Hopi Creation Myth

[Buzi-Blu]

I've had these notes for about 20 years, but they could be of interest to people here. They give a fascinating insight into the Hopi beliefs of previous civilizations and lost worlds. There are some quite astonishing statements but I will let you make up your own mind.

Hopi Creation Myth – Taken from “The Book of the Hopi” by Frank Waters

The first world was Tokpela [Endless Space]. There was only the Creator Taiowa. No beginning, no end, no time, no shape, no life.

First he created Sótuknang. [Sótuknang molded solid substance into forms] and arranged them into nine universal kingdoms. Tiaowa said “[Place the waters] on the surfaces of these universes so they will be divided equally among all and each.”

“It is very good” said Taiowa.


Spider Woman, Kókyangwuti, took some earth, mixed it with some túchvala (saliva), and molded it into two beings [Pöqánghoya and Palöngawhoya]. These two were sent to the North Pole and South Pole.

Spider Woman then made mankind, like before, and when she uncovered them they were human beings in the image of Sótuknang. This was the time of the dark purple light.

The first people of the First World could not speak. Sótuknang gave them the power to speak and the wisdom and power to reproduce. So the First People went their directions, were happy and began to multiply. They understood that the earth was a living entity like themselves. Corn had been created specially to supply food for mankind.

The people forgot the Creator so Sótuknang would destroy this world. The good people had to live underground with the Ant People. The world was destroyed by fire.


Food began to run short underground. Although it had not taken Sótuknang long to destroy the world, it was taking a long time to cool off.

The people emerged into the Second World, its name was Topka (Dark Midnight). The people multiplied rapidly but became greedy. So again, as before, the chosen people went to live with the Ant People. The world teetered off balance, spun around crazily, then rolled over twice. The world spun through cold and lifeless space and it froze into solid ice.

The Second World remained frozen for many years. Again, when the people emerged they began to multiply but this time so rapidly that they created big cities, countries and a whole civilization. Some of them made a pátuwvota [shield made of hide] and with their creative power made it fly through the air. Soon many cities were making pátuwvotas and flying on them to attack one another. So corruption and war came to the Third World [Kushurza] as it had to the others. Sótuknang would destroy this world with water.

The chosen people were to be saved by using hollow reeds. So he loosed the waters upon the earth. Waves higher than mountains rolled in upon the land. Continents broke asunder and sank beneath the seas. And still the rains fell and the waves rolled in.

They floated for a long, long time. They sent many kinds of birds, one after another, to fly over the waters and find dry land. They kept moving east, hopping from island to island until at last they came to a wall of mountains stretching north and south. This was to be their new land, the Fourth World, the present one. Its name is Túwaqachi, World Complete.

When the previous parts of the world were pushed underneath the water, this new land was pushed up in the middle to become the backbone of the earth.

[Moon]

Interesting creation myth. Does anyone else notice the names sound like they came from the Orient (Japan etc)? Beautiful sounding names.

[Slapfish]

Thanks for posting that. It's been a while since I've read those myths. One of the very interesting portions is the statement that in the early days men could not speak or reproduce. This corresponds perfectly with Sitchins theory (and mentioned in the most recent episode of Ancient Aliens) that the story of Eve and the apple was when mankind was given the ability to procreate and the intellect to understand language.

[mahalla2]

yes, thanks Buzi. I think everyone who is interested in possible connections discovered in Native American myths with epic ancient events should try to find a copy of "The Book of Hopi" (I have two copies - one to preserve and another to highlight certain sections) because the information is really interesting, and I think very timely even for today.

[seeker1117]

I've been fascinated by the Hopi for a long time, as well as the Zuni. Interesting to see the slight differences in translations of these names that exist. I did a research paper on the Hopi creation myth ages ago in junior high, and remember they called the Spider Woman "Spider Grandmother" and her name in that particular instance was translated as "Gogyeng Sowhuti"...pretty close to what's above, at least to the extent that you can see the similarities. The names of "The Twins" were pretty much similar to what you've posted above, Pokangahoya and Polongahoya.

[Sunrisepony]

I think there is much solid evidence to support this being more than just a "myth". What do you all think they were referring to with mentioning "The Ant People" , a form of Insectoid Alien Species? Maybe The Greys? The end of the last world was the global Flood. Before that, The Pleistocene Ice Age, and in-between the ice age and flood. The destruction of Atlantis, and MU. Was it by the deluge of asteroids in the bi-annual meteor showers? The earth falling over and spinning all weird, either a physical or geomagnetic pole shift or both.

[mahalla2]

I think there is much solid evidence to support this being more than just a "myth". What do you all think they were referring to with mentioning "The Ant People" , a form of Insectoid Alien Species? Maybe The Greys? The end of the last world was the global Flood. Before that, The Pleistocene Ice Age, and in-between the ice age and flood. The destruction of Atlantis, and MU. Was it by the deluge of asteroids in the bi-annual meteor showers? The earth falling over and spinning all weird, either a physical or geomagnetic pole shift or both.

When I first read about the Ant People I thought they were referring to some type of religious order for instance those who they would later call the "Black Robes" or Catholic priests, etc. However, over the years I have thought about this more and think they could have been referring to some type of ant like alien species who instructed/guided all the people who were left after the destruction of their environment (perhaps mostly children). And I think a magnetic pole shift could have taken place because there seems to be evidence of that type of event in science.

[Buzi-Blu]

I have always just understood the Ant People to refer to people who live underground, but that raises the question of who could have already been living underground and why?

If these myths have any basis in fact then the history of civilisation sure is an interesting one. However, I also wonder if this could be a North American history. That area has seen some huge disasters in relatively recent times, such as glacial lakes bursting and enormous floods. But, to me, the description of moving east from island to island until they reach the backbone of the earth sounds like a trip across the Pacific and reaching the Rockies/Andies.

This wikipedia page states the last magnetic pole reversal was 780 000 years ago, by the way:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal

[Sunrisepony]

When I first read about the Ant People I thought they were referring to some type of religious order for instance those who they would later call the "Black Robes" or Catholic priests, etc. However, over the years I have thought about this more and think they could have been referring to some type of ant like alien species who instructed/guided all the people who were left after the destruction of their environment (perhaps mostly children). And I think a magnetic pole shift could have taken place because there seems to be evidence of that type of event in science.

Interesting, everything I've read so far (multiple sources) has referred to the Ant People as something along the lines of the Grey Species. But, that's entirely possible.

I have always just understood the Ant People to refer to people who live underground, but that raises the question of who could have already been living underground and why?

It's possible The Ant People were a human species, or alien/human hybrid, or an alien species. As far as why live underground, history speaks of Nuclear wars, and times (even the Hopi Origin story) where the surface was uninhabitable do to radiation or weather or other 'events' as they're referred to. There are people I think somewhere here in the United States, that buy a underground piece of a HUGE Opal mine and build their house underground and really love it. There is through out history documentation of underground living.

If these myths have any basis in fact then the history of civilisation sure is an interesting one. However, I also wonder if this could be a North American history. That area has seen some huge disasters in relatively recent times, such as glacial lakes bursting and enormous floods. But, to me, the description of moving east from island to island until they reach the backbone of the earth sounds like a trip across the Pacific and reaching the Rockies/Andies.

Every Myth, Legend, etc has some basis in fact. Geological History shows if you compare the Hopi Origin Story that it is obviously based in fact, maybe some of it has changed as things passed down verbally have a tendency to do. But it's very easy to compare it to actual events. Also, btw. As I've found through my research (and obviously those of the Ancient Alien Theory are coming to the same conclusions) that when Western Orthodox Theorist can't "explain" something they chalk it off to being Myth. If you remember The City of Troy was relegated to Mythos before being discovered as actually existing. King Arthur was/is generally believed to be Mythological/Legend, but archaeological evidence shows otherwise. Western Orthodox Theorist claim there were no civilizations pre-flood (about pre-10,000 years or so ago), archaeological evidence again shows otherwise. Puma Punku, is 17,000 years old, The Pyramids of Egypt around 11,600 years old, MU and it's Megalithic sites, dotted through out the Pacific Islands and California Coastal Region. About 78,000 years old. The Empire of Aramu Muru originated in/on The Motherland/MU and spread east, south and north going from The Motherland, to South and North America, then into Europe and the middle east. The Mahabharata has an all to accurate history of at least one of the Nuclear wars. The evidence through out the Middle East, Pakistan etc. Also shows evidence of a Pre-Flood Nuclear war or two.

This wikipedia page states the last magnetic pole reversal was 780 000 years ago, by the way:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal

Actually, that site is wrong. The last Geomagnetic Reversal was about 10,000 to 12,000 years ago. It was part of what caused the "floods" in the first place. I've generally found that Wikipedia is a unreliable and biased site. Also it's generally slanted towards being in favor of Western Orthodox Theorist views, which are falling apart at the seams to say the least. And based on a very fixed narrow view of a not true history of this planet. Btw, Geomagnetic Reversals happen about every 12,000 - 15,000 years, sometimes more frequently and are varied as to the strength and effects.

[Bob137]

I also had read of this many years ago, and have always respected Native American legends to be actual events on this planet. I see no reason for their legends to be considered myth, just because orthodox evolutionist cannot fit their beliefs in with the Native Americans. Also the story of our beginnings on earth from the Hopi are very similar to all the others all around the world. Today there is evidence coming to light of a seafaring nation that traveled all around the world in ancient times, after all the previous destruction, our latest civilizations again traveled around the world, and populated in many different regions around the world, and also became mixed in with other peoples, and America seems to have ended up as a melting pot of people, (long before Columbus), maybe because the rockies are the backbone of the world, and is a large Continent that was not occupied as the others, but a place to get away from the ways of the old control freaks. It is sad that America has become the same as the others were and are, and needs to become cleansed of the old ways of manipulation and control of the elite of the rich and greedy.

[deep thought]

to me that sounds like an explanation for the different cycles the universe and our earth went through. it would have to be explained as a relevant story to be taken seriously. you cant shoot off facts and words that have no meaning to man. we could have just been animals ourselves and the gods decided well this one looks good, lets give this one a little intelligence. and then they tried to steer our thinking and way to look at life by explaining these creation myths. giving us a sense of purpose, religion. so we dont just keeping eating and sleeping and procreating, and eventually growing so large as a species that we would destroy the planet itself.
to me its just them trying to show us there is much more out there than is what is right in front of us. be it under the microscope or through a telescope.

[forgottentales]

To my knowledge, and I may be wrong because it's been years since I have read any Native Mythology, but Ant People, Buffalo People, snake people, etc is just a reference to ants, buffalo, and snakes. It doesn't mean they are humans. Natives believe that all creatures on earth are equal. Humans are not above the animals so when they must kill an animal to eat, they apologize to it for killing it and raise it's head on a pike to help it's soul travel to the after life. They respect all living things so, saying ant people doesn't necessarily mean they are talking about other humanoid creatures that look like ants. It's more likely they just mean "ants".

[Buzi-Blu]

Good point forgottentales, that makes quite a difference on the interpretation.

[Ace Rimmer]

To my knowledge, and I may be wrong because it's been years since I have read any Native Mythology, but Ant People, Buffalo People, snake people, etc is just a reference to ants, buffalo, and snakes. It doesn't mean they are humans. Natives believe that all creatures on earth are equal. Humans are not above the animals so when they must kill an animal to eat, they apologize to it for killing it and raise it's head on a pike to help it's soul travel to the after life. They respect all living things so, saying ant people doesn't necessarily mean they are talking about other humanoid creatures that look like ants. It's more likely they just mean "ants".

This is how I understand it too.