Metaluna wrote:mobious13 wrote:I just wanted to know if I was alone in realizing this. If you stop and really think about it, its kind of eerie knowing this and seeing people gather every sunday singing hymns and reciting/quoting an alien history of planet earth. And being None the wiser. Oh, Im applying this to all religions, not just christianity.
You aren't alone....I think "you poor sad bastards!" Maybe that will offend some people, but that's how I feel. I of course know I don't have all the answers, and maybe I don't have any of the answers. But as I live and breathe, I am positive that isn't the answer to the big question. Sitting in a church and praying to God.
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When I read this I can only reflect upon all the derision and accusations that have been sent my way about my "style of expression". I cannot even imagine what the reaction might be if I even said anything vaguely similar to anyone here.
Nevertheless, and I know before I even begin, that this will cause great angst among some particular people here, and perhaps even get me banned, but, all I can think is "you poor sad bastards, how totally clueless you are."
Just about the only thing some people have gotten right here is the existence of "aliens", beyond that, some of these exact same people are just as clueless as most everyone else concerning these matters of religion and especially worship. What some people think is "common sense". Is total bull.
On this level, where we find ourselves in this long, long nearly infinite journey there is only one avenue to commune with our creator. That avenue is prayer and worship. There is no other way. No messages in a bottle, no spaceships to the heavenly abode, no radio signals, nothing. Just prayer and worship. Words have no effect. God responds to the attitude of the personality, the intent.
Somehow, somewhere in this jaded existence of ours we have become arrogant. One need only look at the relationship of a loving parent and their child to understand what is going on with true worship and the validity of this experience for all created intelligences. Even Jesus stated and a child shall lead them. This is what he was talking about.
There is no conflict between belief in aliens and expressions of religion. Just as some so-called scientists bash the believers in aliens and Intelligent Design, many of the same people who believe in aliens bash all religion as evil or stupid. Religious expression is evolving on this planet just like everything else. Sure, many religions have faults but there are many things they have correct. One such thing is prayer and worship. Because so many people are totally ignorant of what is really going on in the universe, they are unable to discern what is valid and what is a lie.
Let me take you on a little journey sometime in the future, perhaps a million years from now or most probably more to show you a picture of what you might experience and what many of us already know as truth regarding prayer and worship.
27:7.5 All the arts of all the beings of the entire universe which are capable of intensifying and exalting the abilities of self-expression and the conveyance of appreciation, are employed to their highest capacity in the worship of the Paradise Deities. Worship is the highest joy of Paradise existence; it is the refreshing play of Paradise. What play does for your jaded minds on earth, worship will do for your perfected souls on Paradise. The mode of worship on Paradise is utterly beyond mortal comprehension, but the spirit of it you can begin to appreciate even down here on Urantia, for the spirits of the Gods even now indwell you, hover over you, and inspire you to true worship.
There are appointed times and places for worship on Paradise, but these are not adequate to accommodate the ever-increasing overflow of the spiritual emotions of the growing intelligence and expanding divinity recognition of the brilliant beings of experiential ascension to the eternal Isle. Never since the times of Grandfanda have the supernaphim been able fully to accommodate the spirit of worship on Paradise. Always is there an excess of worshipfulness as gauged by the preparation therefor.
And this is because personalities of inherent perfection never can fully appreciate the tremendous reactions of the spiritual emotions of beings who have slowly and laboriously made their way upward to Paradise glory from the depths of the spiritual darkness of the lower worlds of time and space. When such angels and mortals of time attain the presence of the Powers of Paradise, there occurs the expression of the accumulated emotions of the ages, a spectacle astounding to the angels of Paradise and productive of the supreme joy of divine satisfaction in the Paradise Deities. Sometimes all Paradise becomes engulfed in a dominating tide of spiritual and worshipful expression. Often the conductors of worship cannot control such phenomena until the appearance of the threefold fluctuation of the light of the Deity abode, signifying that the divine heart of the Gods has been fully and completely satisfied by the sincere worship of the residents of Paradise, the perfect citizens of glory and the ascendant creatures of time.
What a triumph of technique! What a fruition of the eternal plan and purpose of the Gods that the intelligent love of the creature child should give full satisfaction to the infinite love of the Creator Father! After the attainment of the supreme satisfaction of the fullness of worship, you are qualified for admission to the Corps of the Finality. The ascendant career is well-nigh finished, and the seventh jubilee prepares for celebration. The first jubilee marked the mortal agreement with the Thought Adjuster when the purpose to survive was sealed; the second was the awakening in the morontia life; the third was the fusion with the Thought Adjuster; the fourth was the awakening in Havona; the fifth celebrated the finding of the Universal Father; and the sixth jubilee was the occasion of the Paradise awakening from the final transit slumber of time. The seventh jubilee marks entrance into the mortal finaliter corps and the beginning of the eternity service. The attainment of the seventh stage of spirit realization by a finaliter will probably signalize the celebration of the first of the jubilees of eternity.
And thus ends the story of the Paradise supernaphim, the highest order of all the ministering spirits, those beings who, as a universal class, ever attend you from the world of your origin until you are finally bidden farewell by the conductors of worship as you take the Trinity oath of eternity and are mustered into the Mortal Corps of the Finality.
The endless service of the Paradise Trinity is about to begin; and now the finaliter is face to face with the challenge of God the Ultimate.
27:7.11 [Presented by a Perfector of Wisdom from Uversa.]
..just kidding 
To me this is what GOD is, not what religions teach. In regards to religions I personally believe that the majority of all their experiences were of an ET type, that some were possibly of the type of a spiritual experience such as St Francis of Assisi, but most of religions preach of mind control, and if you do something wrong, you will be punished, which to me, is just BS! I have read of numerous people throughout history that have spiritual experiences such as I have had, and many people still are, and they are not saints, or a messiah, or anything of the sort, just normal everyday people who have had an experience, and live amongst us, and aren't writing a Bible, or a Koran, or anything of the sort, to control people, or to get them to live their way, or to make them bow down and kiss their you know what's, or give them money, or be put on a pedestal. In fact most people throughout history that have had such experiences were murdered by religious people, and the churches, to include Christianity, Islam, and Judaism!