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Alien Religion

Postby phoenix » Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:07 am

The philosophy and religion of the alien colonist’s

Was the alien colonists who once visited earth in Biblical times and who created mankind themselves religious? If so, what did they believe in and what was their philosophy?

After having studied a multitude of ancient texts there seems to be some very clear answers to these questions, because not only had they some clear philosophical views regarding life, afterlife and morals, they also practiced a religion with different orders of priesthood, probably called “The order of the ancients”, indicating it must have been a really old religion.

The alien religion

So what was this teaching in this religion all about? Well, here are some keywords. They were pacifists. They practiced baptism. They practiced an order of various stages of priesthood very much like Christianity today do. They were not allowed to strive for earthly goods, like gold, silver and money. They were not allowed to own more than they needed for themselves to live a normal life. They were taught to share everything they had with others. They prayed many times a day and meditated. They followed the ten commandments. They practiced animal and food offerings. They kept the Sabbath day holy. They believed in an afterlife.

We taught our children the commandments which we had been given by Jehovah in the Garden and led them in observing the times of worship and the fasts and feasts of Jehovah the Lord. Every seventh day on the first day of the week, we ascended the hill Ramiah to the Cave of Treasures where we worshipped before the face of Jehovah and instructed our children in the principles of His gospel.”

The Holy priesthood, the order of the elohim, The priesthood of Elias, The order of the ancients and The fellowship of the fathers.

The order of the ancients and the fellowships of the fathers seems to have been the highest rank of priesthood in this holy order of priesthood. To be accepted in this order, one had to start serving as a priest, one could then be accepted into the order of the Elohim. Once in this order one could then be accepted into the priesthood of Elias, and finally one could be accepted into the order of the ancients and the fellowship of the fathers. Once accepted into these last orders one was actually regarded as a real member of the community of the alien colonist’s , and were thus granted the same benefits and rights as them. Priests accepted in the order of the ancients and fellowship of the fathers were also called prophets and were often sent on missions around the world to teach mankind the gospel of the colonist’s. We can read from The Book of the generations of Adam to learn how the different orders of priesthood worked.

“FOUR years after the birth of Cain, a son was born unto my Eve, a son whom we named Abel, for, said I, We see in our children the transitoriness of life and the power of sin and depravity. Nevertheless, this son Abel was a source of joy unto us, for he was filled with the Love of the Eloheim and true to the dedication wherewith we did consecrate him unto Jehovah. After eight years, he was baptized and entered into the covenant, in which thing we did rejoice, for we knew that even in his youth he had been born of the Eloheim. From that time, the gifts of the Spirit were manifested in him and he did begin to minister in the power of the word unto his brethren and sisters. Nevertheless, many of them rejected his words and they did revile him, laughing him to scorn. But Abel went on in the integrity of his soul, bearing witness to the truth, and gathering into the Church of the Anointed all those who would receive the word of the Eloheim, repent of their sins, and come unto the Fathers to be baptized, that their sins might be remitted by the power of the blood of Christ, for as yet none of our children had received the holy priesthood. But when Abel had reached the age of twelve years, he was received into the Holy Order of the Eloheim, and at the age of fourteen, the priesthood of Elias was conferred upon him, that he might begin to serve the people in the authority of the Most High. Two years later, he was ordained a priest and began to assist at the sacrifices.. From his childhood, Abel spent much time with the animals which had become attached to our community. He was gifted in working with them, understanding and caring for their needs, for he could communicate with them better than the remainder of the people whose ears had been closed to the tongue of the animals when we had left the garden. In Abel, however, this gift remained to a great degree; even the wild beasts of the field who feared us, loved Abel and would frolic with him when he was alone. Often we marveled at this evidence that the Light of the Creator had not completely departed from us and our children. Abel continued to grow from grace to grace; he was a joy to all of us who had come out from the garden, and others of our children began to follow his example, turning unto the Holy Order of God and growing in the Light of the Anointed. Often, they would ascend together to the altar which we had placed at the entrance to the Cave of Treasures to offer sacrifices unto Jehovah Eloheim and to worship in His praise. We rejoiced in the growth of another generation dedicated to the service of almighty God and carrying forth the traditions which we had brought forth from the garden. The remainder of our children followed Cain who had entered into a covenant with Satan whereby he had become Perdition, the Master of the Lie, that great secret by which they murder and commit all manner of abominations to get unlawful gain. These had so perverted the truth as to offer sacrifices unto Jehovah in the name of Satan, taking the fruit of the ground and offering it up in an unholy parody of the holy ordinance. But the Eloheim would receive no such offerings and the souls of Cain's people became ever more corrupt and ever more chained to the powers of darkness and evil. In their wickedness, they envied the joy of Abel and the children of Light, turning their hatred against them because they lived at peace with the Eloheim and all the holy angels.. Now, in his twenty-ninth year, Abel received that More Sure Word of Prophecy whereby he stood approved of the Eloheim, being received into the Order of the Ancients, the Fellowship of the Fathers, that he might officiate in the Cave of Treasures, for he was numbered among the Eloheim, having received of the fullness of the Father through the grace of his Only Begotten. This was a time of great joy to us, as we contemplated the growth of Zion among our children and the expansion of the Holy Order of the Eloheim.”

The order of the ancients versus other religions

The alien religion that these colonist’s practiced must have been very important to them, because this religion is one of the first things they start teaching the human beings, and also most of the books of the Bible is about this religion.

As we know. The Satan’s and the Cain’ites totally rejected this religion. The Seth’ites however was a totally different race and accepted it willingly. Thus Adam became the first human being that was taught in the gospel of the colonist’s and became a priest. While the satan’s and the Cain’ites spread around the world,going their own ways. The Seth’ites continued living amongst the alien colonist’s until the time of the great flood when the Shekinah left earth.

As thousands of years went by, this religion eventually spread and separated into many different versions. In part of India , traces of this religion still remains. Buddhism also sprang from this religion and so did of course Mormon’ism and Christianity.

Christianity later sadly lost it’s ways and turned into warship of an rather unknown man that calling himself Jesus Christ who claimed himself to be son of the “God of Israel” (The only begotten). The reason for this claim is probably the fact that several ancient texts seems to prophesize the return of one such son. Personally I think this Jesus Christ was not the real son of this alien colonist, and was thus not the one who he claimed to be. The Alien colonist’s (the son of the god of Israel) have however and according to these same ancient texts promised they will return to earth one day. I believe they will and I will tell you when in a moment.

In America today there is a group of religious people called the Amish people . Their religion and their way of living are probably as close as one can get to the original teaching of the order of the ancient.

After Adam. Adam’s first real son Seth became priest in the order of the ancient. According to the laws that the alien colonist’s gave mankind, all firstborn males amongst the Seth’ite kings always inherited the duty to serve as priests in this order. Esau despised this religion so much that he sold his birthrights to his twin brother to escape this duty. The above mentioned tradition was kept alive until the time of Moses, when the teaching of the order of the ancients eventually took a slightly different direction which we today call Judaism.

At the time after the great flood, it was Noah, his son Shem and Shem’s son Eber who served as priests in this order and they again taught it to their descendents (The Shem’ites). Shem was also known as Melchizedek , the highpriest of Jerusalem. At this time the law that every Shemi’te should give one tent’h of what they earned to the priests was introduced by the colonist’s. Abraham was probably the latest who became a priest in this order and he spent 40 years at the home of Noah and Shem to learn about it. At the time of Moses, beginning with the creation of the Hebrews and founding of the nation of Israel, the order of the ancients was eventually replaced by Judaism and the laws of the Torah, taught to the jews by the “God of Israel”. In Europe , the order of the ancients became Christianity.

Conclusions

Mankind did not create the major religions. Religion (The order of the ancients. Later Christianity and Judaism) was taught to mankind by the alien colonist’s and this religion later separated into several other directions and versions. What mankind themselves created at this time, was idolatry and warship of the sun or the moon.

The return of the alien colonists (our forefathers)

I have read one place that according to ancient Egyptian traditions one Zodiac circle of 25920 years is called One creation day. The six days of creation from the book of Genesis would perhaps thus be (25920*6) = 155520 years. We are now living in the seventh day of creation called the Sabbath day (The day of rest) . We are also now living in the very end of the last age of this Sabbath day. That means that the six days of creation and the one day of rest are almost over, and we are moving into a new day starting with the age of Aquarius. According to ancient texts that means that we are now moving into the time of what these texts claims to be “The end of time”, resurrection , judgement day and the return of the aliens that once created us.

The transition time when we finally enter into the new age of aquarius (and the eight day of creation) should be somewhere between 2010-2082. This transition time is said to last for 72 years, representing one degree in the zodiac, which the Tibetan Buddhists by the way calls The period of no-time.
In the Book of genesis the Hebrew word “Yom” is used on each of the creation days. The word Yom can mean a 12 hour day, a 24 hour day , but it can also mean a “unspecified” period of time.

Please also note that while the Book of Enoch speaks about Eight days, the book of adam and Eve speaks of five and a half day. The most common views in different ancient texts are however that “end of time” will occur after the seventh day is finished.

From the second book of Enoch:

“And I appointed the eighth day also, that the eighth day should be the first-created after my work, and that the first seven revolve in the form of the seventh thousand, and that at the beginning of the eighth thousand there should be a time of not-counting, endless, with neither years nor months nor weeks nor days nor hours.”

From the first book of Adam and Eve:

“GOD said to Adam, "I have ordained on this earth days and years, and thou and thy seed shall dwell and walk in it, until the days and years are fulfilled; when I shall send the Word that created thee, and against which thou hast transgressed, the Word that made thee come out of the garden and that raised thee when thou wast fallen. Yea, the Word that will again save thee when the five days and a half are fulfilled." But when Adam heard these words from God, and of the great five days and a half, he did not understand the meaning of them. For Adam was thinking that there would be but five days and a half for him, to the end of the world. And Adam wept, and prayed God to explain it to him. Then God in His mercy for Adam who was made after His own image and similitude, explained to him, that these were 5,000 and 500 years; and how One would then come and save him and his seed.”

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Re: alien Religion

Postby greekben » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:33 am

I really doubt that such advanced beings would have a "need" for religion. Religion is something invented to control populations. It's speculated that AA invented religion to control us. It's also useful in helping less evolved (mentally) species "cope" with death and the fear of death. Nothing more, nothing less. Oh, well it is also one of the best money making ideas of all time, I mean really. What better tax shelter than a church? Especially these rock concert type things going on in these newage ish styled come one, come all to the coolest event on the block "churches" that are so popular these days.
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Re: alien Religion

Postby cRush » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:53 am

greekben wrote:I really doubt that such advanced beings would have a "need" for religion. Religion is something invented to control populations. It's speculated that AA invented religion to control us. It's also useful in helping less evolved (mentally) species "cope" with death and the fear of death. Nothing more, nothing less. Oh, well it is also one of the best money making ideas of all time, I mean really. What better tax shelter than a church? Especially these rock concert type things going on in these newage ish styled come one, come all to the coolest event on the block "churches" that are so popular these days.


If AA might have inventory religion to control us, isn't it equally plausible that they propagated religion here, as did the Spaniards colonizing South America bring Catholicism?
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Re: alien Religion

Postby Jeff Sheets » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:14 am

cRush wrote:If AA might have inventory religion to control us, isn't it equally plausible that they propagated religion here, as did the Spaniards colonizing South America bring Catholicism?


Sounds like a similar situation. Spaniards imposed religion on the natives as a form of control. When you consider how they basically decimated the culture, then turned them into serfs. I'm sure that the rank and file clerics thought they were saving souls, but the conquistadores and higher level bishops etc. considered them to be just savages to exploit until there was nothing left.

Religion is useful if you want to gain control over a populace. The problem comes in when the populace gains an understanding of the nature of good and evil. Thats when the whole thing eventually backfires.
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Re: alien Religion

Postby phoenix » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:21 pm

It’s probebly correct that the alien colonist’s imposed religion on mankind to control moral. They probably also introduced the (heaven and hell) concept to impose some sort of reward/punishment beliefs to keep mankind from committing to much crime. They did definitely not want mankind to warship the sun and the moons or plenty of idols and perhaps practice human sacrifices , mysticism or cure illnesses with witchcraft and such thing. Such societies only results in anarchy.

As you Jeff points out , Spain did the same thing to the south American Indian races that they conquered. They did however not only impose religion on them, they also imposed their entire culture on them, and that’s what conflicts are very much bout. It’s not entirely the religion aspects of the religion some civilizations wants to spread, it’s more a question of spreading their entire culture.

Christianity for example, are as I see it more than religion. I use to call myself two third Christian, because I devide Christianity into three equally big areas. The Moral part, The cultural part and the philosophical (spiritual) part.

The moral part: This part of Christianity deals with moral issues like the ten commandments. While there are different degrees of morality, I don’t think one needs to be hysterical about it, but agree to the basics. Moral is , whether one like it or not, the glue that keeps people and society from turning into anarchy.

The cultural part: This part of Christianity deals with Christian traditions, like baptism, weddings, funerals. It also deals with Sunday as a special day of rest and celebrating eastern, Christmas and other holidays. It also delas with building beautiful churches, priest ,rituals, prayers and psalms and graveyards and live together in families with one wife and children and many many more things. I have no problem in accepting this concept.

The philosophical (Spiritual) part: This part of Christianity deals with the spiritual questions, like death, afterlife, resurrection, heaven and hell , the universe and such things that we don’t understand (if your not entirely lost in sports, that is), but would like to have a meaning about. This is the part of Christianity I, myself have a little problem with. I have however found that the AA-theory cover’s this need for me simply because it probably closer to the truth than any other beliefs.

Agreeing with the two first parts, I thus recon myself as two/third Christian. So what is my point in telling you all this? I am trying to tell you that religion is more than philosophical and spiritual questions. It is also a part of our culture and moral codes. Our identity. That’s perhaps what have made the western civilization so successful.
If the alien colonist’s gave us Christianity. I don’t think it was because they wanted to give us something bad and something that would make us miserable. They wanted the best for us. After all we are their children.

If people are willing to go to war over religious disputes and kill in the name of religion. They are simply not religious, have misunderstood religion or have hijacked it. It’s that simple. The whole idea (was like I see it) to insure that mankind follow some basic moral codes and perhaps to prevent chaos and anarchy like the situation that arose shortly before the great flood.

Regarding the question (from greekben) if a highly advanced civilization were religious . Well, according to the Bible and all other such ancient texts, they actually were. Maybe it’s the way the human mind are constructed, maybe it’s because of the fact that we are all going to die sometimes and maybe its because we are wondering what time and space are all about. There comes to a point in life when one gets over with, partying, drinking , sex and luxery and realizes that life have other aspects also. That’s where philosophy, meditation comes in and the struggle for egoistic needs gradually fades. We can after all take nothing with us. Not even our memories. Somehow it seems more important as one grow older to leave behind something good to the survivers to be remembered by. I guess the highly advanced civilizations have the same needs. There will always be something nobody knows and wonders about.

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Re: alien Religion

Postby cRush » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:35 am

phoenix wrote:They did definitely not want mankind to warship the sun and the moons or plenty of idols and perhaps practice human sacrifices , mysticism or cure illnesses with witchcraft and such thing. Such societies only results in anarchy.

Most of the earlier religions seemed to encourage this type of spiritual practice. It seems like you are suggesting that the aliens only brought Judaism to the Earth, and everything before that was man's own creation. What evidence can you provide for your last sentence?

phoenix wrote:If people are willing to go to war over religious disputes and kill in the name of religion. They are simply not religious, have misunderstood religion or have hijacked it. It’s that simple. The whole idea (was like I see it) to insure that mankind follow some basic moral codes and perhaps to prevent chaos and anarchy like the situation that arose shortly before the great flood.

The Bible records several instances where God instructed his "people" to attack other nations, and kill EVERYONE - including women and children.
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Re: Alien Religion

Postby Joshua Gibson » Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:15 pm

I've often pondered whether AA's had their own religion, beliefs etc.
From our perspective we are wandering about in an unknown quantity of perceived "truth ''.
How ironic would it be to pass through death with the expectation to ''ascend to the next plane of existence'' only to be judged by the creator of our creators and be cast into nothingness because we were chimera, and unnatural creations of a fallen race? A whole spectrum of possibilities lie out there.

Who's to say that the different religions we see today that share common roots didn't become divided due to political, or religious differences of those ETs charged with the responsibility of those people? Perhaps there were different political groups with their own beliefs that broke away from a larger group and created what we know today.

I can imagine a race of beings so evolved, and powerful that they could create or destroy with mere thought alone, that a lesser yet very advanced race would acknowledge as beings, but refer to as gods for fear/respect. Would an advanced race worship a higher power? I see this as possible.
Even if for the wrong reasons.
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Re: Alien Religion

Postby Moon » Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:27 pm

The Egyptians did think people returned to the stars after they died. They also believed in the place called the Otherworld, which was beyond time and space. There are some researchers who claim the Egyptians not only believed in the Otherworld, but could go there in their physical bodies and come back to Earth. I have to look for the book and researcher who suggested this, but it has fascinated me since reading about it.

This might be what the ancient extraterrestrials knew and taught the Egyptians. If it is possible for us to physically go to this place and come back to Earth, all theology on this planet would change forever. There would also be no control of this knowledge by one or more church hierarchies.
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Re: Alien Religion

Postby greekben » Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:30 pm

maxmercury wrote:The Egyptians did think people returned to the stars after they died. They also believed in the place called the Otherworld, which was beyond time and space. There are some researchers who claim the Egyptians not only believed in the Otherworld, but could go there in their physical bodies and come back to Earth. I have to look for the book and researcher who suggested this, but it has fascinated me since reading about it.

This might be what the ancient extraterrestrials knew and taught the Egyptians. If it is possible for us to physically go to this place and come back to Earth, all theology on this planet would change forever. There would also be no control of this knowledge by one or more church hierarchies.


Sounds a lot like "astral projection". I've seen it speculated that the Egyptians were quite familar with psychoactive plants such as the blue water lilly and it is supposedly often depicted in Egyptian art work.
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Re: Alien Religion

Postby Moon » Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:36 pm

greekben wrote:Sounds a lot like "astral projection". I've seen it speculated that the Egyptians were quite familar with psychoactive plants such as the blue water lilly and it is supposedly often depicted in Egyptian art work.


The difference is the ancient Egyptians were able to move between both worlds with their physical bodies, not just do it with astral projection. Again, I have to dig for the books that reference the research for this and put it here. But if it is true, that would open up so many unlimited possibilities for human kind.
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Re: Alien Religion

Postby Joshua Gibson » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:09 am

maxmercury wrote:
greekben wrote:Sounds a lot like "astral projection". I've seen it speculated that the Egyptians were quite familar with psychoactive plants such as the blue water lilly and it is supposedly often depicted in Egyptian art work.


The difference is the ancient Egyptians were able to move between both worlds with their physical bodies, not just do it with astral projection. Again, I have to dig for the books that reference the research for this and put it here. But if it is true, that would open up so many unlimited possibilities for human kind.

I would absolutely love to read more into this, when you do in fact find that info out. I'll dig around as well.
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Re: Alien Religion

Postby Moon » Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:34 pm

Laurence Gardner is one of the researchers to write about this, and I have also read it from another researcher. I am going to look for those books once I get the rest of my books from my sister who is nicely storing them for me.
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Re: Alien Religion

Postby Bob137 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:31 pm

My understanding of what the Ancient Astronauts believed in was a Cosmic Super Consciousness, and that that is what we are all a part of, and will be with when we depart from our material existence. Religion is not a spiritual based concept, but a material based concept of control utilizing spiritual concepts to manipulate the masses. Spiritual is when one follows their own path to enlightenment through their own discovery, not a stylized set of instructions of morality and self righteousness, but of common sense and kindness, and empathy, and compassion, and love, without being a rat following the pied piper, or a fool and his gold, or a loner amongst many, or pauper amongst thieves, or a priest or preacher amongst his flock.
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Re: Alien Religion

Postby phoenix » Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:00 am

Just a few lines on what the Gods did not like mankind to do

Moral and troublesome primitive practices was without doubt a very important issue to those ancient biblical aliens who created us in the past. Since we are their children, and most of them for some reason left the earth, it is only reasonable that they put a lot of thoughts in a method of controlling us until they come back to check on us again. Religion seems to have been part of this strategy.

Besides the basic ten commandments, there seems (According to the multitude of ancient biblical texts) , to have been some three other key moral and key behaviour issues that they seems to warn of repeatedly. Those issues were:

Abnormal Sexual behavior

Excessive drinking and orgies were obviously not their idea of good moral behavior. Sexual relationships between the same sexes, between adults and children and between family members were not tolerated either.

At the time of Abraham, there use to exist five cities on a plain close to the red sea. Those cities were named , Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, Zeboiim and Zohar. The “God” of Israel got so upset of the moral sins that was going on in these cities that he desided to destroy them. Abraham managed however to save Lot and his two daughters who lived in Sodom and also to convince the aliens to spare the city of Zohar. The God of Israel finally descended to earth with his spaceship (The Shekinah) and destroyd those four cities , probably by using some sort of nuclear missiles. I guess the aliens must have been pretty upset when they used such methods to defend morality.

When the angels had brought forth Lot and his family and set them without the city, he bade them run for their lives, and not look behind, lest they behold the Shekinah, which had descended to work the destruction of the cities (Sodom,Gomorrah,Admah and Zeboiim).

Abraham: "Peradventure there be ten pious in each of the four cities, then forgive Zoar in Thy grace, for its sins are not so great in number as the sins of the others."

The angel then granted his plea that Zoar be left undestroyed. This city had been founded a year later than the other four; it was only fifty-one years old, and therefore the measure of its sins was not so full as the measure of the sins of the neighboring cities

The destruction of the cities of the plain took place at dawn of the sixteenth day of Nisan, for the reason that there were moon and sun worshippers among the inhabitants. God said: "If I destroy them by day, the moon worshippers will say, Were the moon here, she would prove herself our savior; and if I destroy them by night, the sun worshippers will say, Were the sun here, he would prove himself our savior. I will therefore let their chastisement overtake them on the sixteenth day of Nisan at an hour at which the moon and the sun are both in the skies."


Idolatry

Idolatry was another of those key issues that troubled the aliens. The old texts are full of warnings of the consequences of this practice, but I pick this statement from the God of Israel (from Exodus) to illustrate the importance of not doing this and the consequences if doing it.

"I am the LORD your God who brought you out of Egypt, where you were slaves. Worship no god but Me Do not make for yourselves images of anything in heaven or on earth or in the water under the earth. Do not bow down to any idol or worship it, because I am the LORD your God and I tolerate no rivals I bring punishment on those who hate Me and on their descendants down to the third and fourth generation. But I show My love to thousands of generations of those who love Me and obey My laws.”

Also note the serious threat that follows this warning. Controlling mankind by fear and threats using religion is quite obvious here.


Witchcraft, Devination, soothsaying,human sacrifices,Auguring (interpreting signs and omens), sorcery, charming,using mediums, wizardry and necromancing.

All of the above mentioned issues were practices that the aliens wanted mankind to stop practice. Again I pick one statement by random, but those ancient texts really are full of similar warnings about these things. I guess all these practices must have been quite widespread and troublesome in these times, making it harder or almost impossible to develop a more advanced civilization.

“There shall not be found among you any one who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, any one who practices divination, a soothsayer, or an augur, or a sorcerer, or a charmer, or a medium, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For whoever does these things is an abomination to The Lord; and because of these abominable practices The Lord your God is driving them out before you. You shall be blameless before The Lord your God" (Deuteronomy 18:10-13 RSV)”

Was these aliens themselves occupied with religious and spiritual questions? Well, I think so. As we can read about in the first and second book of Adam and Eve, The books of Moses, The book of the generations of Adam, The books of Enoch, the books of the various prophets and many, many more, it’s very much about the aliens teaching mankind religion and laws . If they were ateists, religion would probably be the last thing they would appose us and thus they would perhaps rather have given us the scientific evolution story instead ):-

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Re: Alien Religion

Postby Bob137 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:03 am

Or maybe the reasons they did not want people practicing some of these things, is because t hey do not want them having their own spiritual beliefs and ways of living and learning truths, and to keep them ignorant and slaves through religion and mind control. That God does not seem moral to me at all.
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Re: Alien Religion

Postby seeker1117 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:15 am

I agree with what greekben said above: I *HIGHLY* doubt that the Aliens actually have or subscribe to a "religion" themselves, instead they foisted it upon our species to control us. Phoenix' last post above shows that: thou shalt "NOT NOT NOT NOT"...nothing but control through fear!

To my mind, ANY species that has evolved so far as to "create" another species simply MUST have evolved PAST the need for religion in any way, shape or form.
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Re: Alien Religion

Postby Bob137 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:41 am

I also do not subscribe to advanced beings needing any kind of religion. A spiritual way of being yes, but religion and all it's dogmatic practices is very doubtful for beings that advance to explore the galaxies, star systems, and possibly other dimensions.
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Re: Alien Religion

Postby Slapfish » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:42 pm

It seems to me from much of the reading I've done that it seems as if the early aliens practiced a form of spirituality, but not what we consider to be religion. Of course not ALL of them practiced or lived the same way, but it seems as if at least some of them did and they attempted to teach us these spiritual tenants. There are also a number of ceremonial methods that span the globe. One of them is the sweat lodge. The Ethopian people had a sweat lodge practice that was almost identical to Native Americans. Another similar ceremonial practice is prayer beads. In Buddism the wearer has a necklace with a bead for each prayer and then a larger bead every so many beads to mark a number. This is the same with the Catholic Rosary. This is also similar to a Native American practice of "prayer ties". I'm sure there are many more, but these are some I know of off the top of my head. I think these ceremonies and practices were taught because they help the user reach a state where he or she can more easily and readily obtain information from their higher self or spirit world, or other dimension etc...

It really seems to me that our ancient alien teachers practiced a system of spirituality in which the lines of science, math, geometry, language, sound all merged with spirituality. This is evidenced in the alignments and ratios of megalithic structures and other ancient structures left behind.

What we view as religion was not the product of Gods (aliens) who wanted to teach us and lift us up, but those who wanted to manipulate and use us. Those who taught us to worship them and created priesthoods, I don't believe actually practiced the same thing amongst themselves.
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Re: Alien Religion

Postby Bob137 » Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:08 am

I agree Slapfish, I also think they were a spiritual based beings, not religious based beings. Some believe the two are the same, but they are not at all. A person can be religious, and not be spiritual at all, and a person can be spiritual, and not religious at all.
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Re: Alien Religion

Postby Inquiring Mind » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:31 pm

Bob137 wrote:My understanding of what the Ancient Astronauts believed in was a Cosmic Super Consciousness, and that that is what we are all a part of, and will be with when we depart from our material existence. Religion is not a spiritual based concept, but a material based concept of control utilizing spiritual concepts to manipulate the masses. Spiritual is when one follows their own path to enlightenment through their own discovery, not a stylized set of instructions of morality and self righteousness, but of common sense and kindness, and empathy, and compassion, and love, without being a rat following the pied piper, or a fool and his gold, or a loner amongst many, or pauper amongst thieves, or a priest or preacher amongst his flock.


Brilliant post Bob. You hit it bang on the money.

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful." --Seneca
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