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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:46 pm    Post subject: Ancient Aliens - History Channel Reply with quote

I just finished watching this special on History Channel and i was wondering why Giorgio or Jason either one mentioned the Sumerian culture and the Annunaki? I thought these guys were 100% behind the Annunaki based on videos on youtube so i was shocked that they didn't go into Stitchin and the Annunaki.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I originally had the same thought, why hadn't Sitchin or the Sumerians been mentioned. But the reality of it is Daniken's AAT was the focus of the program, and Sitchins work , albeit astounding, is an offshoot of AAT that requires more interpretation and lacks some of the physical evidence that the History channel focused on. To mention the Annunaki and Sitchins interpretation of Sumerian texts would not have made much sense for a 5 minute segment as part of a larger special, instead it would require a two hour special of its own!

Also for all we know Giorgio and Jason could have mentioned the Annunaki but those segments were edited out of the final show. I work in television post production and trust me, a TON of stuff is left on the cutting room floor.

That being said i really enjoyed the program tonight, the "debunkers" really came up short in response to the mounds of physical evidence provided by the AAT interviewees and History channel footage. The idea that the Nazca lines are simply works of art, or glorified hiking trails for a spiritual journey and are not intended to be viewed from the sky just cracks me up.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it was a good show! I, too, would have liked to have heard about the Sumerians and a lot of other material, but it was only 2 hours. We would need many many hours to accurately discuss everything.

How about a mini series!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that more time would have been needed but, Sumerian information was tantamount to everything they were conveying. For people who watched the show tonight and for the first time were hearing of this from Giorgio and Jason's point of view will be skeptical of them in the future if they later hear them speak of Sumerian/Annunaki. They will think, hey, I saw these guys in a History Channel special and they didn't say anything about this and then it makes them look wishy washy. You can't tell this story tonight and not tell of the Annunaki. Just my opinion
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did anyone tape the show?

And if so can I get a copy?

Sorry to ask but I only receive 2-TV channels out here in the middle of the country… Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:56 pm    Post subject: Ancient Astronauts on History Channel Reply with quote

I have just watched "Ancient Astronauts" on the History Channel. I have never seen a more comprehensive and thorough examination of the evidence. The skeptics (as usual) sounded like they were whistling in the dark. Everyone involved with the production deserves a big pat on the back. I hope this brings more members to Legendary Times.
Keep up the good work.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, i'm a new member and after watching the special on History channel, i was searching Google about ancient astronout theories and this page came up.
And i agree with you Twichell, the skeptics were not making any sense.
As one of the people on the show put it: "The skeptics are afreaid that they don't have all the answers so they reject anything else"
I mean it's amazing how people 17.000 years ago (Stone Age) can cut gigantic stones weighing several tons with laser cut precission.
The site in Bolivia for example, in the huge stone structures there are lines about half an inch which are cut with laser precision. What tool in stone age can do that?
It's amazing.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two words to describe the 'Ancient Aliens' show: KICK ASS!

Thank you very much for your kind and encouraging words. I am very pleased how the program turned out. ...and that's an understatement.

In my opinion, this was the best Ancient Astronaut documentary since 'Chariots of the Gods' came out as a movie back in 1970.

It took 40 years for someone to pull this off and we did it. I am very proud that I was hired to be the Consulting Producer for this program. I would have not allowed for my name to be attached to any project that did not treat the subject matter in a thorough and dignified manner. The production company actually listened to my suggestions and ideas. I'm stoked that we were given a platform in which our interview soundbites were not cut apart and presented out of context. They actually allowed us to speak in complete sentences and we had the chance to bring our point across!

In fact, this was actually the first time in a VERY long time that "our" side of the story was presented in a proper and correct manner! There were no blows below the belt by overzealous debunkers, no dumb "Twilight Zone" inspired music in the background, no old and campy "sci-fi" movie clips etc. The visuals were stunning, the footage and animations a feast for the eyes, enhanced by a spellbinding musical score.

In the finishing act of the program one debunker even went on record saying that "If the Ancient Alien Astronaut Theory is somehow proven to be true this would be a huge boon to my work and to the search for other planets like Earth with life on them. Because if Alien Astronauts did visit Earth in the distant past, it means they're pretty nearby."

I mean, this is incredible because this statement came from an astrophycisist. Because she IS right! Of course this would be great for science in general.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, i congratulate you Giorgio it was an excellent program indeed.
I am suprissed why people don't want to hear alternative stories and does it have to take 40 years for things to be taken seriously by TV channels or other mainstream media.
It's seems just like with everything else, the mainstream media would like to keep status quo.
Imagine what would happen if someone someday can come up with a pill to cure diabeties.
Do you know what would happen?
The billion dollar industry that produces diabetes products would cease to exist and there may be a lot of pissed of people.
Some thing would happen if someone came up with an engine that does not use gas but water instead. Dependence on oil would be gone and all the companies that produce oil would be gone.

Now..imagine what could happen if people spend more time and money (instead of wars) researching our past with an open mind and arriving to the conclusion that people 17.000 years ago could not have build such structures themselves. What would happen?
What would happen to religion and all the status quo as we know it.
A lot of people don't like change, but i've always embraced it.
We as a species think that are smart and we know everything but we are so arrogant that we don't see our ignorance.
If instead we as a species devoted half of the time we spend fighting each other to science instead, we as a race would arrive to amazing discoveries.

By the way, i recorded the History channel special. Hopefully there are more shows like this in the future.

Thanks again.
Engert.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

upperworld wrote:
[...] for all we know Giorgio and Jason could have mentioned the Annunaki but those segments were edited out of the final show. I work in television post production and trust me, a TON of stuff is left on the cutting room floor.


Indeed. There are many hours of unused footage. Plus, this was a show focussing on the Classic Ancient Astronaut Theory which Legendary Times Magazine represents.

insaneinthemembrane wrote:
[...] Sumerian information was tantamount to everything they were conveying.


No it is not. On the contrary. See my reasoning below.

insaneinthemembrane wrote:
For people who watched the show tonight and for the first time were hearing of this from Giorgio and Jason's point of view will be skeptical of them in the future if they later hear them speak of Sumerian/Annunaki.


Your argumentation is thoroughly flawed. I can tell you this: the moment you mention the word 'Annunaki' to anyone in the general public they look at you as if you have 2 heads growing on your shoulders.

You must be aware that his program was 100% intended for people who have never heard of the AAT. And when addressing people that have never heard of the AAT you want to stay as far away as possible from ever mentioning the word 'Annunaki.'

Such intrinsic details alienate the general public, no pun intended. So, in effect, you have it all backwards. Never forget, YOU ARE already enthralled with the topic. You don't need convincing. You're already convinced.

I DO understand what you're saying, but this program was primarily intended for people who had never heard about any of these topics. And the least alienating approach to these topics is to talk about anonymous extraterrestrials, just the way we did it.

In fact, as the Consulting Producer of the program it was I who made the suggestion to the network that this program does not address the Annunaki at all and only refers to them as Ancient Aliens or Ancient Astronauts. I'm pleased that the History Channel listened.

insaneinthemembrane wrote:
They will think, hey, I saw these guys in a History Channel special and they didn't say anything about this and then it makes them look wishy washy. You can't tell this story tonight and not tell of the Annunaki.


Uhm, yes we can and, no, no one would think that. What you suggest is tantamount to saying that because no one talked about any mysteries in China during this program, we (especially Jason and I) will NEVER be able to publicly talk about any mysteries in China! What you are suggesting is that, from now on, Jason and I can ONLY talk about what was presented in the 'Ancient Aliens' program, and nothing else because it'll make us "look wishy-washy." I hope you recognize how inherently weak your argumentation is. Wink

upperworld wrote:
Daniken's AAT was the focus of the program, and Sitchin's work, albeit astounding, is an offshoot of AAT that requires more interpretation and lacks some of the physical evidence that the History Channel focused on. To mention the Annunaki and Sitchin's interpretation of Sumerian texts would not have made much sense for a 5 minute segment as part of a larger special, instead it would require a two hour special of its own!


Exactly and thank you. It was pretty obvious that this show was a celebration of "40 years Chariots of the Gods" and at that, they succeeded in a splendid fashion and I am thoroughly stoked what the finished program presented.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: Great Information and Great show Reply with quote

Giorgio- Any time we can get the truth, or as close to the truth as possible, out to the masses... BRAVO. Thanks for putting the time into it and keeping Legendary Times, AAS up and running!

The show was well produced and there is more than enough information out there to make it a weekly show!




engert wrote:
Again, i congratulate you Giorgio it was an excellent program indeed.
I am suprissed why people don't want to hear alternative stories and does it have to take 40 years for things to be taken seriously by TV channels or other mainstream media.
It's seems just like with everything else, the mainstream media would like to keep status quo.
Imagine what would happen if someone someday can come up with a pill to cure diabeties.
Do you know what would happen?
The billion dollar industry that produces diabetes products would cease to exist and there may be a lot of pissed of people.
Some thing would happen if someone came up with an engine that does not use gas but water instead. Dependence on oil would be gone and all the companies that produce oil would be gone.

Now..imagine what could happen if people spend more time and money (instead of wars) researching our past with an open mind and arriving to the conclusion that people 17.000 years ago could not have build such structures themselves. What would happen?
What would happen to religion and all the status quo as we know it.
A lot of people don't like change, but i've always embraced it.
We as a species think that are smart and we know everything but we are so arrogant that we don't see our ignorance.
If instead we as a species devoted half of the time we spend fighting each other to science instead, we as a race would arrive to amazing discoveries.

By the way, i recorded the History channel special. Hopefully there are more shows like this in the future.

Thanks again.
Engert.


Engert- The reason that any of the truth has not been played out by MSM, or the general world educational body is very simple...it undermines the status quo of their control over people and loots their thiefdoms.

Education and religion are geneally ruled and controlled by those who wish to keep the general population and under their rule. I cant wait to hear the new excuses and reasons why all of this is hogwash! In fact, the steadfast resistance is proof in itself that there is a whole lot more to this then they will care to acknowledge.


firstly, hello and welcome to the forum.
secondly, please try to avoid double posting.

the forum rules are located here: http://www.legendarytimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=231

thanks and i hope you enjoy the forum.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello all,
My first post here. I saw this program in March and again last night. I read Chariots of the Gods in the '70s and was hooked. The proof of ancient aliens is all over the Earth. Mr. von Daniken would not be so adamant about this for decades if he were some kind of charlatan. The program was well done and I hope there is a follow-up to it. I will not take the word of someone just because they are a scientist. A lot of them seem to have blinders on. I guess they are more worried about their professional reputation. Kudos to Giorgio for his work.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious, does anyone know when the DVD of this show is going to be released or has it already? I always keep an eye out at Best Buy whenever I go, but I'm not sure they will/would carry this DVD whenever it's released.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

never heard about ancient astronauts or chariot of the Gods until i watched this program, i must say it was mind blowing. i have now watched it 3 times & it just gets more interesting, also i am now reading chariots of the gods & have 6 sitchen books. one skeptic on the program stated, if we were visited, why are ancient structures pyramids not skyscrapers. i think like anything else, start with the basics & check in on the progress from time to time. by his analogy you could say why didn't they teach us english, or cursive writing. anyhow, i am now a believer.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

space2055 wrote:
if we were visited, why are ancient structures pyramids not skyscrapers.
Atlantis was said to have buildings covered with metal. It makes little sense to cover stone columns with metal plates, but metal columns do make sense. But "surely" that sceptic has been to Atlantis and seen that there were no skyscrapers there.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why SHOULD they build scyscraper like structures?

They witnessed something - and i am sure about that because pyramid structures are far to common.

This would explain why all of a sudden everybody built pyramids all over the world at virtually the same time. There are later buildings of course and more modern buildings have only kept certain elements through stylizing something not known or only passed vocally or completely forgotten simply copying the style. Stupas and even church towers come to mind.

They would try to imitate something they witnessed. Cargo cult.
It also explains the tremendous interest in astronomy.

If you want to build a great monument you built something like the Tatsch Mahall. A pyramid is a strange form to shape a building. There has to be a reason why this odd structure is so common.

The symbol of god is often asociated with an eye in a radiating pyramid. Coincidence? I do not think so. The eye is also the symbol of Horus.

For the record: i think the Pacal plate is no good piece to support the idea. To me it looks not like a spaceship but a sacrifical altar. But thats just me, no offence.

Edit: something i strumbled across looking for information about Atlantis (Plato) is they are said to have used a mystic material called "orichalcos". From the description it seems to be bronze. Pretty early use of alloys i have to say. Around the last ice age. Of course that is only a story...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arkanoid1212 wrote:
... A pyramid is a strange form to shape a building. There has to be a reason why this odd structure is so common...


As obvious of a statement as that is, I'd never actually followed that train of thought. This is fantastically interesting to me, as I now wonder what in nature is pyramidal in shape? Volcanoes, I suppose? What "thing" might be significant enough to warrant building mammoth sized replicas of it?

I've never in my life entertained the notion that the great pyramids were a completely human endeavor (which annoyed a lot of teachers in elementary school Smile ) but, to be fair I have to try and think of it from different angles. Gotta debunk it, and if I can't, then I guess we're left with AA technology or Lost Civilizations. The latter doesn't work for me because of what was going on in the rest of the world at the time the pyramids are dated as originating.

So, no, all of these pyramids popping up all over the world in generally a very small time frame on the time line (with the later versions not nearly as perfect as the Great Pyramids) - it's just not possible without advanced intelligence that did not exist here on earth during those time periods. Advanced intelligence that was seemingly used VERY few times and then the knowledge was lost/forgotten.

Now...to prove to myself that what I just said is true...what's my next step? Smile
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puma punku has got to be the most amazing structure on the planet. not sure who was credited for building these structure's, but to have people think man walked out their cave, dropped the spear & picked up diamond tip tool's is pretty ridiculous, that has to rate up there with JFK's magic bullet. the craftmanship & maticulous detail of these stone's by far exceed's man's technology for that period. i have to agree with Mr.T, puma punku make's the pyramid's look like "lincoln log's".
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