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[MANKIEWICZ]

Just wanted to add that comments have been made about wars and
what a waste of humanity and resources it is. And what good it would
be to have some leader turn this around and use these resources
for the good of humanity and not against it.

This is not going to happen in the manner stated. It would never
be a permanent thing. History shows ‘good guys’ never
win.

They get assassinated; so you need a team of world leaders to
get even close to that objective because there are so many differences.

This has happened during wars and cease-fires are on record
even though they were temporary.

Strangely, some people see this as a threat of their
freedoms. It is if your ‘freedom’ is to threaten
someone.

It has been widely said that a bigger threat, from space, might stop
us from wars and bring us together because future wars
here would cause ‘them’ to wipe us out. The world would
have to fear for its life if a stray war broke out.

Is that what it would take??

"Where all think alike; nobody thinks very much."-Lippman
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[Jeff Sheets]

I honestly think that if we got out into space for whatever reason, we would just take our wars with us. We have the "megalomania bug" in our makeup and we do not make very good cattle. We are just not disciplined enough as a race to play fair with ourselves, let alone aliens.

Not to be negative, but I think that pretty much guarantees that we WILL manage to get out there...if we don't blow ourselves up or get hit by a big rock from space first.
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[MANKIEWICZ]

If we worshipped them, then we would be no better off than
a cargo cult, which I painfully think some have done in the past and
past it down thru the ages.

If they have been here for millenia and building bases
for an eventual takeover then that is entirely different.

Since someone above said that they couldn't bring enough firepower
with them on the first trip then maybe that's what they've been
doing for a while. And we're still here for a while.Call them group A.

If they are capable of delivering firepower on their first
visit then we're toast. Call them group B.
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[Zagrefez]

Well.. If they had their experiment of humans, of course they blow this race away.. We are so badly messed up. But anyway, are these gods higher advanced human race or someone other race either from earth or other planet.. And did these gods create only human or did they also create our solar system too? Reasonable would be that these gods was also breathing living objects in this universum, but just much more advanced and intelligent race. And I heard somewhere that there could be three different intelligence levels, and we aren't reached even the one, and those gods was on level three.. But if these "gods" created humans and not solar system who did create that? BUT! Is it have to be so that someone is created all, or someone handles everything, or is it just human mind what thinks so? ...And then comes illusion what twists our mind so badly that we don't see difference between reality and illusion, like schizophrenic man does...? The module thing what may have inserted in our head or DNA could be possible what really controls us much than we can't imagine...

I hope that someday human would use his whole brain capacity and be also the god. Well.. if these gods also created earth and solar system, there is possibility that someday we could be the also the rulers of universum...

[Liborio]

Iv'e just read your quote on this discussing Truthseeker. A bit late I see I just became a member of this great org. If I can just ask a few questions or put my 2 cents worth. I hope that is permisable? And I don't mean that in a sarcastic way I'm just learning the rules, thanks for everyone's understanding. You all make great points in earthling military stratigies. We know this because they have happend in our history and have worked or have not. Before you start laying out the ground work for any military defense or offensive strike you have better know your enemy. If these AA Gods do exist and are the one's that are visiting our planet including the one over our nations capital and other restricted areas don't worry about a defense. They got us beat hands down. If they want or wanted to they could and can destroy this planet and we can't do anything about it but die. What makes me so sure about this Common Sense! Think about it, a life form so intelligent that can go about the universe. Things we can't do with all of our tech. So they say we are cabable of this and that now but why we don't do it? Money? I wonder what they used to finance their programs for interstellar voyage. I don't suggest to ly down but there is simply nothing we can do as a species not now. Yes I think they are simly just watching us. Maybe that is the answer. We are as a species pron towards violence to get what we want or need from each other. I'm sorry Truthseeker I don't agree with you about putting in people or a goverment like you said. Why? We are human and just look at our history. Someone else will take your kindness for weakness in this planet.

[Sagittarii]

i watched a movie today, the day the earth stood still, that was sorta along these lines...crappy ending to movie though.

i feel we are a virus to Earth and that we need to seriously change our ways or Mother Earth is going teach us a lesson. if its not earth teaching us a lesson it may be the "aliens" who do it.
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[truthseeker]

the original "The Day The Earth Stood Still" made in 1954 is a far superior film to the resent awful remake

anyways, people are not a virus or cancer on the planet, the biggest problem/threat to this planet are lying Govts and greedy corporations. this alone is a MASSIVE topic but suffice to say, and generally speaking, people are not the problem, that means we have been forced to live out of balance with nature by our Govts and the corporations, and because we dont know how to live in balance with nature its this that is the problem....

if you understand what i'm getting at?

try reading this and you will start to see what's going on:

http://www.tpuc.org/content/marijuana-conspiracy
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[Liborio]

Hello Satittarii and Truthseeker. He is right about the oringinal movie being much better. FX can only do so much for any movie. Are we a problem or threat to our planet? YES WE ARE! And the planet or Mother Nature is showing us bits and pieces of what is to come if we continue to abuse her the way we have as it's most intelligent inhabitant species. GLOBEL WARMING, some of it normal but most caused by us humans of the world. The governments and coorporations of the world that only see wealth and power. When the most important thing should be the welfare of our home, our planet. As of today we can't just move to another home like house to house or town to town. We only have this great big blue wonder that we, well not you guys but most in the world don't appriciate or think of as in danger. Guess what if it's in danger so is everyone and everything living in it. It won't take aliens to come down and teach us a lesson. It will be mother earth with more frequent and powerful storms, volcanos, tornados, quakes, heatwaves, did I leave anything that isn't scarey but true. I love living in this great technologic age but I wonder how nice and wonderful it might have been to live during nicer gentler times. Hum was there ever such a time. I like to think so. Anyway lots of luck in our times and many great expectations. We'll need it.

[truthseeker]

sorry to break you the bad news guys but, there is no such thing as "man made global warming", this is fact and not up for debate ( i say bad news because 99% of people are unable or unwilling to accept the fact that there is no such thing as MMGW).

it makes me sick when i hear on the radio or see TV adds saying we are killing the planet because we produce CO2 which is being trapped in the upper atmosphere and is causing the planet to warm up...what a load of crap!

firstly, we are carbon based life forms living on a carbon based planet...

we breath in oxygen and we breath out CO2, we also produce through industry and our cars CO2 BUT here's the revelation...TREES AND PLANTS BREATH IN CO2 AND GIVE US OXYGEN in return.

2ndly, CO2 is NOT a green house gas, 95% of green house gases are actually made up of water vapour...FACT!!!

i have read papers by top level scientists who have written petitions to the Govts of the world begging them to tell the truth regarding MMGW, because there are 35,000++ scientists who are in agreement that we are living in a CO2 low period of time. meaning, we are also living in a period of time which is low in oxygen.

its a proven and easily verifiable fact that when there is more CO2 plants and trees grow bigger and we have better harvests as well...

sorry for taking this off-topic, i will be more than happy to split this thread so we can continue somewhere else if you so wish...
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[Jeff Sheets]

Truthseeker,

I am totally with you on this one. The world's governments are using scientists and "global warming" as a fulcrum to force our dependence on them so that we willingly give up what freedom's and privacies we have left. I have been researching this a bit and according to ALL the data I can find, this is the first time in Earth's history that C02 has been this high "BEFORE" a global warming event. The C02 is not the cause of global warming...it is the RESULT! They have it backwards.

We have indeed been releasing C02 into the atmosphere, but the biosphere is structured to make use of the extra C02 and force an equilibrium. Up until the 80s (before the govt got in the ecology business) scientists were predicting a new ice age. This new data (our release of C02) may be slowing it's progress, but not much.

Check out these links:

http://www.physorg.com/news178046136.html

and

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091119141039.htm

My radar goes off whenever things don't make sense, and this is one of those times. The govt can get anything they want to fund because there is always a scientist out there hoping to be the recipient of that funding.

This may really be a candidate for a split. Do we have a Global Warming topic?
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rushing, without faltering. To meet and
master the four natural challenges:
Fear, Clarity of Thought, Power, and the
Desire to Rest.

[truthseeker]

hi Jeff,


hmmm...i dont think PH PPB 2 style forums allow for splitting topics because i cant find the split option any where's

so, i think any topic on climate change comes under politics so i'll make a new thread entitled "Climate Change, fact or fiction?" and post it on the politics board


http://www.legendarytimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4933#4933




please do not post or reply in this thread about climate change from this point on. if anyone wishes to reply to mine or Jeffs post regarding climate change you can use the quote option and copy/paste the post in question and your reply into the new thread.

thanks everyone.
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[Liborio]

I guess you know everything or believe everything you hear. No such thing as green house effect Huh. Is that why there are no trees in Mexico City were there is plenty of co2 for them to thrive or in other 3rd world countries that produce so much of it thru there Manufacturing practices. Hum? Maybe just a coincidence. Have you seen what a wildfire looks like from space in the no-corporate-stores-here!? There goes or oxygen level some. Because those rainforest produce most of the planets life sustaining thing you mentioned they give off. It doesn't make me sick like you to hear about MMGW it makes me sad to hear some people are open to some things and closed to the possibility of otherthings. Like scientist know everything and have never been wrong. You can go on to another topic I said another 2 cents worth. Thank you for hearing me out poeple.

[Bob137]

Just think of how our ancestors have witten about the Gods, (Ancient Aliens), if we are attacked by a much higher civilization, and they destroy all the military of all governments, and take over, and say it is for our good. The Christians and Islamic, and Jewish, will all spout the Bible Revelations, and say it is God come back to kill evil,a nd put a new Jerusalem in place, and these people will bow down to them, and believe they are Gods, and will pray to them, and give them all the money, and be slaves for them, because that is what they believe GOD wants. Crazy huh, but listen to all of them, read the Bible, the Koran, the Torah, etc.. It was a setup from the beginning, and it may be getting put into plan to be played out. I was in black ops during the 70's and we were sent to other countries back then under cover to keep Armageddon from happening, but now the military is set up to group together to make Armageddon happen by the New World Order, and it's counterparts. This information s highly classified, and the y plan wars way ahead of when they actually take place. I had already heard of when the first gulf war was to be 2 years prior to when it actually was brought out to come about, and that ain't all. If you want things to change, first you have to change yourself, then help others to change by educating them, it takes time, which we don't have much of left possibly, so I would say get started, and hope it isn't too late.

[Liborio]

[Path of Least Resistance]

did anyone see Stephen HAwkings comments about trying to contact extraterrestrial life? he says it will be like Columbus vs the NAtives and mostly we will get raped for our resources.

hmmm just like in ancient times?

[Liborio]

[Bob137]

If is the biggest little word in the dictionary! We really have no idea what they will be like, except for what our real history shows. It really depends on have they progressed also to the point of not being such control freaks, or will it be another race, we hadn't met yet, or will they be worse than they were before, or etc... So if is the conjunction of what we are trying to contemplate. Sorry about all the big words, just being a smart ass. I have hope they will have become more enlightened their selves, and will come back to help us adjust and become more enlightened ourselves, but anything is possible really. The Hopi state that they will come back, and take the Hopi and others like them, (the ones that take care of the planet), away to another planet in the belief of a better existence. Possible, yes, will they really take them to another planet, will it be like this one, will they be taken care of, and set up for a better life, or will they be left to their own devices, or will they be controlled, or will they be take them to a desolate planet, and make them dig for more gold? So many questions.

[tiaka9]

[Path of Least Resistance]

[Metaluna]

I think we are totally trashing this planet. Who'd want to come take this place over!

The Pacific Ocean Garbage Patch

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/translating-uncle-sam/stories/what-is-the-great-pacific-ocean-garbage-patch

The Rainforests

http://www.rain-tree.com/facts.htm

Ok I'll get off my soap box, just wanted to point out this planet is a mess.
The Aliens would have to be coming from a real $hit-hole of a place to want to move in and take over here. I'd be more inclined to think they want to eat us.

Maybe that is where alot of missing kids go.

http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2008/09/1-million-children-go-missing-every.html
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Out on the edge you see all the kinds of things you can't see from the center.

[fotoguy]

[Path of Least Resistance]

they'll just take what milk they can get and move on

[Liborio]

[Metaluna]

Hope for the best, expect the worst.

I find this philosophy serves me well in virtually all aspects of my life here on Earth.
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I want to stand as close to the edge as I can without going over.
Out on the edge you see all the kinds of things you can't see from the center.

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