The Money Pit

[Ace Rimmer]

Absolutely!
You know just going by the fact that no government is interested in The Oak Island "Treasure", especially us, makes me believe there is nothing there.

well, I think there might be something down there but considering how long it takes government officials to even return an email, seems the tax payer could be strapped for this project indefinitely -

I do think there is something there, something to it. I sure can't imagine whoever built it would do it for an elaborate pratical joke.

[angeloneastralseed]

Is someone working on it now? Perhaps the object (if there was one) was already recovered, and now it's useless.

[lunarwing]

I still think that it is not the Ark of the Covenent.... but whatever is down there is not meant to be recovered.... and the Ark does play a role in the end days once the Hebrew temple is rebuilt.

[Marshall Ackerman]

Why do we just stick a 10lb camera on a rope and drop it to the bottom? See whats down there?

[upperworld]

Why do we just stick a 10lb camera on a rope and drop it to the bottom? See whats down there?

There are still solid layers to be drilled through before we get to the bottom. As we drill through they backfill with water. It is unlikely that they will just drill a hole big enough to drop a camera in until they can stop the water from filling it up so they can see what they are drilling through. If they hit a solid layer and drill through it without inspecting it first they could be drilling through an artifact of some sort. I don't think any work will be done to get to the bottom of the pit until they find a way to divert the water.

[Porter]

i am totally thinking a prison.
An under ground prison.
to keep something in, and to be kept from being found!

great stuff!

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/mysterio ... ak-island/

[Ace Rimmer]

Hi, we have 3 threads going already about Oak Island. So I really don't know which one to direct everybody to. We are getting a forum upgrade in the near future, and then we will be able to combine duplicate threads, so for the time being just bear with us.

I've wondered that before too, maybe there is something down there we don't want to find!

http://www.legendarytimes.com/forum/vie ... =money+pit

http://www.legendarytimes.com/forum/vie ... php?t=1573

http://www.legendarytimes.com/forum/vie ... oak+island

[Porter]

Darn it Metaluna! you are right again!! i must learn to search first!!!
Again i graciously submit to your subtle reminder!

please, put it down to a very good bottle of Cab Sav and a bucket load of OVER enthusiasim!!

Porter!

[Ace Rimmer]

Darn it Metaluna! you are right again!! i must learn to search first!!!
Again i graciously submit to your subtle reminder!

please, put it down to a very good bottle of Cab Sav and a bucket load of OVER enthusiasim!!

Porter!

Oh it's ok, I'd suggest one of the other threads, but I can't figure out which one to use!
Why don't you add your post to one of the above threads and I'll rid of this one later.

how about using this thread...

What 's going with the Money Pit/oak island

[Moon]

There already is an ongoing topic for Oak Island (The Money Pit):

http://www.legendarytimes.com/forum/vie ... php?t=1960

Please continue discussions there. Thank you.

[Bob137]

I believe the only way to get to the bottom of it, is the same way they utilize breakways to build oil platforms, and breakways to build bridges! First you build a breakway, all around the island, then pump the water out, then dismantle the shaft's stoppages,. drill, etc.., then get to the bottom, and see what you can find!

[Moon]

Sounds like a good idea, the problem is how deep does the pit actually go? The break aways can be a very expensive project to undertake.

I also think they should dig a hole near the pit and go very, very deep. They could use sonar and radar equipment to find out if the money pit has an object or hidden room, then they could go sideways and try to access what is in there that way.

Of course, that is also an expensive idea.

[Bob137]

I believe since it was constructed so wisely, that whatever way is done to get to the bottom, is going to cost a lot of money! Probably millions!

[upperworld]

I believe since it was constructed so wisely, that whatever way is done to get to the bottom, is going to cost a lot of money! Probably millions!

Of course millions may be a drop in the proverbial bucket in comparison to what the value of the pit's treasure may be. There are enough people that feel that way that would likely spend the money. If i had it...i would.

[Ace Rimmer]

Hey I was able to merge the Oak Island threads....Woohoo! there are a couple others I'll have to find too.
It's a brave new world! and we all have a ton of color choices for fonts now two.

[upperworld]

Hey I was able to merge the Oak Island threads....Woohoo! there are a couple others I'll have to find too.
It's a brave new world! and we all have a ton of color choices for fonts now two.

Found and merged more. Amazing new tools!

[5kids4us]

I haven't read through all the posts. My question is if we can build retaining walls around piers and lakefronts etc; what is stopping us from building a retaining wall within the money pit? It appears to be a real job, but it shouldn't be unattainable.

[Bob137]

that is what I was talking about!

[5kids4us]

I don't think that the AOC is at the bottom. The conditions simply don't meet the primary criteria for holding the Ark. I think that Graham Hancock proved beyond a shadow of a doubt(to me) that the Ark resides in Ethiopia. I went to college with a wonderful individual, named Soloman. Soloman is native to Ethiopia; when I asked him about the issue of it residing there. Soloman's only responce was "Without question!" He had participated in Timcat on several occasions. I asked him if he or anyone he knew had ever seen the real Item as it has been used in the Timcat, he indicated that he had on two ocassions during religeous ceremonies including Timcat. I do not recall the other ceremony or its origins. I had known Soloman for around ten years at that point and had found him to be unimpeachable.

[Moon]

I haven't read through all the posts. My question is if we can build retaining walls around piers and lakefronts etc; what is stopping us from building a retaining wall within the money pit? It appears to be a real job, but it shouldn't be unattainable.

That has been discussed and it would be very expensive as it is not known how deep the pit goes. Also, the owner of the island may not like a wall built around the area as it might destroy the natural beauty of the island itself. I would guess they might try to do a small one around the pit in the future, but cost would be the major factor here.

I don't think that the AOC is at the bottom. The conditions simply don't meet the primary criteria for holding the Ark. I think that Graham Hancock proved beyond a shadow of a doubt(to me) that the Ark resides in Ethiopia. I went to college with a wonderful individual, named Soloman. Soloman is native to Ethiopia; when I asked him about the issue of it residing there. Soloman's only responce was "Without question!" He had participated in Timcat on several occasions. I asked him if he or anyone he knew had ever seen the real Item as it has been used in the Timcat, he indicated that he had on two ocassions during religeous ceremonies including Timcat. I do not recall the other ceremony or its origins. I had known Soloman for around ten years at that point and had found him to be unimpeachable.

I have read many ideas on where the Ark is including Graham, Gardner and others. I am one to think the Knights Templar found it along with some treasure and much knowledge in scrolls. I would guess the Ark is either in Scotland or the Americas myself. (Gardner claims it is in France and makes a case for it.)

[5kids4us]

Max, I think that if the Templars had found the AOC, it would have been at the volition of the AOC as it appears to have a will of it's own and determines it's own destiny. Assuming the Templars were in possesion of the relic, I do not think they would have had the issues of being rounded up and slaughtered for the most part as the device appears to be a benefactor for those in "possesion" of it. Case in point, the Church of St. Mary of Zion has gone relatively unscathed while being in a country in constant turmoil. Just my thoughts.

[Moon]

Max, I think that if the Templars had found the AOC, it would have been at the volition of the AOC as it appears to have a will of it's own and determines it's own destiny. Assuming the Templars were in possesion of the relic, I do not think they would have had the issues of being rounded up and slaughtered for the most part as the device appears to be a benefactor for those in "possesion" of it. Case in point, the Church of St. Mary of Zion has gone relatively unscathed while being in a country in constant turmoil. Just my thoughts.

There is a lot of debate as to what the Ark is and what its abilities were. I do know it is a fact the Knights Templar did dig around in Jerusalem while they were staying there to protect the city. Why they didn't use the powers is anyone's guess, but I would be willing to guess they knew what was going to happen and had some of their senior members move it. Most believe quite a few Knights fled and stayed into hiding when the King of France went after him. Others martyred themselves and claimed to be the last so the others could continue the traditions of gaining knowledge.

These are all speculations as no one knows where the Ark of the Covenant is or if it even existed.

[5kids4us]

Agreed.

[Moon]

Agreed.

But I am dying to find out what is in that pit!

[5kids4us]

Agreed.

But I am dying to find out what is in that pit!

Also agreed!

[Zorkham]

I'm not gonna go deep into this story but there's a norwegian documentary about Oak Island. Petter Amundsen claims to know where the entrance to "the temple" is. His research is very convincing and, as far as I know, people trying to prove him wrong have only used the coincident theory. I know they're working on an english version, but this is som info I found (in english):
http://www.travelexplorations.com/sweet-swan-of-avon-the-shakespeare-treasure-documentary-on-tv-nrk-8-december-2009.4663189-17545.html

[Moon]

I don't think anyone knows what is in the Money Pit (if there is anything at all). People who claim to know are either trying to sell a book or video.

They have to wait just like we do to really find out what is down there.

[ilacewords]

I don't think that the AOC is at the bottom. The conditions simply don't meet the primary criteria for holding the Ark. I think that Graham Hancock proved beyond a shadow of a doubt(to me) that the Ark resides in Ethiopia. I went to college with a wonderful individual, named Soloman. Soloman is native to Ethiopia; when I asked him about the issue of it residing there. Soloman's only responce was "Without question!" He had participated in Timcat on several occasions. I asked him if he or anyone he knew had ever seen the real Item as it has been used in the Timcat, he indicated that he had on two ocassions during religeous ceremonies including Timcat. I do not recall the other ceremony or its origins. I had known Soloman for around ten years at that point and had found him to be unimpeachable.

I have heard this theory as well that it resides in Ethiopia and I do think it's compelling, but I was under the impression that it resides there under the watch of only one person. Meaning that there was some sort of guardian that is the only one holy enough to view it without being struck dead or something.
Actually before submitting this entry, googling around I located this article on it:
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/people-places/ark-covenant-200712.html
pretty interesting theory but there are others just as interesting as well such as the Americas...

While I don't think the Money Pit to be home to the Ark, I do believe that it must contain something of value or great importance and it's got to be bigger than a filtration device.

[Bob137]

Maybe it's that space ship I have been looking for!

[Moon]

We all want it to be something really big as this is an old mystery. But the reality is it just might only be a filtration device. That is the problem with some mysteries such as Oak Island: The answers to them are sometimes disappointing.

It is fun to speculate what is in there until they do find out.

[Bob137]

Money, money, money,...money! I hope it is quatrillions of Gold, and that would be enough to give every human on the earth a million dollars in gold, and we could all live as equals! Yeah right! If someone did find that much gold, they would probably be just as greedy as all the rest of the millionaires, and billionaires, and keep it for themselves, or blow it like a lot of lottery winners do! If it was a lot of gold I would share it, since I was taught since I was young to share. I really think that most of these people on this earth that have all the money, weren't taught to share when they were young!

[Moon]

Money, money, money,...money! I hope it is quatrillions of Gold, and that would be enough to give every human on the earth a million dollars in gold, and we could all live as equals! Yeah right! If someone did find that much gold, they would probably be just as greedy as all the rest of the millionaires, and billionaires, and keep it for themselves, or blow it like a lot of lottery winners do! If it was a lot of gold I would share it, since I was taught since I was young to share. I really think that most of these people on this earth that have all the money, weren't taught to share when they were young!

The one good thing about gold is it does not tarnish and would still be very shiny if there was any down there. With all the millions already spent, they would need a lot of gold and jewels to be found to break even.

[BrendonScott]

I created this forum topic in hopes that there are members on this site that would like to discuss just what the heck is going on on Oak Island?? All websites seem to be very juvenile in content. Yes, we all know about the oak log platforms 10ft. apart and the mysterious stone tablet with the strange markings. But what about any carbon dating done? What about the theory that there may be a small nuclear reactor hidden there? Any and all theories are welcome. As well as any findings as of late. There seems to be very little information about the pit since the 1990's. C'mon folks, this one has got it all as far as Forbidden Archaeology is concerned! Looking forward to some great replies/posts..

[celticqueen]

I have been interested in the Money Pit as well. I have recently read a book how one of the St Clairs from Rosslyn Chapel sailed to Greenland and beyond. The St Clairs have been keepers of the Grail (whatever that is) and keepers of the Holy Rood (a piece of the true cross) since Queen Margaret who later became Saint Margaret entrusted the St Clairs with it. The St Clairs as one would think since they built Rosslyn have been associated with the Templars (long time) who am sure you know went to the Holy Land and are believed to have dug in royal palace on the Temple Mount, which lies on KIng Soloman's Temple, so maybe they found the Ark Of The Covenant which seemed to act like some sort of Nuclear type thingy.
To me with the head of the St Clair family allegedly going to North America with the Zeno brothers and the St Clairs being the keepers of all things sacred it makes sense to me that something which they had in their keeping in the Money Pit, whether the AotC or the Holy Grail but Ethiopia does seem a likely place for the Ark aswell, so i am not sure it is the AotC but i do believe it has something to do with the St Clairs (Sinclairs). Just a theory though.

[Moon]

Brendon, I merged this post with the ongoing one on the Money Pit-MM.

There has been carbon dating of some of the wood planks found and it dates around the 15th Century. That does not mean the pit was dug then, but it does mean some type of maintenance was performed on it during that time period.

The owners of the island are the ones who have final say along with some government red tape in Canada which has also been creating some problems before any digging can be commenced again.

I have several theories as to what is down there:

1. There is nothing in the pit as pirates dug it to make people think something was buried there. The reason is pirates would want to spend their loot they risked their lives for, and the Money Pit makes it difficult or impossible to do.

2. Ark of the Covenant is buried under there.

3. A large portion of the Knights Templar treasure is buried there.

4. The Knights Templar buried some of their secrets they found there.

5. The pit was used as some type of pump or machine not known to us yet.