I am a:
32 Degree of The Scottish Rite
Knight Templar of The York Rite
Noble of the Mystic Shrine
And all that Illuminati stuff is crap! They "tried" to infiltrate the Freemasons around the time of the American Revolution but were discovered and banned. They were just another group of Masons that wanted to start their own group, but got in trouble because of their being double agents so to speak. They only were in existence for a short period of time and then fell by the wayside.
It does make for great fiction though!
I too believe the Freemasons are direct descendants from the Knight Templars. I have been to Roslyn Chapel in Scotland and it (the building itself) is a direct link between the two Fraternal Orders, although there were many years before October 13th, 1307 "Friday The Thirteenth" and the:
"The Oldest Masonic Lodge in the World Was Opened in 1599"
"The oldest Masonic Lodge in the world is the Lodge of Edinburgh No. 1, Edinburgh, Scotland...sometimes known as Mary's Chapel. In July, 1949, it observed its 350th anniversary of its establishment. In 2008, (at the time of this writing), Lodge of Edinburgh No. 1 is 409 years old."
Both in Scotland! What a coincidence!
Actually, they are only 6.51 miles apart.
Oh, BTW, Don't even go to the 33 Degree Mason. That is even more garbage.
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I did not mean to offend anyone and I am more than willing to discuss any of this with all of you. I am not the complete know-it-all about the groups, but I did spend the last 30+ years researching all of this stuff.
I became a Mason because I wanted to wear my dead father's Masonic ring. It seems silly, but I won't even wear a ball cap to something that I did not earn or belong to. At the same time I was deeply investigating secret societies and thought this would be a way to really find out what was going on and what the truth was. The secret is, there is no secret.
A long time ago, there was. Lives depended on being secret. This was after the Templars were betrayed and labeled as heretics and burned at the stake by The Catholic Church and France, Spain and a few other countries. This all was at the beginning of the Inquisition!
France and his “Puppet Pope” were heavily in debt to everyone and they saw all this huge amount of wealth in the coffers of the Knight Templars, so they created these lies and tried to grab the loot.
The Templars were very rich because by Papal Decree, they got to keep all of the spoils of their Crusades and they were also allowed to collect interest on loans, something no one else could do then in the Roman Catholic World. When you add up the huge amount of land and properties and figure in that the Templars had taken an oath of chastity and poverty, they never spent their money and it just piled up.
Not to mention that they were one of the first banking institutions and made interest on loans they made to people traveling to the Holy Land. If you traveled from Europe to Jerusalem with a chest of gold, you probably would not survive the journey. You would be robbed and killed, so they created a secret cipher, and took whatever money you needed over there and gave you an encrypted letter of credit. When you got to Jerusalem or wherever you were going, you just went to the “Temple” of the Templars and exchanged the note for the gold.
When they were betrayed by the Church, they had to run for their lives. Their secret signs and handshakes made it possible for these homeless Templars to get food and “Lodging” from their brothers and sympathizers. This is why the building that Freemasons meet in is called a “Lodge” There are thousands of things that you would never consider that come out of these times. Their “Horrible and Sadistic “sounding secret oaths that they took were no meant as a threat from one Mason to another, but these are the kind of terrible things that would happen to them (from the Church and Crowns) to them and their brothers if they were ever discovered. In those torture chambers of the Inquisition, there were some really horrible and sadistic things that were inflicted on you before they eventually killed you.
In the mid 1700s, the ancestors of these Knight Templars and the knower’s of the secrets just started to meet in public. This is when Freemasonry, The Illuminati and a dozen other fraternal orders started popping up everywhere. This was the Renaissance and the times of Enlightenment, when an average man could actually read the Bible himself and draw their own conclusions on what the different religions meant.
There is much, much more, but I don’t want to go on forever. I will tell you what I discovered and what I think, but I will not betray my oaths and it is not really necessary anymore. You guys can find the oaths on the Internet. I can always give you my interpretation of what I think it meant and why it was said.