Are humans hominids?

[Quelquechosedautre]

(Please note that this thread is the result of serious long term consideration and research. It is NOT a joke.)

Just because something may seem obvious does not make it true.

It is proposed by Giorgio and others that humans were the result of DNA manipulation by aliens.

Consider the following...

- Research labs invariably test drugs and medical research on lesser animals before treating the main subject, such as cats.
- Cats evolved over 55 million years ago. Less that 10million years after the T Rex stalked the earth, intelligent memebers of the cat family were roaming the plains.
- Cats bear a certain uncanny similarity to humans.
- Cats were regarded as gods by the Ancient Egyptians.
- Recent research shows that human brains function much more similarly to that of cats rather than any other memeber of the ape family.
- Whilst the cat voicebox is incapable of human speech, as any cat owner will confirm, they can mimic human internation of words like "food" and "out"
- Cats have many of the same emotions as those of humans, like jealousy and mourn lost loved ones.
- Only two creatures on Earth have a sense of humour - humans and the Turkish Angora cat, widely accepted as the smartest cat in the world. Originating from the same region as the Ancient Sumarian Civilization, some Turkish ANgora are literally known to have set up practical jokes for their owners, an action that could have no beneffit toward their survival in the wild.
- In the 1990's, "Cat Paintings" first broke loose on the art market. It has been found that one in six cats are capable of producing crude representations of reality using paint on their paws. Interpretation and CREATION OF REPRESENTATION of the real world in 2-dimensional, symbolic format is unique to cats and humans.

Conclusions...

- DId Ancient aliens test run DNA manipulation, maybe even using their own DNA on cats first?

- ARE WE HUMANS, IN EFFECT, ADVANCED CAT BRAINS IN THE BODIES OF GIANT APES?
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[JessieD]

Humanoid adj. : having human form or characteristics. (Thanks to Merriam Webster for the actual definition.)

The term humanoid is used to describe an object that looks human or has characteristics of being human. I would say that Humans Are Humanoid. I don't think this human-cat connection is really there. People tend to try to humanize animals and favored objects (like swords and cars). People also tend to try to look for faces in everyday items like rocks, tree leaves, etc...seeing Jesus in a cornflake. I do think that there are other animals that have a higher level of consciousness like cats, canines, dolphins, apes, ravens, etc. These animals will actually consider the task at hand (unlike fish or chickens who just do what they do), problem solve, they have big personalities on an individual level, they play, they mourn, they learn.... With what you are proposing the term "cat" could easily be replaced with any other intelligent animal.

[Quelquechosedautre]

I deeply disagree. Many of the points that I scheduled are unique to cats and humans.

Furthermore, the term "hominid" means that associated with man. There were many species of humans around a few tens of thousands of years ago, but if I am correct, they ALL became extinct as the current "man" is actually a repackaged, upgraded cat.

[JessieD]

I deeply disagree. Many of the points that I scheduled are unique to cats and humans.

Furthermore, the term "hominid" means that associated with man. There were many species of humans around a few tens of thousands of years ago, but if I am correct, they ALL became extinct as the current "man" is actually a repackaged, upgraded cat.

I did read that Hominid part wrong. I have my 4 yr old nephew today.

Hominid means "any of a family (Hominidae) of erect bipedal primate mammals that includes recent humans together with extinct ancestral and related forms and in some recent classifications the gorilla, chimpanzee, and orangutan."

[Vance]

Well this is a new one.

"Recent research shows that human brains function much more similarly to that of cats rather than any other memeber of the ape family."

While this might be true we have to remember evolution isn't linear and the last known common ancestor between chimps and humans dates back to somewhere between 5-7 million years ago.

So that's up to 7 million years evolving on a separate line. I'm sure if we could study the functionality of say, Cro-Magnons, Neanderthals, or AMH's from Africa, we'd see where the similarities lie.

Also, I think Giorgio's main point was that they infused their DNA with our own, creating modern man (H. Sapiens Sapiens) as we know it.

[Moon]

Humans and cats do share many similarities, but the same can be said of humans and dogs. I do see where you are going with this theory as it is possible the ETs tested other animals before they started on us humans.

It would make sense they would start on a smaller animal before upgrading to the more complex humanoid species running around on this planet at the time.

I am not 100% sold on the Intervention theory either as a basic question never gets answered: How did the aliens come to being?

[Vance]

I am not 100% sold on the Intervention theory either as a basic question never gets answered: How did the aliens come to being?

And how should we go about answering that? Lol.

[Saxoneer]

Humans and cats do share many similarities, but the same can be said of humans and dogs. I do see where you are going with this theory as it is possible the ETs tested other animals before they started on us humans.

I'm glad you can see where this is going!

How did the aliens come to being?

How did you come into being max?

(Please note that this thread is the result of serious long term consideration and research. It is NOT a joke.)

Really!

[Corcaigh]

I have a horse who has a sense of humour, and expresses emotion. Cats are not the only "hominid" animals out there.

[Moon]

How did you come into being max?

Do you really want to know?

And how should we go about answering that? Lol.

Exactly! That is the $64 million question. The Intervention Theory is nice at first, but it is like the question asked about how God became God.

Is it possible one planet developed by natural accident and they seeded the Universe?

[O-D]

Well, don't most scientist believe that all creation was just spontaneous and accidental?

Not like some being of enormous power clapped his hands and the big bang happened.

[Moon]

Well, don't most scientist believe that all creation was just spontaneous and accidental?

Not like some being of enormous power clapped his hands and the big bang happened.

Given how complex DNA and other building blocks for life, that is why some view the Intervention Theory as reasonable. I remember being taught that we all came from primordial soup and life started in the sea.

Maybe someone creates a time machine and goes back to the beginnings of the planet to plant life to start.

[Quelquechosedautre]

Why assume that they merely infused our DNA with their DNA?

Why not take the best physical creature, namely the ape and infuse it with the an upgraded brain facility of the liberty-loving cat so that they can bootstrap themselves instead of staying in the neanderthal's rut?

Consider, did not the ANcient Egyptians regard them as Gods?

And did not the ancient religions of the Middle East who constituted the Maji, which went on to for m the basis of Medieval "magic" and witchcraft regard the cat as an equal being?

In essence, I am suggestng that, DNA-wise, our brains and their development part of the DAN could be actually that of a cat.

[Buzi-Blu]

While it would be fascinating if any intervention had taken place, to me such theories smack of laziness. Whenever we come across something unusual in nature it is all too easy to claim that some intelligence created it, rather than find a mechanism of how it could arise naturally.

We had these arguments for years before the theory of evolution, or before geology. The same can be said in almost any science, but step by step we have come to understand the world better and the mathematics that seems to govern it.

"Accidental" is possibly the wrong word. The process of change and increasing complexity is predicted from the mathematics, although the precise outcomes are the result of chance. There is still an enormous amount to learn about these processes, and it is premature to resort to outside intervention, especially in the absence of any proof (or even evidence) that such intelligences exist.

Intelligent life must evolve somewhere first without intervention, and if so then why can't it have evolved here on earth in that way?

[JessieD]

While it would be fascinating if any intervention had taken place, to me such theories smack of laziness. Whenever we come across something unusual in nature it is all too easy to claim that some intelligence created it, rather than find a mechanism of how it could arise naturally.

We had these arguments for years before the theory of evolution, or before geology. The same can be said in almost any science, but step by step we have come to understand the world better and the mathematics that seems to govern it.

"Accidental" is possibly the wrong word. The process of change and increasing complexity is predicted from the mathematics, although the precise outcomes are the result of chance. There is still an enormous amount to learn about these processes, and it is premature to resort to outside intervention, especially in the absence of any proof (or even evidence) that such intelligences exist.

Intelligent life must evolve somewhere first without intervention, and if so then why can't it have evolved here on earth in that way?

I think we emerged from the soup and later on there were interventions. Didn't Giorgio say that, according to theory, by the time the aliens landed and started mining for gold we were neanderthals?

[Saxoneer]

If humans were walking around with cat brains, wouldn't we all be constantly sitting in the middle of the living room with one leg in the air and licking our ass?

[Moon]

The chances of DNA being formed by accident is the same as a Boeing 747 being fully constructed after a hurricane hits a junkyard.

This is from some very good researchers out there, like Mr Colin Wilson.

[Ace Rimmer]

Intelligent design. That's about all I know for now.

[isitmeorwhott?]

Have you ever noticed that all animals eyes glow when a light is shinig directly into there eyes. Sometimes I swear it looks like you are looking into their head and looking into their soul or is that they have no soul? Is there some kimd of scientific explanation for this? Because a human beings eyes do not behave like this.(Even though we all no a few humans who we swear there is nothing up there ) Anyway we could be a homonid body constructed for our world to live and breath just like all the creatures that were already here. But with a different brain maybe a brain maybr similar to one of our creators. It could be a highly highly advanced space suit we are all in at the moment. All religions and past civilization claim we are here to serve God from the Anunakeys (spelling?) to the modern day christians. Seems like we are here to work for our creator or creators. Anyway it is just a thought. Oh did I say thought? ( Hugh Hugh? Now you see what I mean!?)

[forgottentales]

Their eyes glow because they spend a lot of time surviving in the dark and need the extra light receptors to be capable of doing that. We don't see in the dark as well as most animals do; we don't have the light receptors and we would do our hunting in the daylight. That gives the animals more of a chance against us, is the way I see it.

I don't believe we have any resemblance to cats. Cats lay around more than they do anything else and if we were like them we would never had advanced past building tree houses to sleep in.

IDK if aliens mucked with our DNA to create Homo Sapiens or not. Neanderthals were not stupid, they had bigger brains than we do. I think they're mucking with our DNA more to help them.

And Gawd, I don't believe in at all. It's more likely that life progressed slowly by chance.

[isitmeorwhott?]

Well then again we all have a speech gene that other creatures do not have. So why is that? Scientists don't even know. So if we are hominids or creations of a divine creator. I am putting in for a tune up . It's almost time anyway. There are a couple of genes I would like them to unlock or add to my brain. Wouldn't it be great if our creator planted or unlocked the all new foolproof love and compassion gene in all of us? Just like speech we would do it without even thinking bout it. .
If man had no imagination he would not exist. The imagination is the key to our present reality. Free thinking was a no-no for many years punishible by death. I am trying like hell to catch up! Anyway I am getting off track. I think err.. a therefore I am...,.? Oh I just have to stop!

[Quelquechosedautre]

<<<<Cats lay around more than they do anything else>>>>

On this basis, try walking around any Government office and watch the employees for a while and you'll see plenty of evidence for similarity on these grounds.

[Buzi-Blu]

The chances of DNA being formed by accident is the same as a Boeing 747 being fully constructed after a hurricane hits a junkyard.

This is from some very good researchers out there, like Mr Colin Wilson.

Dear oh dear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBHEsEshhLs

All I am going to say is that evolution begins with chemicals that reproduce, and from that (eventually) evolves DNA that is very evolvable. The evolution of evolvability is key - genes can be switched on or off to produce all the variety we see around us.

[Saxoneer]

Hey Blu, did you just invent a new word...evolvability!

[Buzi-Blu]

Hey Blu, did you just invent a new word...evolvability!

Heard it on a BBC documentary What Darwin Didn't Know, but I did Google it just to check

It's not something that is stressed that often, but is an important point. Lifeforms that use a design that can easily be modified without becoming non-functional will be more able to evolve to fill niches.

Imagine you want a sine wave:- y=sin(x) will do it. But y=A.sin(x-B) will be far more adaptable.

[Moon]

DNA and modern lifeforms are extremely complex is all I noted. The chances of all this being the result of electricity striking some ooze to create it is extremely high.

[AnuAtlantian]

My compliments Quel on a great topic
There are the 2 views of evolution and creation. Those who view evolution block any talk of creation or any religious coment, thats just how it is. Some are the same about creation also.

Heres what I found. Yes we were the homonids, not apes, not monkeys, but as a homoerectus or neanderthal. Now the Anunnaki or Ancient Astronaut people came here about 445,000 years ago.

As far as evolution is, There were extinction periods of life on earth,
The primordial soup period,
The Dinosaur period,
The ice age mammals period till the flood,
The modern period after the flood.

The Dinosaurs became extinct by a global catastrophy (catastrophe) A comet or meteor impact that changed the climate. Seedlings and certain reptiles and mammals survive. It was after this time in the age of mammals before the ice age that the Anunnaki Astronauts came.

Evolution for me is - NOT that we were, one celled, to fish, to reptiles, to mammals, to apes, to us.
Evolution for me is - an enhancement by selective breeding. As the birds choose mates of best color and talents, the mammals choose the biggest the strongest dominant fighter.

Creation is a factor to consider. If not a cosmic creator of all life forms, then still unknown is the ID of a creator to discover.

The Anunnaki are the original people who have done what I call -manipulation of already existing species, by DNA splicing. From the many forms of exotic life on Earth, to Upgrading a hominid homoerectus or neanderthal to us, homosapien - we a sub-species of the Anunnaki Human by 2 manipulations.
Our first manipulation by the Anunnaki Human, (DNA splicing of Anunnaki human and earth homonid, like test tube baby) we were made into the Cromagnon (Caveman). Primative but new Earth Human Looking, as a worker human race, the Adamu.
Our second manipulation was a mating of the Anunnaki Human and Cromagnon Human, we were born the now civilized homosapien people, the Adapa ( the biblical Adam and Eve)

Now consider this. - We as they did, have manipulated many species of life on Earth. We by selective breeding have created different types of Dogs and their sizes Giant miniture toy, plus types of Domestic Cats. We have Created by DNA experiments new types of domestic tank fish, types of domestic Rats. We have mated a Lion and a Tiger and was born the Liger. This same thing is the Anunnaki human and the Cromagnon human, to make us Homosapien the Adam and Eve to be more in their image, The Anunnaki- the Elohim.


The Anunnaki People have an elongated rear head, and asian style eyes, long hair.
If we can see them now, they do look different, like an Alien Human.
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