron Man doing this! Other than that, logically it ain't being done by any humans, because we just do not have the technology unless the Nazi's that came here had the foo fighter technology brought with them, and decided to use it to make crop circles around the world, to throw off UFO hunters, which is very unlikely! The ones that are being done by humans, are not being done in such a specific, and professional manner, and do not effect the crops that the others do! The crop circles made by humans, just lay the crops straight down, they are not twisted, or mutated, or interwoven, and they do not have a change in chemical makeup either, (so if the humans can do the same as the others to the crop circles), they haven't produced any so far! They have always wanted everyone to know which ones they did, and each and everyone they did are not as the other crop circles!

[Theory]

If ET did not know how to communicate with us and for whatever reason thought making designs in our fields as the best way to do so, then I would have to assume that they are a new type of ET that has never been here before and has no communication with any other ET. Given that I would have to say they are not Ancient Aliens, they are not our creator(if they did make us who we are), and they are not any other type of ET that has been around for awhile like the Greys.

Anyways, that is only my opinion.

[Randyrrr]

They are not only in Crops.
They have been in Ice in the middle of nowhere and sand in the middle of the desert.
Many were and are made by human activity but there is also enough science behind some, you have to wonder.

Watch some of the videos. They have magnetic fields, crops never growing again, depletion of batteries as so on.

[Theory]

Never heard about the ones in the sand and other places. I'll check and see what I can find on youtube. Thanks for mentioning that

[Ace Rimmer]

Never heard about the ones in the sand and other places. I'll check and see what I can find on youtube. Thanks for mentioning that

Here is a good site with lots of information.

About Crop Circles - The physical aspect