The purpose of the pyramids (theories by members)

[timeTraveler]

There is almost infinite number of all possible and impossible hypotheses about the purpose of the Great Pyramids. I am going to add one to that list. It is quite possible (actually quite probable) that someone has suggested this earlier but I have not come across that one yet.

My thinking start from an assumption:
• No-one would have constructed those big pyramids just for some abstract or symbolic reason.

For more so because the fact that Kings chamber has made the work far more complicated than with out it. So if the pyramid would stand for some non functional reason it definitely would not contain Kings Chamber.

Starting from this assumption then the next question is what could be the functional purpose that pyramids could be used.

I will completely omit all nonsense of the tomb of Egyptian pharaoh. This explanation has so many weaknesses that we can bypass it now.

Starting from a assumption that it was built by aliens from space the most natural assumption is that these building had some function usage and that they were not built just for sake of mathematics and geometry.

My deduction continues to the direction of some kind of instrument. If these were some kind instruments, then it is evident that there we built massive to sustain all kind of outside forces and/or the hade to deal with high energy levels.

Would these constructions have served as some king space traveling lighthouse or some kind of commutation instruments?

We I try to continue this line of assumptions, the next thing that comes in my mind is could the King Chamber have served for some kind radiation source?

If it contained high frequency radiator, how the beams would react to pyramid shape.
As I understand, the shape would act like a huge rectifier. The polished surface of the pyramid and the slight convergence of the edges support this assumption.

So one could image that space travelers approaching the earth and aiming to land somewhere in south America (like in Nazcan plains) would have corrected the approach according to the signal received from the pyramid.

[amnesiac]

interesting and to me more possible than "tomb theory"

It also came to my mind years ago that what if these structures were some kind of machine, simply some sort of device and their purpose has been just forgotten in history or maybe the records or manuals ( how to use it) are somewhere hidden in deep museum basements or haven`t been discovered yet from the sand of Egypt desert.

[Jeff Sheets]

The rectifier idea might support the Siva theory.

The Siva theory is that the pyramids were the ground posts for power generation via the Van Allen belts. The idea is that if the solar wind powered Van Allen belts (that provide us with the northern and southern lights), were to be harnessed and grounded to earth, the Pyramids would be the perfect shape to do the job.

The original theory required satellites and lasers as conduits to beam the power differential down to the pyramids. However, you could accomplish the same thing with a conductive solar sail, spread out as a blanket at the correct height to absorb electrons from the van Allen radiation, The blanket connected to a geosynchronous space tether and then connected to the gold capstone at the top of the pyramid. The constant differential energy would be that of a large lightning storm. It could rival the power output of the Hoover Dam at full capacity.

The theory is that there were so many of these operating in the world that it flipped the planetary magnetic poles causing the great deluge of 12,000 BC.

This concept would explain the construction of the kings chamber as an acoustic space. The resistance of the pyramid itself could be lowered by using the Piezoelectric effect. The act of providing the correct pitch that resonates with the chamber causes less resistance (more generation).

This power is transmitted through the air as Tesla radiation, causing any coil of wire nearby to produce electricity. In the Temple of Hathor, for example, these coils were called "Djed" and powered mercury vapor lighting. I wonder if the Ark of the Covenant and the Tower of Babel, among other things, were also recipients of this power.

Well that is the theory anyway. I will try and post the book where this theory first appeared, later when I can look it up.

[subsailor393]

There is a big part of the pyamids missing. Casing stones. What was there perpose. They were polished and set..as some say to correct to true north. But would they have reacted to the sun and starts. They say that earthquakes brough them down and then they were carried off for other uses by the locals. I think what we have here is a broken and partly dismantaled piece of equipment left behind by AA's It was further dismantaled so I think all we have is a pile of rocks..nicely piled. Some what like a car left out in the woods. Come back after time and it would not be see for what it was? Anyway just a though.

[Surreal Killer]

That is a good point. There could be more than just casing stones missing. We will probably never know what the real purpose was.

[wildbill]

Well that is the theory anyway. I will try and post the book where this theory first appeared, later when I can look it up.

Have you had any luck locating this book? This sounds like a very interesting read!

Wild Bill

[Sagittarii]

if it's not a tomb how do you explain the sarcophagus in the kings chamber?

the entrance to the kings chamber is so small you couldnt get it in there so the kings chamber must have been built around the sarcophagus.

[amnesiac]

who says it is sarcophagus ??

we dont know. As far as I know nothing was found there and to me the bigger problem with a tomb theory that theres no any drawings or hieroglyphs anywhere whatsoever in the pyramid, but they are everywhere else on other places where real tombs were found with a lot of evidence. I think we have to see this important difference between "real tombs" and other places which are called tombs, but they are probably not in fact....for many reasons

[Jeff Sheets]

Hey Wildbill,

I have a copy of the book, but it is no longer in print. I have mentioned the possibility of trying to republish the book to Giorgio, but I guess the effort to locate and negotiate would be huge...

Maybe I should just scan it and make it available...and wait to see if I am sued? That will locate the owner pretty quick.

[neorealist]

seems very interesting...please post if we come across this book

[wildbill]

Hey Wildbill,

I have a copy of the book, but it is no longer in print. I have mentioned the possibility of trying to republish the book to Giorgio, but I guess the effort to locate and negotiate would be huge...

Maybe I should just scan it and make it available...and wait to see if I am sued? That will locate the owner pretty quick.

LOL!! Yes it would indeed!! But, if the book is old enough, wouldn't any copyright laws have expired, thus allowing you to scan it and put it on the web for all to see?

Anyways, that figures it is no longer in print. Of course, I have to sell of few of my non-sensical items **cough comic books cough** before I have money to buy real books.

Wild Bill

[Giorgio Tsoukalos]

if it's not a tomb how do you explain the sarcophagus in the kings chamber?

It is not a sarcophagus. Milos is correct.

Has anyone read Christopher Dunn's THE GIZA POWER PLANT?

Here, he describes in compelling detail that the great pyramid is a gigantic energy device. First, he demonstrates that sophisticated machining must have been used to create the chambers within the pyramid and then reveals that it was a large acoustical device. By its size and dimensions, this crystal edifice created a harmonic resonance with the earth and converted earths vibrational energies to microwave radiation.

The Giza Power Plant presents ample evidence that many stone artifacts found in Egypt could only have been produced using highly precise and sophisticated machine tools. The question then becomes, "what powered these machine tools and where is their power source?" To answer this question we delve into the Great Pyramid of Giza with a thorough analysis of its inner chambers, architectural and construction characteristics, anomalous substances, and unusual artifacts carelessly noted or closely scrutinized by researchers in the past. This analysis leads us to the conclusion that the Great Pyramid was actually built to serve as a machine. A machine that provided power to the civilization that built it and invested so much time and energy.

Compelling stuff.

Oh, and in case you don't have the book in your collection yet:

http://www.legendarytimesbooks.com/prod ... t=0&page=1

Your direct support is greatly appreciated!

[Surreal Killer]

I have not read Christopher Dunn's "The Giza Power Plant". However, I have read other books that talked about it. "Technology of the Gods" by David Hatcher Childress and "Before the Pharaohs" by Edward F. Malkowski. The power plant theory is amazing to say the least!! I definitely recommend people reading up on it. More research needs to be done in this area. It is a very plausible theory. I don't remember, but does the power plant theory include the pyramid filling up with water and conducting electriciy? I may be thinking of another theory.

About the sarcophagus. It was just assumed to be that. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think any treasure, mummy, or even artwork has ever been found in a pyramid. That is all a misconception reinforced by the media. And, of course, the fact that nothing has been found in a pyramid would be strong evidence that they weren't meant to be tombs.

[nathanallan]

I firmly believe in the power plant ideas, it only makes sense that it was perfected long ago by people who are now gone. Tesla did it, but it was impractical because there was no way to charge people. So a huge discovery, or rather a rediscovery, was thwarted by the want of money (at least in Tesla's case).

Drawing from the Van Allen belts is a new one on me, though. I will definitely have to get a copy of this book! Thanks for the tip, Giorgio!

By the way, hiya guys, it's been a while and a lot has happened, but hopefully I'll be posting here regularly again. I saw the special on the History channel the other night, so I had to get back here.

Nathan

[neorealist]

I firmly believe in the power plant ideas, it only makes sense that it was perfected long ago by people who are now gone. Tesla did it, but it was impractical because there was no way to charge people. So a huge discovery, or rather a rediscovery, was thwarted by the want of money (at least in Tesla's case).

Drawing from the Van Allen belts is a new one on me, though. I will definitely have to get a copy of this book! Thanks for the tip, Giorgio!

By the way, hiya guys, it's been a while and a lot has happened, but hopefully I'll be posting here regularly again. I saw the special on the History channel the other night, so I had to get back here.

Nathan

Do you know where I can get more info regarding that? Never heard of it before...TY

[nathanallan]

sure, it's over at wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_energy_transfer, known for a long time, but it can cause health problems (as we know with celphones, high tension power lines and such). Neat concept that could be refined.

[upperworld]

if it's not a tomb how do you explain the sarcophagus in the kings chamber?

It is not a sarcophagus. Milos is correct.

Has anyone read Christopher Dunn's THE GIZA POWER PLANT?

Here, he describes in compelling detail that the great pyramid is a gigantic energy device. First, he demonstrates that sophisticated machining must have been used to create the chambers within the pyramid and then reveals that it was a large acoustical device. By its size and dimensions, this crystal edifice created a harmonic resonance with the earth and converted earths vibrational energies to microwave radiation.

The Giza Power Plant presents ample evidence that many stone artifacts found in Egypt could only have been produced using highly precise and sophisticated machine tools. The question then becomes, "what powered these machine tools and where is their power source?" To answer this question we delve into the Great Pyramid of Giza with a thorough analysis of its inner chambers, architectural and construction characteristics, anomalous substances, and unusual artifacts carelessly noted or closely scrutinized by researchers in the past. This analysis leads us to the conclusion that the Great Pyramid was actually built to serve as a machine. A machine that provided power to the civilization that built it and invested so much time and energy.

Compelling stuff.

Oh, and in case you don't have the book in your collection yet:

http://www.legendarytimesbooks.com/prod ... t=0&page=1

Your direct support is greatly appreciated!

The Giza Powerplant is a fantastic book. I just finished reading it, and it is mind-blowing (then again most good AAT based reads are!).

One of the really interesting theories brought up in the book have to do with the smaller two pyramids surrounding the great pyramid showing signs of tests and measurements. Passageways being altered and then perfected to maximize the operating potential of the structure. This hinted at the idea that they were essentially working models or prototypes that were the precursor to the perfect in every way Great Pyramid.

[timeTraveler]

Hi

There is an other pretty similar approach, but the idea is that the pyramid was a nuclear power plant.
In both cases the thing that make’s a lot of sense is the such a gigantic building has to had a lot of significant use. If we think advanced technology community, they have had a big need for energy and no easy way producing it.

The link : http://nuclearpyramid.com/great_pyramid.php

jukka t

[truthseeker]

Do you know where I can get more info regarding that? Never heard of it before...TY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-sV7I3CyQ8

that link is to a 5 part documentary on youtube, all about Nikola Tesla, a TRUE Genius and at least 100 years ahead of his time

if it's not a tomb how do you explain the sarcophagus in the kings chamber?

It is not a sarcophagus. Milos is correct.

Has anyone read Christopher Dunn's THE GIZA POWER PLANT?

Here, he describes in compelling detail that the great pyramid is a gigantic energy device. First, he demonstrates that sophisticated machining must have been used to create the chambers within the pyramid and then reveals that it was a large acoustical device. By its size and dimensions, this crystal edifice created a harmonic resonance with the earth and converted earths vibrational energies to microwave radiation.

The Giza Power Plant presents ample evidence that many stone artifacts found in Egypt could only have been produced using highly precise and sophisticated machine tools. The question then becomes, "what powered these machine tools and where is their power source?" To answer this question we delve into the Great Pyramid of Giza with a thorough analysis of its inner chambers, architectural and construction characteristics, anomalous substances, and unusual artifacts carelessly noted or closely scrutinized by researchers in the past. This analysis leads us to the conclusion that the Great Pyramid was actually built to serve as a machine. A machine that provided power to the civilization that built it and invested so much time and energy.

Compelling stuff.

Oh, and in case you don't have the book in your collection yet:

http://www.legendarytimesbooks.com/prod ... t=0&page=1

Your direct support is greatly appreciated!

expect my order in the next couple weeks

[Jeff Sheets]

That is a pretty interesting paper. Does anyone on the board know or know how to find out if any radioactivity measurements have ever been done on the Gizeh pyramid?

Even a Geiger counter brought on a tour would be enough to suggest whether this is plausible or not.

[Giorgio Tsoukalos]

Does anyone on the board know or know how to find out if any radioactivity measurements have ever been done on the Gizeh pyramid? Even a Geiger counter brought on a tour would be enough to suggest whether this is plausible or not.

Yes! I do! ...and yeah, it's plausible alright.

Funny you should mention that... because there will be 2 feature articles about this in the new issue of Legendary Times Magazine. The articles will discuss recent radioactive measurements which were taken clandestinely (!) inside the Great Pyramid and the smaller pyramids in the surrounding areas.

The articles will blow the "three-chamber theory" right out of the water, because due to other secret measurements conducted with ground-penetrating radar equipment, additional chambers inside the Great Pyramid (and the other pyramids!) have been irrefutably identified...

The results we're about to reveal in the pages of Legendary Times Magazine are quite revolutionary because we have to remember that the size of ground-penetrating radar machines has decreased dramatically only in recent years. A decade ago, ground-penetrating radar machines used to be as big as railway cars! Today, such devices fit comfortably inside an ordinary backpack. It's all very 'James Bond'!

So, there's a lil' tease for ya regarding the new issue!

Oh, how far am I along with delivering this particular issue to the printer? About 3-4 weeks, so this issue will arrive in your mailbox fairly soon! I appreciate everyone's patience and I... must... leave... Forum.... now. Avoid... further... procrastination. Cannot... toil... around... on Forum... aaaarrrghhhh

[Jeff Sheets]

Sounds like you may have detected some Kryptonite in the Kings chamber dude. Go get some air.

[timeTraveler]

... the magazine do I get this volume that you referred also?

- jukka T

[nippur10]

A lot of what I've read says that the bottom layer was laid out, then the second layer, then the third and etc. Maybe, but it seems to me that the construction of the Khufu pyramid began as a small 4-sided pyramid. Quickly, additional stones were placed around and on top of the small pyramid base. This method is very efficient. By doing it this way, the architects and builders had complete control over the size and angle of the pyramid and the builders could "tilt" or "slant" the stones ever so slightly toward a central point and maintain stability throughout construction.
Also, the angle of the assending passage and the Grand Gallery closely follows the angle of the finished pyramid (not exactly, but close enough). And following a plan to constantly "grow" the pyramid, the instrument (or whatever was in the grand gallery) could be dropped in as the pyramid expanded then covered with corbel vaulting. We know that there was something in the Grand Gallery because the post holes were there to support something.
We also know that the sides are not completely flat, but form an ever so slight "V" on all four sides. To me this affirms that the construction was done with the ideal of "slanting" at least some of the stones toward the center to provide internal support without using elaborate structural beams. This could only have been done with the method that I am proposing.
Is this method foolproof? No. Witness the Medium pyramid which collapsed around it's central core. But the Medium pyramid did not have the core construction method I've suggested.
Now if I could only figure out what exactly was in the Grand Gallery.
Your thoughts are welcome.

[Zagrefez]

So called 'sargophagus' could have been spot where were inserted example some sort of battery,generator/source of power.. It's just looks like a tomb in our eyes and coincidenly right sized. Does mayan pyramids have same too? But there is also scription/image on the sargophagus where is adviced how to use it what we don't know,shame...

[amnesiac]

yes, whatever this "tomb" is, it is not a tomb In burial places there are always other items and mummy ( if the place wasnt robbed and looted ). Plus the whole place is filled with glyphs, drawings and sometimes even writings on the walls and on the sarcophagus as well. Here in the Great pyramid? Nothing of this exist. Everywhere else does. I like the idea of power source ( battery, liquid, anything...)

[nippur10]

Doesn't look to me to be a battery operated device, nor does the idea of a nuclear power plant make sense based on design. Whatever was in the Grand Gallery is the key to the function. I would guess it was an energy storage device (plasma energy?) that was released into the King's Chamber when the pyramid was operational. What we do know is there was a lot of heat generated in the King's Chamber based on the discoloration of the granite. Further, the King's Chamber could be sealed, posssibly protecting the device in the Grand Gallery. Also, this energy is beyond our understanding, except perhaps in an experimental lab or in a large collider.

[Csabi_B]

I think the Grand Gallery was the ramp to move the granite blocks up for the construction of the King's Chamber. The Queen's Chamber also had a similar ramp.

[Zagrefez]

I was watching short document part about what would be in eleventh dimension or what there would live. In the bible, there is some parts that god came from other world.. Then I pretty soon got an idea that would pyramid or PumaPunku's 'sun gate' be the port to other dimension? What would it need from man, that it really could step to whole another world...

[Aufinder01]

Thing I always wonder about is "What is UNDER these Pyramids" What is in the basement? Did they prep the surface down to bedrock or are we all looking at the top half of a diamond shape and think that it.

How come everyone only looks at the above ground structure and nobody even takes a thought about whats under it.

If you really wanted to hide something would you build a huge monument to put it into or bury it under the monument?

We see that these people cut huge stones above ground... Mining is cutting stone below the surface. There are chambers cut into hill sides that are as deep as some mines.

But, have you ever seen a very old MINE?

Oldest mines in the US are the "Contin" turquoise mines in NM, said to have been dug around 1300ad. I think that older mines are the agate mines of Wyoming, judging by the types of arrowheads found there.
Oh yes! The Indians MINED many years before Europeans got here.

Aufinder01

[Zagrefez]

There is rumors about the underground place near the pyramid, I guess it was in bible.. And if it was Moses or who ever, he said that pyramids are magnificent, but nothing if compared to this. It was something what can't tell with words. I watched document what handled this subject and suggestions of the location of this place was about 50-60miles from pyramid. I hope they start to search this place more, like with some sort of equipments, maybe echo sounders? There could be the key and answers for the pyramids.

[Huge Ackman]

I agree that the pyramids were some sort of machine, likely multi-purpose, and the power generator theory seems pretty solid.

[Cartomancer]

I think many of the unexplained functions of the pyramids listed here are plausible and interesting. I have been studying the Great Pyramid of Giza (GPOG) and how it is a master datum for many ancient sites. Many have noted the GPOG as being located at the geographic center of the landmasses of the world. In addition I believe it served as a practical as well as cultural datum or transmitter.

Several interesting places are located in line with the cardinal directions the pryamid points to but the 45 degree angles (45.55) of the facets point to Pisa, Memphis tenn., The Grand Mosque in Mecca, The Dogon culture area in Mali, and, as stated by Sitchin, the ruins of Baalbek in Lebanon. The Labarum design at st. Peter's also functions this way and each cardinal and intermediate direction is even marked with a windrose marker. Use the obelisk at the center of St. Peter's for a datum. The Egyptians and Sumerians began this tradition and it still continues today in the modern world. People are still building structure intentioanally that align with the ancient ones.

It is almost as if the Egyptians were missionaries and a version of their religion and culture sprang up in these locations. If you in turn examine the way the hexagon at Baalbek points to places it becomes more than just chance alignments. This has been going on since the beggining. The Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem also works this way. Interesting that they all point to Mt. Ararat. The georgia guide stones also work this way.

Note that all of these assumptions are way more obvious on a globe and not on maps which have "x" amount of distortion built into them. The ancients used globes as well. Thanks for the great chatboard.

[lunarwing]

OK... nobody get their panties all up in a wad. What follows is my own personal theory about the origins of the sphinx and pyramids. Your own personal theories are still safe and sound.

Now there are several aspects for the reasons I have to think the way I do.

First is.... the mindset of the Egyptians themselves. I have dealt with people in the middle east and found their motives to be severely flawed. I trust them about as far as I can throw the sphinx.

Example... in Israel, when the Palistinians find archaeology proving Isreali claims.... they are destroyed or hidden away. This happens way too often and much history is lost. Egypt is no different... especially "his royal scientific holiness" Dr. Zahi Hawass. In the past he has been acused of hiding things that does not fit the Egyptian historical fairy tales.

I had read one account where he closed the pyramids to the public for "maintenence" on the lighting system and "cleaning" of the inner areas or something. Someone was able to get within his secured area. They said workers were removing rubble. That Hawass was trying to break through to a previously unknown area.... doing it covertly as to avoid prying eyes that might see something he cannot explain away.

It was proven that there is a hollow area within the sphinx enclosure. Hawass refuses to allow it to be investigated. Unless he can control what is found before the world can see it... he would rather that it remain undiscovered. This man is not putting history... or science... first. His false history of Egypt is what he is out to protect.

So... I do not trust the historical record coming from the Egyptians.

Second... Most of you probably already know how I feel about the main stream scientific community as a whole by now as well.

That going back to one of the best known archaeological frauds of all time.... which just so happened within a pyramid! Colonel Howard Vyse was the culprit back in 1800 something. He needed to prove his own personal theory true so he falsified a cartouche within a pyramid not known to contain any cartouches.

Ahhhh, aren't these guys wonderful? When your grant or your investors money is on the line.... the hell with the truth of the science.... just make crap up so you can get paid!
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Now I don't mind when a scientist tells you that what he is saying is an educated guess.... hell, I even respect that kind of scientist. Trouble is most of them start to believe their own theories after they repeat them umpteen times... that soon their theories magically become fact. Then you have one scientist projects his theory.... and anothers that pick up on it as a stated fact.

Now don't get me wrong... not all those that hold degrees are self promoting idiots. There are some honest scientists out there that do their best to know the difference between guesswork and truth.

One good example was a tooth found in Kansas I believe. A single tooth, mind you. The founding degreed dude claimed it was a tooth from an early man. By the time it was around a few years a gaggle of degreed dudes had "discovered" that it was thousands of years old, a male, and that they knew his age and diet. OK... that can be kinda believible. But as time went on they could tell you about his tribe and culture. That these folks lived like this and that.

Trouble was it turned out to be a goats tooth only just a few yews old!

yeah... I totally trust what the academics say....

Now that you see where I sit when it comes to the Egyptian historical record that the main stream scientific community has spoon fed us all these years.
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Ok, on to the pyramids....

One of the first things that I wondered about is the condition of the sphinx. It spent a lot of its life buried in sand up to its neck. This can be seen in the drawings of the artist that accompanied Napoleon.

I can believe that with just the head exposed... much weathering had happened to this part of the sphinx, and not the rest of the body.

If you ever have seen the body of the sphinx in a complete view, the head looks like a pimple on the body. I would sooner believe that the pharoh that takes (or is given) the credit for the sphinx... took a already massively old artifact and carved his likeness on a nub for a head due to the blasting sand that erased the original face many many years before.

I believe that within the excavated sphinx enclosure has little to no inscriptions in it. Just as the major pyramids do not as well. So it is very hard to tell who constructed them and when. Other than the temples themselves.... most of the dating is nothing but guesswork being taught as fact.

I believe it was Dr. Shocky... a geologist.... who believes he has the proof that due to the weathering within the sphinx enclosure... the sphinx is ten thousand years old.... or older.

I believe that the main pyramids and the sphinx were already ancient structures... possibly built prior to the great flood. The "current occupants" of the area moved in and took credit.

Imagine your tribe finds a group massive impressive structures that nobody lives in or around. If there is no one around that claims credit for them... you might start to claim your people made them to boost your tribes importance. This is not so far fetched... as I pointed out earlier... this mentality still abounds today.

I believe there really is no cartouches that depict the construction of these structures. That is why the modern scientists have many theories on how they were constructed. More guess work of course...

The fulcrum or lever theory where they moved the stones inches at a time is a joke. You have degreed dudes who don't make very good archaeologists trying to be not very good engineers.

I love the ramp theory... hell, these supposed ramps would have took just as long to build as the pyramids themselves... and used as much building material as well.

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I doubt if the builders built massive ramps that took the same amount of labor and materials as the pyramids themselves.... they would have been "designed into" the construction plans themselves, to be left as part of the completed pyramid structure if that were the case. By tearing the supposed ramps down... these ramps would have taken more labor to build and remove than it did to build the pyramid themselves.

I would love to challenge these theoretical scientists to a small scale pyramid build off. They can use their theory and I'd use mine. I have seen them try using their theories on shows before and it is a joke.

In my theory of their construction.... the angled sides of the pyramids are ramp enough. I do think like an engineer and the way (minus the magic, or the aliens) I would move the stones to their perpsective levels would be using a counter weight system.

At the top of the level you are bringing your stones up to... you have a counter weight "bucket" the size or larger of the stone you are moving. You fill it with enough sand to equalize the weight. The sand is much easier to move up the pyramid in smaller and managable buckets. You then allow that counter weight to go down the other side of the pyramid thus bringing your stone up with very little muscle needed.

At the lower levels and wider base.... you could many of these counter weights across the structure. As you build up... you eliminate the counter weights at the outer edges until you have just the one or two used to finish the very thin area at the top.
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Another part of the construction I get a giggle out of is the means to move these huge stones.... especially the log roller method... or even the skid method.

The scientists say the Egyptians did not have the wheel. Well that is if the "Egyptians" even built the things in the first place. But I think I do remember that they did have chariots. The chariots had wheels, didn't they?

I think even if I was an early man... I'd be smart enough to know a round stick rolls easier than a square stone. I'd make the stone round by using wood from around the area.

It is coming out more and more that the area there once had lush vegetation. Now a human is a human and human behavior does not change much. Technology changes... but base behaviors does not.

Just as we today use up our natural resources... those in the past would as well. I can imagine millions of trees were used in the construction of these megalithic structures... and it was not given a second thought that they were abusing their natural resources.... until it was too late.

There is a couple of ways to make a square stone round that comes to mind. One would be to bundle logs lengthway and build up each flat side of the stone until it was darn near a rollable object. This type of transport would also protect the stones.

The other is to set the each end of the stone inside a wheel. Hook a rope to the center of each side and pull it along. These ways it would only take a fraction of those hundreds of stone draggers you see portreyed in those silly pictures. These methods would also allow the stones to be easily to be counter weighted up the sides to each level being constructed.
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But lets get back to the origins of the pyramids.

I would bet the farm that a much earier civilization... other than the current Egyptian culture.... built the Giza plateau complex. I would also bet that the original head on the sphinx was a lions head, one whose size would match the body it was sitting on.

I would also be brave enough to say that the pyramids in the immediate areas around the Giza complex are not ones built earlier than the three main pyramids.... ones like the bent pyramid for example. Scientists believe the poorly built pyramids are older than the main three because the builders were perfecting their building techniques.... until they got it right with the main three.

To me it looks like the "new tenents" of the area were trying to copy the three main pyramids.... they had found and moved into... on the Giza complex.

I figure that if the current Egyptian culture had built the Giza pyramids.... they would be today so far advanced in their land and culture, they would make the rest of the world look primative.

No... the first Egyptians are just people that took advantage of a good thing. And having done so got a jump start over others after one of the four earthly world wide destructions like what we might face in 2012.

Who did build the Giza complex pyramids and sphinx? How were they built? How old are they really? I am sure that what we are taught is not the true story.




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truthseeker

[Ace Rimmer]

Somebody who has been studying the Spinx makes a good case for the weathering on it's sides as being from water, worn away by water. Wait, let me see if I can find something.

Scroll down about halfway to this heading. Dr. Schoch, must be the same guy.

The Age of Sphinx Controversy

http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_3.htm

And jeez yeah, I don't believe anything Dr. Zahi HawASS says about anything.
I completely agree the Sphinx was a big 'ole lion.
I also think the other, not so good pyramids came after the big ones. Guess they forgot what they were doing. Because they didn't build the other ones anyway.