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coomba98 wrote:Without going into all the ancient texts and opinions, scientific facts only....
Ancient Rome is the earliest known culture of white peole? Say 2,100 years ago?
Majeston wrote:thesaint wrote:Majeston wrote:The Urantia Book
Paper 64
THE EVOLUTIONARY RACES OF COLOR
http://www.truthbook.com/index.cfm?linkID=1311#U64_5_2
lol there are some many things wrong with the information in that link my mind is blown.
You have been refering back to this book in almost all your post. Do you believe that this book is the only truth?
If you believe there is anything in error you should state exactly what is in error and back it up with supporting documentation. You may find disagreements with current daily changing theories but as new accurate scientific discoveries are made, they ALWAYS change to reflect the information in the Urantia revelation.
To answer your question, after 45 years of in depth research I know there are no errors in it. There is one typo and one instance of human typesetting error. Besides that you can rely on all 2097 pages of information as factual and spiritual truth.
Many thousands of people including some of the finest scientific minds on Earth has already travelled the skeptical road you propose and all come away with the same result, so don't think you are original or travelling virgin ground. Scientific "Theories". In one form or another change on a daily basis, the Urantia revelation does not. Before you do too much more LOLing you might want to do a little more in depth RESEARCHing. Just a suggestion mind you.
Theory wrote:holy schmolys that is more than I thought!omg, could you imagine what that list would look like with all the ones before the 20th century and the ones we don't know about, good grief!!
Majeston wrote:Without God, without religion, scientific secularism can never co-ordinate its forces, harmonize its divergent and rivalrous interests, races, and nationalisms.
http://www.truthbook.com/index.cfm?linkID=1327
9. THE THREE WHITE RACES
80:9.1 The racial blends in Europe toward the close of the Andite migrations became generalized into the three white races as follows:
1. The northern white race. This so-called Nordic race consisted primarily of the blue man plus the Andite but also contained a considerable amount of Andonite blood, together with smaller amounts of the red and yellow Sangik. The northern white race thus encompassed these four most desirable human stocks. But the largest inheritance was from the blue man. The typical early Nordic was long-headed, tall, and blond. But long ago this race became thoroughly mixed with all of the branches of the white peoples.
The primitive culture of Europe, which was encountered by the invading Nordics, was that of the retrograding Danubians blended with the blue man. The Nordic-Danish and the Danubian-Andonite cultures met and mingled on the Rhine as is witnessed by the existence of two racial groups in Germany today.
The Nordics continued the trade in amber from the Baltic coast, building up a great commerce with the broadheads of the Danube valley via the Brenner Pass. This extended contact with the Danubians led these northerners into mother worship, and for several thousands of years cremation of the dead was almost universal throughout Scandinavia. This explains why remains of the earlier white races, although buried all over Europe, are not to be found—only their ashes in stone and clay urns. These white men also built dwellings; they never lived in caves. And again this explains why there are so few evidences of the white man's early culture, although the preceding Cro-Magnon type is well preserved where it has been securely sealed up in caves and grottoes. As it were, one day in northern Europe there is a primitive culture of the retrogressing Danubians and the blue man and the next that of a suddenly appearing and vastly superior white man.
2. The central white race. While this group includes strains of blue, yellow, and Andite, it is predominantly Andonite. These people are broad-headed, swarthy, and stocky. They are driven like a wedge between the Nordic and Mediterranean races, with the broad base resting in Asia and the apex penetrating eastern France.
For almost twenty thousand years the Andonites had been pushed farther and farther to the north of central Asia by the Andites. By 3000 B.C. increasing aridity was driving these Andonites back into Turkestan. This Andonite push southward continued for over a thousand years and, splitting around the Caspian Sea and Black seas, penetrated Europe by way of both the Balkans and the Ukraine. This invasion included the remaining groups of Adamson's descendants and, during the latter half of the invasion period, carried with it considerable numbers of the Iranian Andites as well as many of the descendants of the Sethite priests.
By 2500 B.C. the westward thrust of the Andonites reached Europe. And this overrunning of all Mesopotamia, Asia Minor, and the Danube basin by the barbarians of the hills of Turkestan constituted the most serious and lasting of all cultural setbacks up to that time. These invaders definitely Andonized the character of the central European races, which have ever since remained characteristically Alpine.
3. The southern white race. This brunet Mediterranean race consisted of a blend of the Andite and the blue man, with a smaller Andonite strain than in the north. This group also absorbed a considerable amount of secondary Sangik blood through the Saharans. In later times this southern division of the white race was infused by strong Andite elements from the eastern Mediterranean.
The Mediterranean coastlands did not, however, become permeated by the Andites until the times of the great nomadic invasions of 2500 B.C. Land traffic and trade were nearly suspended during these centuries when the nomads invaded the eastern Mediterranean districts. This interference with land travel brought about the great expansion of sea traffic and trade; Mediterranean sea-borne commerce was in full swing about forty-five hundred years ago. And this development of marine traffic resulted in the sudden expansion of the descendants of the Andites throughout the entire coastal territory of the Mediterranean basin.
These racial mixtures laid the foundations for the southern European race, the most highly mixed of all. And since these days this race has undergone still further admixture, notably with the blue-yellow-Andite peoples of Arabia. This Mediterranean race is, in fact, so freely admixed with the surrounding peoples as to be virtually indiscernible as a separate type, but in general its members are short, long-headed, and brunet.
In the north the Andites, through warfare and marriage, obliterated the blue men, but in the south they survived in greater numbers. The Basques and the Berbers represent the survival of two branches of this race, but even these peoples have been thoroughly admixed with the Saharans.
This was the picture of race mixture presented in central Europe about 3000 B.C. In spite of the partial Adamic default, the higher types did blend.
Majeston wrote:I,ve read it Max. You and a few other people here should reread it as well and stop applying double standards. If you have something in particular to say then don,t be bashful, come right out and say it. If I inadvertantly say something that offends you then point it out and if it is valid I will be the first to offer my apologies. You should do the same.
maxmercury wrote:Majeston wrote:I,ve read it Max. You and a few other people here should reread it as well and stop applying double standards. If you have something in particular to say then don,t be bashful, come right out and say it. If I inadvertantly say something that offends you then point it out and if it is valid I will be the first to offer my apologies. You should do the same.
How am I applying double standards to you?
I will gather up the examples and provide them in another post, if that,s alright with you.
All I am getting at is to be more civil to others here. We do not need members talking down to each other. I am not calling you any names here and I do agree with some of your statements about science and religion combining forces. I actually agree our civilization has gone toward a materialistic route and has forgotten the spiritual side of mankind.
I will get the Urantia Book and read it cover to cover before I comment about it. I have only read the portions you put up here (computer screens can tire out my eyes so I am getting the book version).
I won't comment until after I have read it. How is that for a peace offering?
. LoL, well friend, that,s at least a beginning. . But, are you sure you can wait that long, it will take you at least a year to read it all and then at least 2 more readings and a few years of research before you really begin to be able to make insightful comments. Here,s an example for you, this gentleman has summa cum-laude Phd degrees in physics and mathematics, as well as numerous other intensive fields of study including religion, he set out in 1990 to disprove the revelation. He has now been teaching it for several years and will tell you with confidence there are no errors. He speaks the truth.
http://perfectinghorizons.org/
But, Lloyd, don,t do this peace offering for me, this is for you.
Lloyd
coomba98 wrote:Hay I been entertaining this thought for a while now. I have studied it a bit but not that much.
As a white man I have thought, where is our homeland?
Afrians have... well Africa.
Orientals have... Asia manor.
Indians have.....Indus valley.
Am Indians have.. America. ( after taking away the theory of migration from Africa or Europe, as dont think this is fact yet. )
Then we have the white man. Were is our homeland? England. No we migrated their. Then you look into Europe and all early
cultures re: africans, asians and indians were already their 1st and set up shop!
My only logical conclusion is that we headed for the caves for thousands of years only to emerge white. lol. or;
We are a result of the interbreading of the AA's. Their personal sex slaves and we are their offspring. But then this a few holes in it as well.
Does anyone here know or have an opinion on where the white man came. As it seems from history we just popped up.
The Ancients from Nibiru are the 6th race of our sun system. Arnold Enge (2011) unless there's more than one race from Nibiru![]()
coomba98 wrote:.... No wonder we are so violent! Like a child who does not have anything and see's a rich kid with everything..... I want that!! I want that!! War, invasion, plunder, slavery.. now mine!
To be honest, sometimes its abit depressing seeing the history of how white man spread accross the planet in a brutal, violent, occupational way. And were still doing it!
Polaris wrote:Snip....... If they only accepted the fact that the Ancient Aliens created the five races equally, we can finally start on the journey to reach our potential...
coomba98 wrote:Majeston,
Show me any two people from the same race that is considered equal. and then in what.
Does these two people have the same skills in the all the same activities? cooking, sport, etc, etc.
individuals are different, even identical twins cannot be concidered equal. As one may have a skill the other does not,
or knowledge and so on. And then their better at said skill but the other is better at this and so on.
Biological, overall where pretty much the same, apart from the obvious. All races have defects, morons, geniuses, troublemakers etc, etc.
No race is better then another. Individual people are, and then only at some skill or knowledge.
Majeston wrote:Polaris wrote:Snip....... If they only accepted the fact that the Ancient Aliens created the five races equally, we can finally start on the journey to reach our potential...
Just curious friend, where did you get this "FACT " that 5(sic) races were created EQUALLY? Randomly choose any two persons from any race and please show what they are "equal" about.
Polaris wrote:coomba98 wrote:Majeston,
Show me any two people from the same race that is considered equal. and then in what.
Does these two people have the same skills in the all the same activities? cooking, sport, etc, etc.
individuals are different, even identical twins cannot be concidered equal. As one may have a skill the other does not,
or knowledge and so on. And then their better at said skill but the other is better at this and so on.
Biological, overall where pretty much the same, apart from the obvious. All races have defects, morons, geniuses, troublemakers etc, etc.
No race is better then another. Individual people are, and then only at some skill or knowledge.
Explaining concepts via email is difficult at the best of times, I guess that is why books are written and conferences are organized.
My statement of equally was meant to describe each race contributes equally to make the whole, which your last sentence sums up nicely...
Combined posts. Administration and Moderators can delete future double posts. Please use the edit function and add to the last post or wait until someone else has posted-MMMajeston wrote:Polaris wrote:Snip....... If they only accepted the fact that the Ancient Aliens created the five races equally, we can finally start on the journey to reach our potential...
Just curious friend, where did you get this "FACT " that 5(sic) races were created EQUALLY? Randomly choose any two persons from any race and please show what they are "equal" about.
My last post I think clarifies my intent... I certainly wasn't referring to individuals. However, this raises another issue... how did the ancients teach individual responsibility? I am leaning towards the use of astrology, one's sign gives one a sense of belonging to the whole and all the descriptors that accompany each sign. I have noticed that the Sumerians used it as did the Indus' (Indians) and Sinos (Asians) have each 12 signs - it is still in use today! Do you think these three races had common ancestors?
coomba98 wrote:Polaris,
Thanks for your post. I know white man has been everywhere on the planet that all other races have been.
The only thing is that the other races were there first. And they had civilisation!
My understanding of Noah being described as white, the Bible also states that he mirrors the image of the Watchers.
Aka Angels aka Gods. If we go by the Bible alone then all humans decended from Noah. Therfore all humans should be white.
Not the case.
DivineQueer wrote:coomba98 wrote:Polaris,
According to the official version of History, that is, yes. However, if going by what ancient texts says, then the white race is evidently much older than official Historians wishes to admit. How much older, are, however, the question, but the fact that ancient blonde and redhaired Mummies, depictions, figurines and other artefacts have been found both in Ancient Egypt, China, Sumer and the whole of Mesopotamia, is very revealing.
I I do not believe the white man is an older race in the history books or texts. Humans where always discribed as the blacked headed race, and as we were more suited to this planet and had darker skin so we coud do more outside work for the 'Gods'.
e.g. Half Homo-erectus half Alien. Or their abouts. White man did not pop up time Rome in my opinon. Civilisation wise. Society wise. Greek, Mesopotamia, were all black har tanned skin. ( Dont get sucker'd in to Hollywood stereotypes. )My understanding of Noah being described as white, the Bible also states that he mirrors the image of the Watchers.
Aka Angels aka Gods. If we go by the Bible alone then all humans decended from Noah. Therfore all humans should be white.
Not the case.
I believe it is rather a half-truth; Noah may have been ONE of the surviving individuals that certain bloodlines stretches back to, but as Flood stories is also occurring over the whole Globe, including Africa, Greece, Egypt and China to mention only a very few of the destinations, then it must also be considered safe to assume that people of those ethnicities also survived, hence the diversity of races even in Post-Flood times.
Polaris wrote:DiveineQueer, et al,
Agreed the Jews trace their roots to Noah. I would be interested in where the Christians and the Muslims trace their roots.
Any ideas?
Hi Bob,
How are you doing with your genealogy study of the Blue race? Were you able to key into the hint about the Basques and the Berbers? This might be an excellent source for you to research.
There are several references to the Cro-Magnon Blue race.
When I first came across the blue Fugates family in Kentucky,About 20 years ago, I read that one of their family members was undergoing some medical treatments to change his skin color. I wrote to him telling him that it was most likely normal for him and included the blue race information from the Urantia revelation. I never found out where he went from there.
Polaris wrote:Not sure if we solved the original question or at least arrived at a consensus.
Going backwards in time, the last definitive place they came from was Europe and Russia.
Before that S. Europe (greece, italy etc) and western asia (slavic countries, turkey)
Before that you have to use their religions to trace them:
Christianity and Judeaism, +/- Islam (are the muslims currently considered white? probably not)
The middle east is where christianity and judeasim sprang from,
Thus the white man must have come from Sumeria (modern day Iraq)
P.S. I believe the homeland of the white man is Europe and Russia.
coomba98 wrote:With my limited knowledge of this subject i understand that the Greeks and Mesopotamia were dark skinned and black hair.






Its only in the hollywood movies that their white and blonde.
Think of the latest Prince of Persia movie for one example. White man playing Persians!! What a joke.
If we went back in time 1,700 years to the mythological era, all Iranians would look like Jake Gyllenhaal,” noted the Disney Middle Eastern consultant.
AnuAtlantian wrote:Noah is the earliest described white guy (book of enoch ch. 106), is described with skin white as snow, bright eyes, unlike us and resembles the angels (annunaki, elohim).
His direct line 10th generation - Abraham is the grandfather of the 12 families of the nation of israel.
Others also survived the deluge, born from the Angels that make the rest of the races of mankind.
All survivors are demigods to enhance the DNA of the now more advanced humans today more than humans before Adam and Eve
Before the new civilized homosapiens Adam and Eve(adapa a demigod offspring of enki), humans before adam(Adapa), were more primative like the caveman for 250,000 years
Adam and eve till now is our new demigod species of civilized human about 8,500 years old.
Thats my story on different races on Earth
coomba98 wrote:Hay I been entertaining this thought for a while now. I have studied it a bit but not that much.
As a white man I have thought, where is our homeland?
Afrians have... well Africa.
Orientals have... Asia manor.
Indians have.....Indus valley.
Am Indians have.. America. ( after taking away the theory of migration from Africa or Europe, as dont think this is fact yet. )
Then we have the white man. Were is our homeland? England. No we migrated their. Then you look into Europe and all early
cultures re: africans, asians and indians were already their 1st and set up shop!
My only logical conclusion is that we headed for the caves for thousands of years only to emerge white. lol. or;
We are a result of the interbreading of the AA's. Their personal sex slaves and we are their offspring. But then this a few holes in it as well.
Does anyone here know or have an opinion on where the white man came. As it seems from history we just popped up.
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