Strange Structure on Mars Moon Phobos

[mapmaker]

...hello, wanted to share with you for your thoughts the latest from richard hoagland's enterprisemission.com site. he posted two items regarding the european space agency's recent scans of the interior of phobos which revealed the small moon to be hollow.
seems the ESA is already discussing these findings in scientific circles as settled fact.
hoagland related this item with the president's new emphasis on skipping the moon and focusing on reaching mars.
any thoughts?

[cesarnc]

1st reply, 3 months later LOL...

This is facinating stuff. Hoagland gave 50/50 chance that ESA will announce Phobos as an artificial artifact still in 2010 (I don't know where he took that from).

Anyway, not only Phobos would be hollow as it seems to have chambers in its interior. With walls in 90º angles.

A natural moon would never be hollow, let go form chambers like those naturally.

His theory is that Phobos is a spacecraft, it looks more like a space station to me.

Phobos' orbit is also something interesting, it's almost circular and perfectly equatorial.

I thing it was Buzz Aldrin (correct me if I'm wrong) who would have said: "Forget Mars, Phobos is the place to go" - why would a guy like him focus on a - apparently - dead, small, sad moon like that instead of exploring an entire planet!?!?!

Oh boy, what are we going to find inside? Gees, I hope to live enough to see this (37y.o now and the sand is falling down ROFL).

[mapmaker]

yes, cesarnc it's very interesting and the note about buzz aldrin is correct, i heard that comment also.

i should mention there are web links showing what is described as a monument or obelisk on the surface of phobos. google monument on phobos for information on this little mystery.

i must admit i saw a website that breathlessly described how there are two little monuments photographed on the surface of phobos 'and the two form a straight line...' which just goes to show how some can get a little too excited. or something.

that aside, the phobos situation is truly interesting. another point brings in the work being done to understand interplanetary plasma forces. in an essay in douglas kenyon's 'forbidden history' describing interplanetary plasma forces, he describes the kind of scarring that might take place on moon or planetary surfaces due to plasma forces. phobos has a great deal of that kind of scarring. perhaps its mysterious history is involved with a better understanding of plasma in the solar system.

[cesarnc]

Thanks, map... I never heard of this "monument" there. Very impressive...

Interesting how evidences of intelligent ET life is mounting. Be it the AAT, the Cydonia features, phobos, domes on the moon...

Interesting still that all that's needed is one single confirmation to get the avalanche started... An "antificial artifact" orbiting Mars would be perfect to make everything else undeniable...

Oh, we need one tiny thing. One tiny thing...

[chimayheaven]

What the hell is this strange object on Mars Moon Phobos. It is very different from the surrounding terrain and it is definitely there b/c it is casting a large shadow.

http://scienceray.com/astronomy/strange ... oon-phobos

[Ace Rimmer]

That's pretty cool. I hope they can determine what the heck it is.

[angeloneastralseed]

Wow, cool. It almost has a soft edged triangle look to it.

[Moon]

Even Buzz Aldrin made mention of it during an interview and almost stated it was artificial in construction. He later toned down his words, but basically stated it needed to be studied up close.

This is the real deal here, no photoshopping of that picture.

[David]

Its a Subway deli, those things are popping up all over the place. Thats why aliens are always so slim.

[Talen143]

I don't know what it is, but I cannot wait until there is more research done on phobos.. I so want to know if Phobos is a man (alien) made structure, or a real moon... How cool would that be if it's found to be a space ship?

[PegasusAngel]

How cool would that be if it's found to be a space ship?

Not sure we'd get told if it was

[Talen143]

yes very good point.. I posted something along those lines about it in another thread.. I'm so sick of all these "cover ups" etc. I just want to know! That's what's so frustrating.. they probably won't tell us anything, as usual! It makes me so mad!

[David]

How cool would that be if it's found to be a space ship?

If Aliens are good and benevolant, yes, if not, think Death Star.

[Randyrrr]

A camera malfunction I bet

It will be gone on the next set just like the face.

[ilacewords]

Very cool structure. I reject one of the ideas put forth in the article, this one: "
"Most scientists have concluded that the monolith is nothing but a large rock that was ejected from a collision with another asteroid sometime in the past. "

Mainly because to me it looks like a high res photo and as Max stated and I concur, doesn't appear to have any photoshopping done to it. Therefore, if we were to believe the hypothesis above, wouldn't there be evidence of an impact crater?

Here's the photo in question:

[Moon]

This is an enhanced image of the newer Face of Mars photographs:



This does look quite amazing for the claim it is natural in origin.

[Randyrrr]

This is an enhanced image of the newer Face of Mars photographs:



This does look quite amazing for the claim it is natural in origin.

I think they changed it.

There excuse was that it was a trick of light.

How come it has not been seen since?

I believe there is a pyramid also to the south west as Richard Hoagland describes.
Although he thinks it is a 5 sided structure, it looks to me to be a pyramid with sand blown up against it on the North and East sides.
I don't know if anyone has figured a size for it, but it must be a mile or so on each side at the base.

He has brought up other anomalies on Mars and the moon.
His videos are a good watch for anyone that is interested.

[Moon]

The structure is too well aligned to look natural to me. I do think this photo is the correct one, but you can still see why many think it is an artificial structure. It definitely needs to be explored up close in the future.

[armedequation]

so what are the thoughts on phobos here?

when buzz tells me to forget mars and focus on phobos, i cant help but say "yes, sir"

even still if it is a spaceship/station, there has to be a connection to mars somehow. Given the "discovery" of water around the poles and that the evidence indicates that mars was inhabitable at some point in the past, only make this subject more interesting if possible....

[Moon]

Here is the clip of Buzz Aldrin in question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDIXvpjnRws

This is a rather mysterious thing he says and was not followed up on.

[Bob137]

I just checked that out, read posts, then went to the ESA's site, and read their blogs. They did not actually state that Phobos is an artificial moon, or a space craft, but form the information provided, it does seem to be one, or at least a hollowed out asteroid, but the ESA stated that it could not be an asteroid, so if not what then? They only speculated themselves, and according to numerous other sites, it seems that some at the ESA themselves believe it to be an artificial satellite or space ship! So it seems we have a real Star Trek episode on our hands, and that is why Bush decided to go to Mars, instead of back to the moon, in other words to check out Phobos, not Mars! Maybe to make First Contact! Except as far as we know, know one went, as of yet that is? I leave that as a question, since I know how our Governments work, very tight lipped, and secretive, and are good at disinformation.

[Moon]

I just checked that out, read posts, then went to the ESA's site, and read their blogs. They did not actually state that Phobos is an artificial moon, or a space craft, but form the information provided, it does seem to be one, or at least a hollowed out asteroid, but the ESA stated that it could not be an asteroid, so if not what then? They only speculated themselves, and according to numerous other sites, it seems that some at the ESA themselves believe it to be an artificial satellite or space ship! So it seems we have a real Star Trek episode on our hands, and that is why Bush decided to go to Mars, instead of back to the moon, in other words to check out Phobos, not Mars! Maybe to make First Contact! Except as far as we know, know one went, as of yet that is? I leave that as a question, since I know how our Governments work, very tight lipped, and secretive, and are good at disinformation.

For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky

That was a great episode. The thing that surprises me is no reporter asked Mr Aldrin what he meant about the monolith being possibly artificial in nature. No follow-up questions to this rather profound statement of an unknown monolith on Phobos.

[Bob137]

I know, that is strange about the monolith statement. I wonder if that is part of the coverup, or his debriefing, to clam up.

You bet your sweet Bippy! From the show Laugh In

[Don Morace]

Hi Folks,Don here.Richard Hoagland's Enterprise Mission website has a few aricles on Phobos. http://enterprisemission.com/ Don out............................

[cesarnc]

Hi Folks,Don here.Richard Hoagland's Enterprise Mission website has a few aricles on Phobos. http://enterprisemission.com/ Don out............................

Too bad he doesn't update his website that very often.

[armedequation]

Hi Folks,Don here.Richard Hoagland's Enterprise Mission website has a few aricles on Phobos. http://enterprisemission.com/ Don out............................

Too bad he doesn't update his website that very often.

yeah, I'd like to know how he's proceeding. He was probably when they announced the delay of the mars mission

The thing that kind of surprises me is how we dont have a sat. orbiting mars. Much cheaper mission to start with than a lander and would provide good data useful to a lander mission.....not that i think we would see anything due to nasa controlling image releases

The russians also had a satillite that "malfunctioned" near phobos. Officially the sat malfunctioned and was sent out to space, however unofficial versions have what appears to be an energy beam of some kind coming at the sat from the direction of phobos....

[Bob137]

Maybe whoever's it is, doesn't want earthlings pestering them, and asking a lot of stupid questions! Of course if we asked questions, it would be a better conversation than our governments would probably ask. I would come right out and ask what their agendas are, and whether we can work together, and become friends, or what? Then I would ask if they could tell me anything in regards to their history with Mars, and our planet, and us! The next question would be, can I get one of them spacecraft they got? I really gotta get me one of those!

[seeker1117]

Looks like the Russians are gonna go poke around a bit...wonder if their probe has a camera...they could snap a pic o'that monolith while they're there...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russia-launches-unmanned-probe-to-mars-moon-phobos/2011/11/08/gIQA3Wo61M_story.html

[Bob137]

Thanks for the thread, I hoe they disclose all!

[cesarnc]

I say ETs shut it down

[seeker1117]

Well, it looks like you might be right about that, cesar: it's already in trouble big-time!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15631472
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UPDATE 11/11/11: It ain't lookin' too good!

http://rt.com/news/phobos-probe-space-mars-037/

[romanxxl]

Hopefully Russians will take pictures of monolith of the phobos.Does anybody know where robot will land?is it far from monolith?
How toll this object could be-meters,km,miles.....?

[Bob137]

Well, it looks like you might be right about that, cesar: it's already in trouble big-time!

I would say they have a big problem, and maybe they should do it right the first time!

[seeker1117]

Well, it looks like it is stuck in earth orbit, and if they cannot make any further contact with it, it's gonna crash back to earth.

So who knows....maybe *someone* "intervened"....again....

[armedequation]

new rumors that the phobos probe struck a us satillite of some kind?

­Did US 'climate weapon' knock-out Russian probe?

http://rt.com/news/phobos-grunt-climate-weapon-129/


interesting how this ties in with what was said about the "missle curtain"