How to prepare for 2012 and what aliens have to do with it?

[truthseeker]

wow, that was an excellent 1st post my friend

keep them coming and post often

[astralwalker]

wow, that was an excellent 1st post my friend

keep them coming and post often

Hi Truthseeker,

Thanks. I really appreciate.

About the posts – I will.

Kind regards

Pane

[Catalyst]

Wow, astralwalker, I found your post wildly interesting. I love it when work is actually researched by valid, scientific institutes.
I found more in depth info regarding your post at http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?o ... &Itemid=36
which also credits the Siberian department of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

Another area where science is proving otherwise "new age concepts" is in physics and the manifestation of thought into form. Bruce Lipton, PhD., has much to offer on the subject. http://www.brucelipton.com/about

Fantastic info. Thanks for the tip. ( :

[astralwalker]

You are welcome,


Please check this out also:


http://www.viewzone.com/milkyway.html

http://www.viewzone.com/endtime.html


Kind regards

Astralwalker

[truthseeker]

i've only read about a 3/rd so far and its allot of information to digest so will have to reread the parts i've read so far before moving on but i will say this astralwalker...WOW

[Catalyst]

WOW indeed. The links are INCREDIBLE. I bookmarked them for future reference and am completely inspired.

They also led to *another* link that is absolutely imperative we Americans see... Zeitgeist the movie.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ze ... gle+Search

They've claimed it's been debunked but the facts presented are exactly that - facts. All researchable and presented by credible sources. These "debunkers" lump everything into "conspiracy theory" even if the facts are present. Who needs facts these days?! Certainly not our government.

[truthseeker]

They also led to *another* link that is absolutely imperative we Americans see... Zeitgeist the movie.

i have also seen this documentary and i'm busy spreading the word as far and as wide as i can...have you also seen "the corporation"?

this is what i would describe as nothing short of a world wide pandemic.

its not just the Americans that are affected but us brits and indeed the world as a whole. the problem lies in the fact each nation sees its self as individual and we have cut ourselfs off from the pain and suffering and feelings of others.
we need to start seeing ourselfs as citizens of the world, not just an "American" "Brit" "Christian" "Muslim" "Chinese" or whatever else.

we also need to take back our governments, this is self evident and we don't need a documentary to tell us this, informative as they are we can see and hear the results on any TV or radio channel.
we have put complete faith in our governments and trust them to do the right thing...this should never have been allowed to happen and now we (we as in everyone all over the world) are paying a very heavy price and this trust that we have placed in our respective governments has most definitely not been earned or repaid!

what we need is a world wide revolution and to stand up and say NO MORE! and make our politicians more accountable for their actions and lack there off.

if such a thing were to happen i would be in the front lines and ready with rope in hand to hang our leaders, such is the extent of their failure and greed.

[ASTRA1]

Hi Astralwalker,
I really enjoyed your articles here. Great research!
I think nature/universe has its way of getting things back to normal,the way it's meant to be in the first place.
I also think that immoral ones, that you mentioned, can't protect themselves.I don't know,maybe I'm wrong,but I think when something big like that happens,it's impossible for any human (who wasn't meant to survive) to hide.I just don't think that anyone can "cheat" on nature/universe/God.
On December 21,2012. I believe that the world as we know it will end and those people who survive will be spiritually and otherwise mature,they will develop their consciousness to the level that we probably can't even imagine right now,but I think it began to happen some time ago to some individuals and the number of those individuals is rising.
Anyway,that's just my opinion.

What do you think about the Planet x (which I believe to be the Nibiru,like Zecharia Sitchin says)?

[truthseeker]

hi Astra1 and welcome to the forum...

following on from yours and astralwalkers posts, it's beginning to look to me that the people at the top dont want the least bit of change to the status quo.
when i start to look at how society (which now is more feudal) has changed and also taking into consideration the genetic manipulations of crops and seeds, pitting man against his brother and using religion and difference as an excuse to accomplish this, it becomes crystal clear that those at the top are trying their damnedest to halt any and all evolution of the physical as well as the spiritual.

the problem here is that the average person (average as in none political or power hungry) has had the wool pulled over his eyes and has been tricked into believing that their is nothing anyone can do about this, that is not correct, we can do something about this because we the common person out number those at the top, its simple maths!

[ASTRA1]

Hi Truthseeker,
people at the top don't want any change,because this kind of "situation" in the world really suits them.It just reminded me of the Middle Ages when people are kept in the dark when it comes to knowledge,which of course was good for the Church and the rulers.
They are trying to stop the world from the change which,fortunatelly for us,is impossible to do.The world and we (the humans) are going to change whether they like it or not.The old world will have to "die" and make way for the new one.
And just like the Astralwalker says that in Macedonia there are 99% of people unaware of what's going on,the same situation is here in Croatia.
I know many people who simply don't want to think about these things,they convinced themselves that the world we live in right now will last forever and enyone who maintain different is wrong or even weird.

[truthseeker]

i agree with you 100%

i've made a post here: http://www.legendarytimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=221

what are your thoughts on this matter?

please post your thoughts in that thread and not this one, thanks

[Giorgio Tsoukalos]

Dear Astralwalker, in reference to everything you've written YOURSELF on here - how come you haven't published a book yet? I'm serious.

Get your fanny in gear and do it!

[truthseeker]

listen to the man, he knows what he's talking about

[truthseeker]

i'm getting the feeling that we haven't even scratched the surface when it comes to the mysteries of our past and the unfolding of our history, including climate change as well as whats going on in the solar system

[Giorgio Tsoukalos]

everything is all set now, this entire thread (which is about 2012) is now in the new 2012 section, so all is good in the neighborhood!

[DR/Sensei TKT]

In my research and readings, I found that there are 3 different opinions on what will happen on December 21, 2012.

(1.)There are groups of folks that believe that nothing special will happen on December 21,2012. They say that the Mayan calendar stops at December 21,2012 because the Mayans stop calculating their calendar at that point in time and they have done extensive research to prove their theory.

(2.)Others say that there will be a drastic change in the cosmos especially in our solar system and they have done extensive research to prove their theory.

(3.)There is another group of researchers who believe the ancient astronauts from the past will return on that date and they have done extensive research to prove their theory.

I find that all the articles and opinions to be very interesting and educational.

Does anyone know of other cultures other that the Mayan's that predict something special happening on December 21, 2012?

[truthseeker]

i heard something recently about the Tibetan calender being almost identical to the Mayan.

[MANKIEWICZ]

Reply to astralwalker. Thanks for this interesting article.

I first heard of the 2012 date in a docu-movie called" The outer Space
Connection" narrated by Rod Serling in 1974. The film covered a lot of ground but did not seem to have a hint at what you have just uncovered here. BUT the film stated December 24th, 2011. NOT 2012.
Anybody know what happened??

Also in the film above, a University displayed Kirilian Photography for the first time. This is where one may observe a living being's so called 'aura" or energy field.

A couple romantically involved while filming their Kirilian field
around their close but not touching finger tips treated observers to an
arcing condition in the space between their fingers. A great demonstration.
What does it mean?

In closing, as we approach this date, hopefully it won't be as severe
as you mentioned.

Thank you

[truthseeker]

Also in the film above, a University displayed Kirilian Photography for the first time. This is where one may observe a living being's so called 'aura" or energy field.

A couple romantically involved while filming their Kirilian field
around their close but not touching finger tips treated observers to an
arcing condition in the space between their fingers. A great demonstration.
What does it mean?

in chinese and martial arts circles its known as your "Chi" or as some might call it, your life force or spiritual energy, see link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi

this can be easily demonstrated by practicing qigong (pronounced Chi Gong)

try spreading your legs about shoulder length apart then bending your knees slightly then hold your hands in front of you like you are holding a big jar in your arms with the tips of your fingers about 8 to 10 inches apart, no more than that. your hands should be facing each other with thumbs pointing up, your arms and elbows should be at least 6 to 7 inches away from the body your back needs to be straight, eyes closed and head held level.
you should be totally relaxed when doing this and hold it for at least a minute, if done correctly you will start to feel a tingling sensation in the tips of your fingers, this is your "Chi" circulating and recharging so to speak.

chi is extremely powerful and is very good for healing yourself and for general wellbeing.

hope thats made things more clear?

[Agency]

An excellent topic you have posted here! Extremely informative!

[urogard]

Personally for me the saddest part of this is that those who do not believe in this (I am partially sceptical to this, but more for the reason that if this is to happen so many people would vanish, and if I understand correctly, many of those will vanish from existence completely) and once the day comes they will see they were wrong but it's too late to change anything on their fate. (for some it won't be too late but I fear that for many it will be)

I would rather wish to have an eternity to persuade people one by one to changing the world truly to a better place than with an instantaneous change that will have such a deep impact on all of us, and having the chance of saving even those that currently do their best to make our lives as miserable as possible.

No matter who you think of, they still deserve to live:
One example would be George Bush, yes certainly he did mess up a lot of things and things will happen because of this pawns actions in the near future, I do hate him just like many others. But imagine someone would kill him, what about his wife and his daughters, wouldn't they be full of sorrow? (this isn't about excusing what he did, i'm just saying that everyone has a good side, it's only about to make it appear)

[truthseeker]

when changes in nature have occurred they have always been sudden and in most cases extremely violent...the dinosaurs would be a case in point.

at best this planet can sustain no more than 500 million to a maximum of 1 billion people. this is mainly because of the amount of sunlight that falls on any 1 part of the planet in any 24 hour cycle. it is only because of the extra energy we have gained threw fossil fuels have we been able to generate enough energy to grow enough food to feed an ever expanding populace.

what most people fail to realize is that fossil fuels is a 1 time gift from nature and when fossil fuels run out we will be facing a new dark age because we have failed to harness renewable power sources such as diesel oil from plants, electricity from water and wind turbines and so on.

those that are not screaming out for change now will be screaming for help when its to late.

[urogard]

I disagree, current production allows us to feed those over 6 billion people on the world with little effort (sadly however no one does want to do this little effort), and could feed even more.

and the energy that is available to us in form of wind, light, water and heat (geothermal energy sources) is more than enough to sustain billions of people

[truthseeker]

if the world's economy was agrarian based i would agree with you but its not agrarian based it is industrial based and has been for the past 200 years.

in the current world economy we cannot sustain this current population expansion, even with the capacity to feed nearly 13 billion people (which we do have and for the love of god i cannot work out why people are still dieing of starvation) for the simple reason that fossil fuels will not last forever...

why do you think America is imposing its imperialism all over the globe, it sure isn't because of a man wearing a blue turban and hiding in some cave

[MANKIEWICZ]

Hello to Astralwalker!

Astralwalker, I lived through the 50'S and was a space geek then.

Please correct your date in your post about "In 1953 satelites and radars
picked up...."

Nobody had a satelite in space until the Russians launched "Sputnick"
in 1957. The U.S. was surprized and embarrased. The U.S.
launched the Vanguard in 1958 a year later.

Both these satelites were "bouncers" meaning all they did was bounce our radio waves off of them. They had no advanced technology aboad to pick up anything from space.

We are both in the AASRA for the same reason.

Kind regards,

[suparna]

One of the most impressive text i read ever.I'm just asking myself did i something miss,since you come from Skopje-Macedonia which is in my neighborhood!It will take some time i read everything written here.I didn't catch up what is your *vision*-thinking-whatever you called it and what you took over of other's knowledge-facts.

If there is Imagination of yours it is amazing.Although,i am not familiar with this theme in scientific sense,i can realize possible authenticity of all events in the remote past and in the future.I assume there are truths hidden from us,and if i can say ,personally the closest descriptions in my reach of understanding regard to mother of the Nature,our Consciousness ,a need to live in harmony as inside of our -self as well as with others.

Have been practicing meditation,some shape of self improvement,with presence of negative -dark energy,i am able to be a witness of veracity of importance every man practice it on oneself.

Here may come up a question relates to difference between people-there are individuals with strong psychic and Mental abilities,but the whole Cosmos own its regulations in physical and mathematic regards ,which lead us to the question:What is stronger:Body or Spirit?

According to your saying,extraterrestrials belong our world ,with a physical and spirit advantage,but they are not able to resolve situation without us?
Do they really take care of us?
Are we of some importance for them?

[amnesiac]

I was about to ask question about how there could be something on a North pole when expeditions went there and took pictures. But your map answered all. It seems if there is opening of any size, it is not exactly on a North Pole but probably a little bit "of the beaten path" . I`m very open minded but theory of Hollow Earth seems to me too crazy to be truth. I know they airbrush a lot of stuff from Moon and other places because its easy and still not many people have access to the data, but here on Earth?? Hundreds of satellites flying around every day so do you really believe that there is no good picture of these "unexplored areas" . How about some expeditions? Does anybody made a trip to those places? It shouldnt be a problem in our century to go and see what is really there, and you dont have to be a scientist. A lot of people have big money and power to do that. It just seems to me too strange to say "we dont know what is there, around a North Pole". Well if there actualy is a cover up here and they dont make public any authentic pictures, then it just make my conspiracy opinions even stronger

Man, your stuff here is just so crazy and scientists must hate you so much. And if its truth I would give you a Nobel price for a next year

[QuetzalcoatlVT]

The information presented and linked from here have no surprise to them. I've been an introverted researcher, avid and lazy at times, for years. I like how concise and collected it all is. Good job, man. I want to know if you, or anyone else reading this have any connections to local media. I'm a member of a local T.V. access station and have a friend who work there. I was wondering if anyone would be interested in collecting all of our pertinent and impending knowledge for the shakedown coming in the future. What I'm getting at is not only airing a show, but making a non-profit movie to help wake even a sliver of the masses. Anyways, I won't get to technical or go into too much at all until we can get some dialogue bouncin'. Peace be on you.

[MANKIEWICZ]

Dear astralwalker,

Yes, very thorough post!! There is something to add that validates
some of the scenarios you are depicting. I just recently
viewed a youtube presentation by Lloyd Pye that you must see.

He explains in genetic terms why we humans "suddenly" appeared
the way we are. We are millions of evolutionary years away from
our homo erectus state but somehow genetically appeared
250,000 years ago -or "overnight."

The title of his presentation is "Everything you know is wrong."
The item that stands out is that our huge brain is genetically "blocked"
so that we are only capable of using 12% of it.

The Annunuki (Through clay tablets found) genetically arranged us
to be "in their image" but to be slaves and a little less intelligent
than they are.

He is finally confronting science in their own terms to stop
ignoring glaring evidence that we were "created"
extraterrestially.

You want your servants to be substandard to you otherwise
they won't be subserviant-right?

This also explains why "god" made us a "little lower" than
the "angels" but in his image-- if one wants to use biblical terms.

coincidence?--No.

Very Respectfully yours,

[urogard]

The item that stands out is that our huge brain is genetically "blocked"
so that we are only capable of using 12% of it.

I am not quite certain that is correct

and i'm talking about the 12% part, not the blocking

[MANKIEWICZ]

astralwalker,

You haven't heard that all humans only use 10-12% of their brain?

[Csabi_B]

I am not adept in physics, astronomy, and history as I am just a philosopher, but I am well versed in communication as I practise communication every day, so I can apply the principles of philosophy on communication in first hand.

I collect some expressions Astralwalker used in his posts and demonstrate the ways how they are supposed to be applied to direct the reader's thinking and how they can be applied to suggest accomplished thoughts.

There is solid evidence that somebody under the username 'astralwalker' posted texts and pictures in this topic of 2012. The interpretation of these certain posts clearly indicates that the poster is/was a devoted 2012-monger or wanted to seem one. From the evidence we gathered we can firmly allege that Astralwalker alleged a lot of uncommon things in these posts. By now, it is obvious that our common knowledge has been very moderate or Astralwalker's common knowledge surpasses ours very much. There is strong evidence that people can share and revoke various kinds of knowledge on Internet forums. The governments are aware of these fa[c]ts because it was they who developed Internet and legitimated the freedom of speech in order people can do that.

If you compare Astralwalker's statements containing these certain expressions in italic (see his first post) to mine, you may get what I mean about the two ways of usage. The difference is obvious, I hope. If not, let me go on then.

The truth is this: I allege that lots of things Astralwalker alleged are impossible, unlikely, or meaningless, but I have no evidence at all. Still I am firm about my points. As all the allegations of Astralwalker and Dan Eden are based on unbreakable evidences, 100% reliable testimonies, and facts, including the ones I refuse to accept, I cannot be but crazy consequently. No matter how crazy that sounds it is the truth.

By the way, I made an attempt to accept what Astralwalker alleged. I applied the askew interpretation of this advice of Astralwalker: "Block the thinking process completely and see how the message sounds inside your consciousness." As a result, Astralwalker's allegations sounded acceptable! However, as soon as my thinking process strarted again, I lost that sound.

Now let me state one of the things that I am COMPLETELY in agreement with Astralwalker. He alleged: "The power of belief systems can be used as fuel for the game of seducing people into believing that certain things are true. Lies are mingled with just enough truth to be confusing." Can this allegation be applied on Astralwalker's posts?

[I_SMOKE_WEED]

yea,nice post man but can you make a movie instead cuz i hate reading

[Wowweebaby]

A ray of light will come from the center of the universe And destroy are planet as we know it..

This is because the Sun and the earth lined up?
So is that what happened to Mars…. It Lined up with the sun and bang..
Since Mercury moves faster around the sun it must of Lined up with this many times..
No one seemed to Notice this Ray of light in the sky before?
From the Middle of are universe would be how many light years away .
So wouldn’t it just miss the planet and hit the Sun? Since we are a couple hundred light years away from the middle..

Sounds like the person put a lot of thought into the idea..
Forgot to explain how this Ray or Light or Beam of Light could move Faster then the speed of light.
How about we try to keep the ideas based in reality and work with the physics we know about.
Even if this ray could move that quickly who is to say the Moon wouldn’t be in the way of its beam?

[urogard]

astralwalker,

You haven't heard that all humans only use 10-12% of their brain?

which is completely wrong.