Aliens and the NASA Connection (March 10, 2012)

[Moon]

I am actually looking forward to this episode. I really hope they don't muck it up. NASA and ancient aliens? Interesting.

[Ihatecoverups]

I first want to start off with all the German scientists who were brought over to the US to aid in the NASA program after being pardoned of their heinous war crimes. Operation Paper Clip. I believe that the Germans knew of ET technology and were brought here for that specific reason; for their knowledge and to share it with us. Wernher von Braunaynus I believe was an extremely intelligent man and when he joined the SS, I believe he understood this technology better than anyone else so he was able to somewhat re-engineer some of it to an extent. The fact that NASA was using Egyptian Dr. Farouk El-Baz to plan dates, times, and locations sounds very interesting and makes a lot of sense if you believe in ATT. The symbol of Asar with the 3 stars of Orion's Belt and the Mercury Mission Patches, almost identical to and Egyptian onc, would also make sense. To visit the Sea Of Tranquility, the flat surface under the moon directly under Orion's Belt and other specific places makes me think that NASA did have another mission other than just visiting the moon. Especially, when you add in the fact of the replica golden olive branch left and the obelisk disk left behind stating, "Good Will and Peace" from 73 world leaders. Then, when you add in the Communion Ceremony that was done; I believe that these were all indeed an offering and sacrifice to the "Gods." Lost evidence from a space mission so important sounds like a strait up lie to me, a cover-up. I believe that the Space shuttles Discover STS48 and Columbia STS80 did capture footage of UFO's. The speeds they said they moved at and their virtually impossible change of direction that I saw in such a manner seems unexplainable in anyway. The fact that these were astronauts reporting this adds much credibility, and when they say something about ET's over a public radio and the transmission goes dead, I believe as well the communications were transferred to a private secure line. And then of coarse when they return to Earth, their not going to be aloud to say one word. As for what the Salviet 7 spaceship saw, I cannot say. I think they were either ET's, actual angels or some sort of entity. I do think Secret Societies do play a major role in the NASA space missions especially when a the number 33 keeps showing up. I think JFK secretly verged with Russia afterward because something was found and we needed help to try and find more evidence of aliens that were known of. Maybe this happened after Apollo 11. Maybe Apollo 11 did find evidence of ET's. I can't say, but it would make sense. As for Mars, the face, the pyramids, the other unexplained "structures," they could be natural. However, when you add in the fact that NASA now believe Mars was once a habitable place with water and an atmosphere, I lean towards the fact that they are not natural. I cannot say what they are though. I do believe though, that we will at least find microscopic organisms beneath the surface in the near future and possible ice. To end this post, I'll say that I do believe there is a secret space program going on with extraterrestrial technology with the help from German, American, and Russian scientists. With the bases rooted from the Operation Paper Clip, because as I said, I believe the Germans had ET technology. I think NASA is hiding, "losing," and covering up a lot of stuff they're really doing, and I believe they have a secret agenda.
Andrew

[Don Morace]

Hi Folks,Don here.I agree to a great extent with your critique and would like to add some more.I nearly fell out of my chair when Dr.Edgar Mitchell said flat out that NASA is aware of several different species of ET! and the criptic dialogue of Alden"we aliens"when stepping onto the Moon!A lot of the subjects they touched on weren't new,space bases on the Moon(project horizon,1950's buy the US army),sacred dates(Richard Hoagland and Mike Barra,the past 30 or so years)and secret societies influenceing the space program,again Hoagland and Barra from the Enterprise Mission.Overall it was a great episode but they could have expanded on each topic and probably could have made more episodes from these topics.I think they are trying to pique peoples interests in order to get more believers but not giving too much info all at once.Don out.........................

[Ace Rimmer]

"these are astronauts, not insane people"

I thought it was a great episode and must have been an eye opener for a lot of folks who aren't into this subject.

I also find it very telling that NASA "lost some evidence" from one of the most important events in human history..pleeeze!!!

I wish "they" would just come clean with us. I am tired of being treated like some child who believes in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy and my parents are afraid to tell me the truth, for fear of shattering me.

I think most of us can handle the truth.

[missy]

I thouht it was a great episode! I was shocked to hear this and copied Buzz entire quote:

We aliens, who happen to go down the ladder on July 20th 1969, were certainly part of a magnificent race that was able to
all of a sudden appear in the garden of eden.

Can anyone confirm that he actually said this? It seems the camera was off him for the last part of the quote and the tone of his voice changed slightly. I have looked everywhere for this exact quote and cannot find it.

Does anyone have any thoughts on what he was trying to say here? I see 2 biblical references: Could the ladder be a reference to Jacob's ladder? And of course, the garden of eden.

[Moon]

I am probably in the small minority here, but while I enjoyed the episode, it looked more like one of the conspiracy theory sites. I was hoping we would get more than the two videos (which could be ice crystals as UFO Hunters showed in their episode by replicating the same effect on a video) and the usual Nazi ties to secret societies bit.

David Icke showing up was the nail in the coffin of this episode.

Fun to watch, but I would have to give it an F for content.

[seeker1117]

Purdy harsh, Teach! I'd give it a good solid "B"...I heard several things I hadn't heard before, and I absolutely LOVED that they had Buzz and all the other astronauts on as well as what they had to say...and why not balance Buzz out with David Icke? I kinda wondered when they were going to put him on, and it's actually kinda odd that they used him in an episode on NASA, and not Reptilians!

[Moon]

I know it was harsh, but it had nothing to do with the ancient alien theory other than bringing in the conspiracy theories involving NASA, its involvement with Satanism, Reptilians from David Icke, and other stuff. It was fun to watch, but it was pure fluff and no substance.

There was nothing on the program I didn't know about, and I was hoping they would show artifacts of what look like astronauts and other items.

I should of expected it to be about the usual conspiracy theories given the title, but I had my hopes up again.

Ancient alien theorists believe is another pet peeve of mine. Just because I do think there is a possibility of extraterrestrials visiting in antiquity, doesn't mean I believe every single theory or idea out there.

Content was F entertainment was B so it gets a C- as a whole.

[seeker1117]

I hear ya about "ancient alien theorists believe..."

I did, however, notice that he actually said "SOME ancient alien theorists" this time at least once, so maybe our cries have been heard!

[Inquiring Mind]

Not a bad program at all. I found it very inquisitive and informative. Two outstanding notables in the field of NASA research were noticeably missing from the program however, Richard Hoagland and Jay Weidner. No NASA program/expose is complete without these two. It was also nice to hear from Jim Marrs toward the end. What a shame Icke only recieved 25 seconds, his segment was one of the most interesting in the entire episode.

[Scottos Maximos]

I thought it was a really good episode. One of the best probably for convincing people who's mind was not made up.

The criticism of lack of connection to 'ancient alien's is not so as Giorgio Tsoukalos often says "They visited then, and they are still visiting us now"
Therefore the video from the thrusters of the spacerocket was very interesting when it showed the spaceships changing direction so abruptly!
The query over what was on the dark side of the moon as well as the face on mars was also good evidence of 'ancient aliens'.

The best thing was getting the astronaut's on to speak on the show as for them to put their faces to this show does in itself speak volumes.
They added a lot of credibility to the subject and how it was presented by even appearing on the television show.

I have to say I was not aware of the German Genius Rocket creator until this episode and will enjoy following up information about him.

I didn't realise the belt of orion had made it into the Nasa logo either. I love all these connections also! something is definitly in them doing that!

[hotinfo]

I actually posted this comment on the wrong forum ... was continuing posting on the welcome forum ...
anyhow this was my post and I would love feedback

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Re: where did the aliens first come

by hotinfo » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:32 am
yesterday i watched Ancient Aliens - the NASA episode.

Now, i strongly believe that a few thousand years ago we did not have the ability to build what we had then with the technology that existed here on earth. So, like in real life, a "neighbour" helped us. Not hard to believe as we have billions of them !
But in the show, they mention that about 40 years ago we went to the moon.
I am one to believe that 40 years ago we did not have the technology to travel there (I was 11 years old), go pass the miles of harmful rays, land the craft, and takeoff and come back to earth. And since the last decades we have been studying the pictures which are questionable, the voices are too clear and the communication is too fast, the time of day and location of the spacecraft is out of whack, to name just a few irregularities. This Disney type of show, which in reality could not possible have been done - even moon landings after alleged moon landings show the same starless mountainous background!
All that said, it surprised me to hear from Ancient Aliens show that we did not have the technology to build the pyramids (which I totally agree) but did have it to go to the moon ... but like I explained before and using the same thought of mind, we couldn't have gone to the moon !!!??? where is the missing link here ....
Robert

[Moon]

If someone were to watch the show Ancient Aliens and caught this episode as the first one, they would not tune in again. It was not about ancient alien theories but more about the conspiracy theories about the Moon and Moon Landing. Not a good episode to convince people of the possibility of ancient extraterrestrial visitation and probably would have the opposite effect.

I do think this Friday's episode dedicated to Puma Punku would be the one to watch for those who have questions about the viability of the AAT.

[Ihatecoverups]

I thouht it was a great episode! I was shocked to hear this and copied Buzz entire quote:

We aliens, who happen to go down the ladder on July 20th 1969, were certainly part of a magnificent race that was able to
all of a sudden appear in the garden of eden.

Can anyone confirm that he actually said this? It seems the camera was off him for the last part of the quote and the tone of his voice changed slightly. I have looked everywhere for this exact quote and cannot find it.

Does anyone have any thoughts on what he was trying to say here? I see 2 biblical references: Could the ladder be a reference to Jacob's ladder? And of course, the garden of eden.

I just took a look at this part of the episode. Your Quote is exact. You are correct in the fact that the camera was off him for a bit. I believe that was him speaking the whole time. The change in tone of voice can be explained simply by the fact it seems he's speaking off the top of his head. I don't think this was a written speech. When you speak with something you have strong feelings about, your tone in voice will change for certain words. It truly sounded like the same person speaking the whole time. I'm 100% convinced that was him speaking. However, I don't think he was making any biblical references. "We Aliens." I think he said this because technically under the definition, we were aliens in space. "To go down the ladder." I think he was referring to the astronauts getting off the spaceship. And, " Able to all of a sudden appear in the Garden of Eden," I believe he was trying to say we were somewhere where mankind has never been before. Like the Garden of Eden where the many of the Holy Books describe where man was created. We were there for the first time. This is my interpretation.

[missy]

That's interesting because I took it totally different. That he was making a reference to aliens appearing suddenly in the garden of eden (as the gods), and now we are part of that race because we were able to appear on the moon. It always seems like Buzz is trying to tell us something, but he's not able to come right out with it.

I agree that entire quote was his voice, but I was questioning whether it was one coherent statement, or was it pieced together? I heard the first part before and have found that part on youtube. I would think the entire quote should be available somewhere, but I could not find it.

[TheMoofiaMob]

You can tell that Buzz Aldrin is almost ready to spill his guts on the stuff he has been sworn to to not reveal for all of these years.

[cRush]

We aliens, who happen to go down the ladder on July 20th 1969, were certainly part of a magnificent race that was able to
all of a sudden appear in the garden of eden.

We aliens,
We is inclusive of himself, thus it must be assumed he is referring to himself as an alien. He is an alien because he is landing on a terrestrial body foreign to his homeland. The same as a Mexican crossing into United States is an "alien" (I use this example because I live near the border, and it is familiar to me). Alien is just another meaning for foreigner. He is foreign to the moon - he is extraterrestrial - which means he is from a terrestrial body outside of the scope of the moon.

who happen to go down the ladder on July 20th 1969,
This sounds like they are descending down the ladder of their lunar module, which we have seen in so many photographs, onto the lunar plane. I understand the inherent desire to equate this to Jacob's ladder, but remember, Jacob's ladder ascends into the heavens. Why would they be traveling down the ladder, onto the moon? If they were traveling down Jacob's ladder, they would be traveling to Earth.

were certainly part of a magnificent race
This is him boasting about this remarkable achievement by mankind, to leave one's own planet, and land in a completely foreign land. We are magnificent because we have been able to achieve so much together. Couple this with the quotes about "one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind".

that was able to all of a sudden appear in the garden of eden.
He is equating the moon's environment to the garden of eden. It remains unmolested by man-kind to this point, thus, it is pure, untouched, virginal - like the garden of eden. This is a metaphor to describe the moon in it's pristine state. Remember, similes use "like", but metaphors, do not.

I think it is a stretch to try and bend this to mean that aliens are coming down Jacob's ladder into the Garden of Eden in the context from which it is from. Since he is talking in the first person (we, plural first person), we have to assume that he is talking about himself, and fellow astronauts. That changes the entire perspective.

*EDIT*
I see someone else actually came to similar conclusions about the post. It seems the most logical explanation for what Buzz is saying here.

[seeker1117]

And it's not the first time that Buzz has used that "we aliens" term...he also used it in one of the documentaries about the Apollo missions that came out in the last few years.

[cRush]

And it's not the first time that Buzz has used that "we aliens" term...he also used it in one of the documentaries about the Apollo missions that came out in the last few years.

Well, technically, anytime we leave the planet, we become aliens to the new environment.

To what exactly do you think he is referring? He's clearly talking about himself. Do you believe he is calling himself a non-human? I don't get that.

[missy]

No, I did not think he was referring to himself as a non-human alien. Your interpretation is the safe, logical one. I just feel that Buzz words things in a way that could be interpreted as an innocent comment or as a clue for those who listen closely.

Another way to interpret it could be "WE (mankind/earthlings) are now apart of this interstellar race that can travel through space and visit other terrestrial objects. The message is: We did it, now we know how they did it. And it's very possible that they did it, because we can do it. And maybe this gives an explaination for some of the biblical stories/events. And maybe now we have an answer for how mankind "suddenly appeared".

[seeker1117]

To what exactly do you think he is referring? He's clearly talking about himself. Do you believe he is calling himself a non-human? I don't get that.

Sorry I didn't see this 'til now. Life's been throwin' me some nasty curve balls lately.

I think he was simply implying that, since he and Armstrong were from Earth, they technically WERE "aliens" on the moon. That's all. I don't really think that there was any "hidden message", just the simple statement that they were NOT NATIVE to the moon, therefore they themselves became, in that moment, "aliens".

[Don Morace]

Hi Folks,Don here.I was a bit surprised that they didn't show the pictures of the "shard and the tower"when they were showing the anomalous pictures of the moon and Mars.Especially because Mike Barra was one of the first people to anyilise the moon pix and the face on Mars.As far as NASA loseing some footage of some moon missions etc.I believe that that is more of thier bullcrap.Jack Casher anilysed the STS 48 pix so he probably retained the photos,but now without thier origanals they can debunk his photos.Don out.......................

[VincentMcConnell]

Sorry to bump this a little bit, but I must say, I was not a fan of this episode. I also noticed that Giorgio didn't appear much in it.
Anyway, the reason I really didn't like it much? That Mike Barra guy or whatever his name is, was calling everyone at NASA a freemason... I am a proud defender of the official Apollo story and to see it mutilated by Barra calling Buzz Aldrin a free mason and David Childress saying the moon was a spaceship, I was not too happy.
There are great episodes, but it's best when they stay Ancient. The more modern the times in the episodes get, the more it can sometimes get a little weird.

Not sure if anyone felt this way either.