Why the Ancient Astronaut theory may not be right

[Sunrisepony]

They did find the huge crater near the Yucatan Peninsula which was caused by a huge asteroid 65 million years ago. This is the one believed to of caused the extinction of the dinosaurs.

Remember, one thing asteroid and comet hits do is release millions of tons of dirt and dust into the atmosphere which blocks out the warmth of the Sun. This would cause much havoc to the life forms throughout this planet.

Right, but I saw on either History Channel or Discovery, I can't remember which. They fully debunked that theory, real main stream paleontologist and anthropologist. They said on the documentary/show that there were no dino-skeletons found in the strata layer that time when the asteroid hit. They talked about the evidence they found in Canada etc. That most of the dinos had in fact died out long before that mostly do to the rising temperature fluctuations and that the one that did hit obviously didn't cause the amount of catastrophic damage that was once believed to have been caused. It wasn't a complete extinction of the world animals, many species survived and many other dino species just evolved into current day birds etc.

[Moon]

I am now researching theories on how the dinosaurs became extinct. There are many Christian sites out there that have some very fun theories but very little real science.

[cRush]

I am now researching theories on how the dinosaurs became extinct. There are many Christian sites out there that have some very fun theories but very little real science.

I've often heard Christian's state that they believe God put the fossils of dinosaurs in the ground just to fool man. I have a real issues with this theory. We are talking about a God who has separated himself from his creation and requires his creation to come to know him through faith alone. Yet, here he is actively attempting to fool his creation into believing the opposite. I hope I'm not the only one who can see the absolute absurdity in this claim.

[Moon]

They also make claims on how the Earth is only 6000 years old and actually have their scientists making claims on how the geologic evidence of the age of the planet is false. Since these sites tend to pop up first on Google Search, I expect they get the most hits. I hope most people are going to them for a chuckle and not taking them too seriously.

[Saxoneer]

They did find the huge crater near the Yucatan Peninsula which was caused by a huge asteroid 65 million years ago. This is the one believed to of caused the extinction of the dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs are not extinct, there may not be giant creatures roaming around like we see in movies but they are still here. Their descendants are all around us in the form of birds! They are in our swamps, rivers and oceans in the form of crocodiles and alligators!

[Moon]

It is true that many dinosaurs are still around in the form of some ancient fishes and crocs. Also, we forget about the birds, which are cousins to dinosaurs.

When I mention the extinction of dinosaurs, I am usually referring to the huge behemoths like T-Rex and others. I do wish some of those creatures were still around, although they would surely be at the top of the food chain.

[cRush]

They also make claims on how the Earth is only 6000 years old and actually have their scientists making claims on how the geologic evidence of the age of the planet is false. Since these sites tend to pop up first on Google Search, I expect they get the most hits. I hope most people are going to them for a chuckle and not taking them too seriously.

Unfortunately, many people are extremely gullible and will believe almost anything they read on the Internet. We have quite a few people here who do the same. It is important to validate the credibility of a site and author before buying into the message they are pushing. Furthermore, the reader must apply critical thinking and rationality to the information before accepting it as fact.

[Pons Asinorum]

I've often heard Christian's state that they believe God put the fossils of dinosaurs in the ground just to fool man.

They also make claims on how the Earth is only 6000 years old and actually have their scientists...

Some Christians do beleive as you suggest, but not all and in fact, probably not most. Indeed, the Catholic Church has no problems with the age of the Earth or the dinosaurs as given by modern science (in fact, even evolution).

What is amusing, is the double standard recognized by cRush.

In my experience (granted, it is anecdotal), more AAT adherents beleive the age of the Great Pyramid and the Sphinx are much older than what modern science has determined, versus the percentage of Christians who beleive the Earth is much younger than what the same science has determined.

Same exact science -- the same methodologies and verification processes -- and in the above sample, both AAT and Christians disbelieve modern science when it is of convenience to them, yet will cite its legitimacy when ridiculing or making false generalities about each other for doing the exact same thing .

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Also of interest, the Bible does not state the Earth or Universe is 6000 years old, but rather: since the time of Adam, about 6000 years have elapsed (with all due respect to those Christians that might disagree). The Six Days Of Creation are deemed separate by biblical scholars (particularly Hebrew) and are not part of Adam's time.

The reason I think that may be important is because when one takes into account the relativistic nature of time since the beginning of Time (roughly one calculated microsecond after the Big Bang, called the moment of quark confinement), well, something odd becomes apparent. It could be coincidental or perhpas our flawed understanding of cosmology. I dunno, but it is present nevertheless.

(I have mentioned this in other threads, so will not bore anyone with yet another retelling, but if interested one can PM me, or do a search in this forum, or simply do the math:

The universe -- that is time and space-- has expanded just shy of a trillion times since Time began -- a factor of about 0.9 X trillion if modern science is correct).

[Buzi-Blu]

I never heard much said of Genesis 1:21 "And God created great whales and every living creature..." (KJV).

Often translated now as great creatures, the Hebrew can mean serpent, sea creature or crocodile. "Great" does indeed mean great, exalted or from the verb to grow.

Without knowledge of dinosaurs, it seems a very curious and coincidental statement, because it quite clearly claims that there were large reptile-like creatures. If it doesn't refer to dinosaurs, then what is being described? What other creatures could fit this description?

[Bob137]

Personally I believe the ancient astronaut theory is mostly right. I also think that ancient humans were farther advanced, but due to world wide destruction's of their own making, and possibly of the natural disasters the destruction's were world wide, and what is left over many destruction's, is what we have on earth now. A lost history and a made up one to fit orthodox thinking. I also believe we have had contact with aliens for the most part throughout history, and that they did assist mankind in rebuilding after each of the disasters, and probably will again when this egotistical, greedy, pathological society of mankind again destroys it's civilization due to it's arrogance. I do have hope there is intervention prior to this, but I am not holding my breath on that. For there to not have been any alien intervention of mankind then how did humans actually all of a sudden come into being, since Darwinism evolution does not prove it, and also all of a sudden mankind got smart and started building gigantic megalithic stone buildings and monuments for no other purpose than to just be able to build something gigantic?

[Moon]

I should state not all Christians believe the Earth to be 6000 years old, just some. The Roman Catholic Church does believe the Earth is billions of years old and does teach evolution in science classes (I had family go to Catholic Schools). I should never generalize about any belief since I do complain about misunderstandings of Paganism. 40 lashes with a wet noodle for me.

[Bob137]

Beat me, Whip me, make me feel used and abused.

[theseeker189]

Going back to the craft that carried the ancient astronauts here, in the book written by zecharia sitchin, the lost book of enki, it states that they needed to land down on mars for refueling. There's ample evidence indicating that there was large amounts of water on mars. Leads me to believe during that time they where using hydrogen, or some nuclear power.

Also with anunnkai life spans, as a shar is one revolution around the sun that last 3600 earth years. I did some simple math, got up to 90,000 earth years, and that was a small fraction of the time they spent on earth alone.

This is as the sumer tablets indicate.

[Bob137]

There are numerous reports of UFO's in our time period in our lakes, and oceans, and a theory that they utilize water in their craft, or maybe it is for drinking, but it is possible for cooling also, or for fuel, or as stated hydrogen from the water, and the oxygen to breathe.

[Moon]

Going back to the craft that carried the ancient astronauts here, in the book written by zecharia sitchin, the lost book of enki, it states that they needed to land down on mars for refueling. There's ample evidence indicating that there was large amounts of water on mars. Leads me to believe during that time they where using hydrogen, or some nuclear power.

Also with anunnkai life spans, as a shar is one revolution around the sun that last 3600 earth years. I did some simple math, got up to 90,000 earth years, and that was a small fraction of the time they spent on earth alone.

This is as the sumer tablets indicate.

One of my problems with Mr Sitchin's work is he bases the alien technology on what was available when he first started writing the books. He states they had Saturn V type rockets in the past, even though they would be considered outdated for a group of visiting extraterrestrials. It is possible scout ships had to refuel (older models), but even they would be using some type of magnetic or electrical type impulse drives.

[theseeker189]

Going back to the craft that carried the ancient astronauts here, in the book written by zecharia sitchin, the lost book of enki, it states that they needed to land down on mars for refueling. There's ample evidence indicating that there was large amounts of water on mars. Leads me to believe during that time they where using hydrogen, or some nuclear power.

Also with anunnkai life spans, as a shar is one revolution around the sun that last 3600 earth years. I did some simple math, got up to 90,000 earth years, and that was a small fraction of the time they spent on earth alone.

This is as the sumer tablets indicate.

One of my problems with Mr Sitchin's work is he bases the alien technology on what was available when he first started writing the books. He states they had Saturn V type rockets in the past, even though they would be considered outdated for a group of visiting extraterrestrials. It is possible scout ships had to refuel (older models), but even they would be using some type of magnetic or electrical type impulse drives.

It seems as though when reading threw it not only did they have "fiery" rockets(which I assume you are taking as v rockets) they had much more, in the first account the ancient astronaut traveled in a nuclear armed craft. I did re-read that part, it was sent up in a fiery rocket but was called a celestial boat, I believe these to be mother ships that were not a rocket type but a nuclear type, with some sort of reactor in them. As it seems that they where right in the mist of a nuclear age during this time.

By no means does this say they didn't have electromagnetic devices and such, I'm just going by what was translated by sitchin as he's one of the few people that can understand sumerian tablets. He leaves room for your own interpretation of what devices they used, a fiery rocket could be lots of things, we don't know what light spectrum these ancient aliens could see.

Another note, the cabin he was sitting in turns a blue hue which to me says fusion!
Also I do remember they described the crafts when landing and they needed to use the water tanks as air tanks to float on earth.

[Bob137]

I could also be that some aliens utilized the more advanced craft, and others utilized less advanced for different functions, and different reasons. Maybe ones from the actual Mother ships were more advanced, and ones that were utilized and made here on earth or the moon, utilized less advanced technologies. We really won't know until we get to ask those questions of the aliens. It is also possible that there were aliens that just used the advanced technologies, and the other craft were used by advanced humans, that finally left earth to get away from the less advanced, and the aliens.

[Moon]

I could also be that some aliens utilized the more advanced craft, and others utilized less advanced for different functions, and different reasons. Maybe ones from the actual Mother ships were more advanced, and ones that were utilized and made here on earth or the moon, utilized less advanced technologies. We really won't know until we get to ask those questions of the aliens. It is also possible that there were aliens that just used the advanced technologies, and the other craft were used by advanced humans, that finally left earth to get away from the less advanced, and the aliens.

That is true also. I read the first book and did noticed all Mr Sitchin stated was the rocket systems used at the time of the writing. They were new to Mr Sitchin and considered to be advanced technology at the time. There was no mention of any other form of travel, which did puzzle me.

[Bob137]

I do not fully agree with all of Mr. Sitchin's interpretations of the Sumerians, and Anunnaki. From what I have read he may have misinterpreted some of them. Such as Niburu is a crossing, not a planet, it supposedly is to the North of where they were at, so that to me is not a planet, but an area of where they came from, which that could mean they were either advanced humans, or aliens, just not from Niburu, but they came to that area form where they were staying on earth, and they called the area where they were staying by another name, and went across (mostly likely mountainous regions), from the North to the South and went through a pass they called Niburu. There is an area of Mesopotamia with a similar name, but I do not remember what it was. I believe it is an area between the Northern area of Iran and Iraq, so that would mean they came from the North or there, and they went through Turkey to Mesopotamia. Now whether they were from the Area of Turkey or farther North into what is now Russia or even farther form the North Pole area, (possibly Hyperbooria), and then down into Mesopotamia, woulds still need to be determined, but I do believe that that is a more likely scenario of what Niburu anyway is, is that it is just a Pass through a certain mountainous area to the valley below that they ended up at.

[theseeker189]

I'll have to re-read these books, there's a lot of information in them and I'm not use to reading the format used. This is what jumped started are own culture though. In no way could evolution alone advance us as we are now. Yes I do believe there was other tribes and such in the area, or even where life could bear it that traded amongst themselves. What I'm getting at is that in no way could evolution spark language, math, and the advanced astronmy system that has been discovered.
Nor could humans as we know could have either, even if they came from another part of the world.
The problem that we have to day and reason we don't fully understand what or how they managed to discover this remains a mystery.

That is why I believe that some where along the lines, and I'm convinced that it happened about the time of sumer, or even much earlier that extraterrestrials either came across our planet or came back to it. And decided to help our race so in the future we could have contact with them and they could show use more of the ways of the universe as they did before.

I just wonder how or why language has changed so much since than, and its happened fairly fast considering how long it took to to figure it out. It seems to me that the ancients knew more about space and how the earth works then we do now.... And taking some modern day science supposing that they didn't know to much about anything. I guess that's how the human brain has worked all these years!

[Bob137]

I believe in the ancient astronaut theory, just not completely, how Mr. Sitchin puts it out, or all others for that matter. I believe each have very good points, that do lend to the ancient astronaut theory, and putting these different view points together brings questioning, and much understanding that something has been going on upon this earth, and within it, and above it, that modern day science and religion does not fully comprehend, or acknowledge. This includes ancient oout of place artifacts from millions of years old to present, along with Giant skulls, and other anomalies upon the earth to include the mystery spot, and other weird and unexplainable locations as triangles and such. Also crop circles, UFO's, and Big Feet! Ha! Ha! That's Big Foot, but just had to try and make a funny one!

[Winjarra]

Where did they come from?

There are many suggestions on where they came from, including our planet, other planets, other solar systems, other galaxies, other universes, and even other dimensions. None can be disproven since the aliens themselves cannot be proven.

ok, these ancient guys are supposedly human like, which means they must have come from other earth like planets. There may be several earth like planets in the Universe. Looks like they came in what looked like modern day space ships. At the rate of 20,000 miles an hour, you could travel from earth to pluto in 20 years. With the newest probe New Horizons from NASA, it may take 10 years.

20,000 mph is the escape velocity speed the Space Shuttle reaches to leave Earth's gravity (well actually ~25,000 mph). I'm unaware of any of the AAT evidence suggesting that ancient astronauts traveled in Space Shuttle type vehicles to our planet. Furthermore, you are assuming that these aliens level of technology was on par with what ours is today. In all reality, it would have had to have been far greater; this is one of those things that has to be taken for granted if you are looking to validate the AAT.

So, these human like forms should spend at least 20 years coming to earth and going back to their planet, if another earth existed in our solar system. Since there is no other earth in our solar system, it is reasonable to assume that they are from even farther earth like planets, making it even longer than 20 years to go back and forth.
Assuming these human like forms have a limited life span, why would anybody spend 20-30 years of their life time to come to earth and go back?

We don't know the lifespan of these life forms. It could be hundreds or thousands of years. Maybe longer. Perhaps they do not experience physical death as we do. When pursuing the AAT truth, it's not necessary to understand how long they lived, or if it was prudent for them to travel to our planet. Likewise, since we know very little about them, we can't begin to understand their motivation for coming, nor for leaving.

Also, why do we not see anything from THEIR world, and only things from OUR world DEPICTING what earthians saw?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this, but I'm assuming you are asking why we don't find any ancient alien artifacts lying around. It is possible that the ancient alien visitors came to our world with very little other than their spaceships (which they took with them when they left). They might have had a few tools, but probably guarded them closely because they would have been extremely valuable and necessary for their survival during their stay on our planet. They most likely took advantage of the resources on the planet while here, thus we find only those things from our world. Some argue that objects such as the pyramids are actually ancient alien structures that have purposes which we simply overlook because we cannot fully comprehend their intended purpose.

How could they have communicated with people thousands of years ago, assuming they were far advanced and we were very primitive? How many people speak sumerian or aramaic now? Languages are lost over time. Not only that, try talking light year to a 3 year old, how would the ancient astronauts even make our primitives UNDERSTAND science?

How does a deaf man learn to write (and speak!)? How did the Spanish teach the Mayans and Aztec their language? How do you learn English when you are growing up? It would be no harder for an advanced alien race to come and teach primitive humans the knowledge of language. Likewise, upon gaining the ability to intercommunicate, we would quickly advance technologically, which is exactly what happened. Whether language was given to us by aliens or by our own invention, it is evident that it spurred a technological boom.

Lastly, if history and religion teaches us anything, it is that our ancestors didn't understand science. Whether or not the aliens attempted to teach our ancestors science is up for debate. All we know is that our ancestors perceived these acts as magic, and thus, developed a fear of these "gods".

Welcome to the site!

Hello Vmatt, i am new here but would like to comment on your post. I believe it is a missconception when people bring up distances, we always talk about what "WE" can and cannot do. Your arguments are sound and one can question as you have done, "How can they traverse such distances". Machio Kaku came up with a theory that they in fact could well be nomadic either by nature or maybe they escaped a dying planet, if that is so, then, in theory by being say, 1 million years more advanced then they would have the means to traverse the huge distances over a millenia, generation after generation. Remember we do not know all there is to know about Physics, maybe we will when we have cracked the theory of everythign, so call String Theory, maybe the AA already have. Regarding how they communicated, well one way would be for the AA's to look how the "natives" at the time communicated with each other and advanced on that. A theory at most. I believe they did teach us science, would not of happened overnight but over hundreds of years maybe. One thing that does bother me though, this is not directed at yourself.. Sceptics say we should give the ancients more credit for their mammoth building tasks instead of saying they had help from extraterrestrials, in other words our ancestors were smart and intelligent, i agree they were but when it comes to our ancestors painting or writing down what today looks like ancient astronauts, strange craft in the skies etc then it is classed as myth and they were not that smart after all, when infact they were, they knew what they saw and recorded it as art and in stone.

Here we can see the Kardashev scale on the different types of civilizations out there, if i am correct this is also based on the Drake Equation, if i am wrong please correct me.

Type 1, 2, & 3 Civilizations


Type I – this civilization harnesses the energy output of an entire planet.

Type II – this civilization harnesses the energy output of a star, and generates about 10 billion times the energy output of a Type I civilization.

Type III – this civilization harnesses the energy output of a galaxy, or about 10 billion time the energy output of a Type II civilization.


A Type I civilization would be able to manipulate truly planetary energies. They might, for example, control or modify their weather. They would have the power to manipulate planetary phenomena, such as hurricanes, which can release the energy of hundreds of hydrogen bombs. Perhaps volcanoes or even earthquakes may be altered by such a civilization.


A Type II civilization may resemble the Federation of Planets seen on the TV program Star Trek (which is capable of igniting stars and has colonized a tiny fraction of the near-by stars in the galaxy). A Type II civilization might be able to manipulate the power of solar flares.


A Type III civilization may resemble the Borg, or perhaps the Empire found in the Star Wars saga. They have colonized the galaxy itself, extracting energy from hundreds of billions of stars.


By contrast, we are a Type 0 civilization, which extracts its energy from dead plants (oil and coal). Growing at the average rate of about 3% per year, however, one may calculate that our own civilization may attain Type I status in about 100-200 years, Type II status in a few thousand years, and Type III status in about 100,000 to a million years. These time scales are insignificant when compared with the universe itself.


On this scale, one may now rank the different propulsion systems available to different types of civilizations:

Type 0
Chemical rockets
Ionic engines
Fission power
EM propulsion (rail guns)

Type I
Ram-jet fusion engines
Photonic drive

Type II
Antimatter drive
Von Neumann nano probes

Type III
Planck energy propulsion

[Ace Rimmer]

Sceptics say we should give the ancients more credit for their mammoth building tasks instead of saying they had help from extraterrestrials, in other words our ancestors were smart and intelligent, but when it comes to our ancestors painting or writing down what today looks like ancient astronauts, strange craft in the skies etc then it is classed as myth and they were not that smart after all, when infact they were, they knew what they saw and recorded it as art and in stone.

Yeah it's kinda hard to have it both ways.
We either lost a lot of technology or we had help. I can't see it any other way, I can't believe humans were dragging huge, enormously HUGE, stones around or were able to carve rock with such precision using primitive tools.

A person can't find a better book on this subject than Christopher Dunn's Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt: Advanced Engineering in the Temples of the Pharaohs.

[Winjarra]

I have a question.......
If these aliens were so many thousands of years ahead in all the sciences. Why did they use drills to carve egyptian stone ?
The so called 'sarcophagus' in the great pyramid has been shown by Chris Dunn to have been drilled !
Did they not have a laser or some other futuristic device ?
Does that not point to the strong possiblity that man made it ?

He has shown it can be done, but what he doesnt show is how to do it with such clinical precision. Same as i can make a youtube video showing a hub cap being thrown in the air claiming it is a flying saucer but that does not mean the UFO's from unknown origin do not exist.

[Winjarra]

Sceptics say we should give the ancients more credit for their mammoth building tasks instead of saying they had help from extraterrestrials, in other words our ancestors were smart and intelligent, but when it comes to our ancestors painting or writing down what today looks like ancient astronauts, strange craft in the skies etc then it is classed as myth and they were not that smart after all, when infact they were, they knew what they saw and recorded it as art and in stone.

Yeah it's kinda hard to have it both ways.
We either lost a lot of technology or we had help. I can't see it any other way, I can't believe humans were dragging huge, enormously HUGE, stones around or were able to carve rock with such precision using primitive tools.

A person can't find a better book on this subject than Christopher Dunn's Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt: Advanced Engineering in the Temples of the Pharaohs.

Then i shall find it and give it a read, I made a comment on my post above about Chris Dunn, it was to comment on the previous post, he shows how it could of been done but to get that kind of precision on granit then you would most likely need Diamond, and how would they of found that out? Diamonds must be mined unless blown out of a volcano, however there are no volcanos that i know of that existed let alone in that region. Chris Dunns theory is sound but i wanted to give a comparison.

I shall deffo read the book.

[Augmented Ape]

Ithink we could have had 'help' and lost/forgotten stuff (especially as such knowledge is often the preserve of exclusive castes, who are often 'purged' following conquests etc)

Mystics such as Blavatsky say that after Atlantis was submerged, the remaining people turned from thier Hi-tech advanced science, blaming it for having violated cosmic laws which lead to the destruction of thier civilisation.

They still had an understanding of science (greater than we have now) but were wary of using a lot of it (genetics & Tesla type stuff)

I have a theory that they (the Atlanteans ) could have established off world colonies, & that those colonists could have visited Earth now & again after the deluge, trying to re-plant lost knowledge, & kickstart development

[Moon]

Sceptics say we should give the ancients more credit for their mammoth building tasks instead of saying they had help from extraterrestrials, in other words our ancestors were smart and intelligent, but when it comes to our ancestors painting or writing down what today looks like ancient astronauts, strange craft in the skies etc then it is classed as myth and they were not that smart after all, when infact they were, they knew what they saw and recorded it as art and in stone.

This is a wonderfully true statement. The skeptics and debunkers want it both ways when it comes to the paranormal or fringe scientific ideas.

[Winjarra]

Sceptics say we should give the ancients more credit for their mammoth building tasks instead of saying they had help from extraterrestrials, in other words our ancestors were smart and intelligent, but when it comes to our ancestors painting or writing down what today looks like ancient astronauts, strange craft in the skies etc then it is classed as myth and they were not that smart after all, when infact they were, they knew what they saw and recorded it as art and in stone.

This is a wonderfully true statement. The skeptics and debunkers want it both ways when it comes to the paranormal or fringe scientific ideas.

Thing is that gets me everytime is those sceptics such as dawkins, the Athiest claim he is a world famous biologist, that is not the case really, he is no more academically famous than Stanton Friedman, Both are famous for there beliefs, Dawkins being the militant Athiest and Friedman the Ufologist. Now, one of the biggest arguments of these sceptics such as Dawkins is evidence, when we produce it, such as witness testimony from credible people, or from our ancients they claim it is anecdotal and doesnt count, what they forget is that anecdotal evidence is used all the time, it is used in the courts to convict, without anecdotal evidence we would not be able to function as a society. If Dawkins really believed what he preaches then imagine this.

Dawkins one day is out for a walk, he is lost, so he askes a man who has lived all his life in the area for directions. The man tells Dawkins the way but instead of following it Dawkins goes in the opposite direction because there is no proof the man knows what he is talking about. Just because something hasn't been proven and established in mainstream science doesn't mean it doesn't exist or isn't true. If it did, then nothing would exist until proven or discovered. Bacteria and germs would never have caused illnesses until they were proven and discovered, smoking would not cause cancer until it was proven, the rock Pluto would not have existed until it was discovered, etc. Anyone knows that this simply is not so.

[armedequation]

detractors would say that theres no proof. However when you look at ancient civilizations (sumerians, egyptians, mayans) they seem to get most of their knowledge from the stars or being from the heavens. I dont know how you can interprete that as anything other than extraterrestial....

I try not to let it get to me but it bugs me when I am told that I am niave becuase I believe in ET's and the like when I am simply going off what was presented to me by these ancient cultures..... unless they are saying from the heavens translates to beings living in the clouds, I dont see how it could be another way from todays standpoint.

[Bob137]

To me if it had just been one or two cultures from close proximity of each other saying this, then I would tend to believe that they were just making stories, or misunderstood what was going on, but when there is most all cultures from all around the world of ancient times stating similar, and some the same descriptions of beings form space coming down to earth, and creating, assisting, teaching, and manipulating whole populations of peoples throughout ancient history, then I tend to believe that as true, not made up science fiction.

[Augmented Ape]

To me if it had just been one or two cultures from close proximity of each other saying this, then I would tend to believe that they were just making stories, or misunderstood what was going on, but when there is most all cultures from all around the world of ancient times stating similar, and some the same descriptions of beings form space coming down to earth, and creating, assisting, teaching, and manipulating whole populations of peoples throughout ancient history, then I tend to believe that as true, not made up science fiction.

Exactly ! For me the Dogon tribe is the most startling case, as they have known things for centuries that science has only recently verified, and they don't have the halmarks of an advanced people themselves ( pyramids & other architechture that uses advanced mathematics etc)

[Sunrisepony]

I try not to let it get to me but it bugs me when I am told that I am niave becuase I believe in ET's and the like when I am simply going off what was presented to me by these ancient cultures..... unless they are saying from the heavens translates to beings living in the clouds, I dont see how it could be another way from todays standpoint.

At this point, considering the vast amounts of evidence etc. Suffice to say, it's the Non-Believers of Off-Worlders that are the niave ones. Some of the more Benevolent species are shocked that we haven't moved beyond our archaic belief systems (ie: Major Religions) that are outdated by centuries.

[Moon]

detractors would say that theres no proof. However when you look at ancient civilizations (sumerians, egyptians, mayans) they seem to get most of their knowledge from the stars or being from the heavens. I dont know how you can interprete that as anything other than extraterrestial....

I try not to let it get to me but it bugs me when I am told that I am niave becuase I believe in ET's and the like when I am simply going off what was presented to me by these ancient cultures..... unless they are saying from the heavens translates to beings living in the clouds, I dont see how it could be another way from todays standpoint.

There are two answers as to where the information came from:

1. A very ancient civilization in antiquity which disappeared for some unknown reason. This answer gets ignored as it would give leverage to the Atlantis theories out there.

2. Ancient extraterrestrial contact. I do think the alignments to the star systems show this to be a solid theory. Add in the DNA evidence of the skull finds and we could have proof of ancient ET visitation. This would change our world view forever.

I do say it is both. We had advanced enough for contact to be initiated and something happened to the civilization of antiquity. What happened is still being debated and researched. A comet hit is one idea, and others include human causes.

Either answer is not good with the mainstreamers.

[Sunrisepony]

Humans were genetically engineered. But, anyway I heard an interesting theory that the Annunaki or which ever race it was that got labeled the 'Fallen Angels' but I seriously think it was the Annunaki, were responsible for causing the great flood and banished from the earth.

[Bob137]

My understanding of the Anunnaki is there were the more or less Overlords, and Enki was in charge, and then there were others that were on the Mars outpost, and they are what is called the fallen angels, for rebelling against Enki, or pissed him off anyway, possibly for having sexual relations with human women, and creating hybrids naturally instead of artificially inseminating and manipulating the DNA so they wouldn't be so smart and advanced, or have extra powers. as Enki was having done. The Fallen Angels created the so called Giants, and Mighty men, Titans of old, that Enki destroyed in the flood. In my book that tells me Enki was a control freak, and got pissed and threw his rattle out of the crib, because he didn't get his way, so he murdered millions of beings to show everyone who is boss, and that he should be considered a God and to kiss his you know what or else.