Aliens and Dinosaurs (May 4 2012)

[Moon]

It took a while for the title to list on my schedule, but it looks quite interesting. I hope it isn't the aliens wiped out the dinosaurs to create us 65 million years later. It seems like a rather long wait.

[Ace Rimmer]

It took a while for the title to list on my schedule, but it looks quite interesting. I hope it isn't the aliens wiped out the dinosaurs to create us 65 million years later. It seems like a rather long wait.

I have a feeling, well from seeing the commercials for this episode, that is one of the ideas brought up.

[Dr. Z]

I want to see this one!

[Ace Rimmer]

I liked this episode very much. It gives a person much to think about.

Mostly if the dinosaurs were wiped out intentionally to make room for the next experiment, then this certainly does not bode well for us. We can't be very much of a success, unless they wanted to create a race that could trash a planet, make species of animals go extinct (hmmm like our creators only we aren't doing it in one fell swoop) and basically not get along with each other and constantly be at war.

The examples we saw of dinosaur like animals in ancient carvings was pretty telling too. Our time lines must really be off kilter. I mean the accepted mainstream views.
I think we have been on this planet far longer than mainstream says anyway.

[Inquiring Mind]

I'm watching it on Youtube as I type and I'm about half way through it. So far I'm loving it big time. This is probably one of the better episodes in quite awhile.

[Dr. Z]

Great episode!

So Dinosaur bones are radio active? Museums have to paint their bones with a lead substance? I never knew this. How did this happen?

Interesting that carbon dating could be off.

The drawing of dinosaurs in Peru, Mexico, and Cambodia long before dinosaurs were accepted by main stream science is very interesting. How did this happen?

I agree with the thinking that humans as hunter / gathering tribes could not flurish for long periods of time with dinosaurs roaming the earth.

Extension, or extermination? I have my own theory, and its not necessarily an asteroid! Very large animals have a hard time staying cool. If the Earth was somehow heated up, the larger animals would perish, but the smaller ones would not.

[Moon]

I would think if the extraterrestrials were involved in this they wouldn't have waited 60 million years to start a new race of beings.

I keep hoping the next episode will be a good one like Puma Punka, but we are getting ideas from other episodes rehashed over and over again.

I would do a season with only 12 episodes and run it 18 months after the other. The break time would give the producers plenty of time to actually delve into some very intriguing ideas. It seems the last few seasons were rushed to order so they could air much quicker.

[cRush]

Max,

Maybe after destroying the planet with nuclear weapons capable of this magnitude of destruction, it took a very long time for the planet to recover, and the new ecosystem stabilize.
Perhaps the alien race responsible lives extraordinarily longer lives than we do, and 65 million years is a drop in the bucket.
It's also palpable that it took them 65 million years to return to seed the Earth after initially destroying it, if they don't possess faster than light travel. That would be one hell of a patient race, though!
Maybe they planted the seed a few thousand years after wiping out the dinosaurs, but it took a few million years for us to evolve into what they had programmed?

On another note, what's with the long delays between episodes? I fear the worst for the series - it's starting to look like this might become the final season, and that they are struggling to find enough investments to continue producing and airing episodes, even on H2. What a shame.

[Moon]

Most of these types of shows run for four seasons so it would not be surprising if this was the last season done. I would think they would still do specials of this type.

Biologists studied Mt St Helens soon after its major eruption and found plant life growing soon after along with the return of many animals. They learned how resilient Mother Nature was in spite of a huge disaster. I would think after one thousand years the Earth would of been stable for the extraterrestrials to reseed the Earth with life they favored.

[missy]

I think this was one of the worst episodes to date. Most of the drawings they showed were clearly birds or serpents. They lost me at "the head at the base of Chitzen Itza is a dinosaur". I'm surprised they even tried to go there.

[DivineQueer]

I think this was one of the worst episodes to date. Most of the drawings they showed were clearly birds or serpents. They lost me at "the head at the base of Chitzen Itza is a dinosaur". I'm surprised they even tried to go there.

Well, I really do not think there were some nuclear holocaust, as that simply would have been a too destructive way, if to make place for another species.
IF the Holocaust were manmade, the suggestion that the theorised destroyers rather changed the course of an Asteroid and set it on course to Earth, makes much more sense.
In either case, it cannot be denied that the Cambodian Temple-carving is highly fascinating.

[seeker1117]

The photo of the Stegasaurus on the Cambodian temple is fascinating. Interesting that the thing encircling it could be interpreted as two things (to my eyes, anyhow):

1. A snake or serpent coiling around it.

2. A wave engulfing it (think of a surfer in "the tube").

Not that I'm sayin' we had Surfin' Stegos...but what if the Cambodian message were two-fold: the Reptilians caused a meteor to crash and the resulting flood wiped out the Stegos.

Sorry, I can't help it...my brain just works that way.

[Moon]

It is an Indian rhinoceros with horns sticking from its head.

http://www.stupiddinosaurlies.org/the-s ... that-isn-t

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-ne ... -cambodia/

Too many Creationists use that above photo to show dinosaurs walked with humans.

[Brut65]

Sry, just joining the forum. When was this suppose to air. It would be interesting to watch.

[Inquiring Mind]

Yeah, that Cambodian temple carving of what appears to be a Stegosaurus is quite interesting. At this point I'm pretty convinced that it's an authentic find. The Chinese (very close to Cambodia) afterall were known to have had knowledge of dinosaur fossils and even collected and showcased them in museums according to the writings of Marco Polo (at a time when the west supposedly had no knowledge of dinosaurs). Considering this, it's totally plausible and within reason to assume that Cambodians or any other Asian culture within close promixity to the Chinese and of roughly the same time period, would also have had access to this same sort of knowledge pertaining to dinosaurs. Now whether this knowledge is due to actual direct encounters or an inherited stream of paleontological wisdom is up for debate in my opinion. I'm personally not convinced that all the dinosaurs went completely extinct in one fell swoop according to the 65 million year old 'extinction event' hypothesis, there are too many anomalous examples of out of place artifacts and saurian-like, cryptid sightings for this to be the definitive case.

Upon honest observation, I'm also not convinced at all that this Cambodian dinosaur carving is just some sort of rhinoceros simply for the fact that the two look nothing alike!


Indian Rhinoceros


Stegosaurus


Indian Rhinoceros


Stegosaurus

[Ace Rimmer]

It looks like a Stegosaurus to me too. Why would they carve the spikes all along on it's back when the Rhino doesn't have any.

[Buzi-Blu]

But the snake around it also has those protrusions too. Maybe it represents something else.

[Toby]

Imagine using a T-Rex as a frontline soldier. Imagine attaching weapons to a Stegasauras, and ride it into battle. You need to get on the roof of a building? Just climb up the neck of a Brontosauras. It'd be interesting to see what type of radar signature a Pterodactyl would leave, we know they'd be silent attacking from the air.

If our friendly neighborhood space travelers, did indeed manipulate/create the dinosaurs, I figure they're mad at somebody and might use them for war.

[PRF_Dakota]

A lot of interesting ideas presented here. Now whether or not if the images are actual dinosaurs no one that is alive today can honestly tell. What we can tell is what it looks like compared to past experience and to most it would look some sort of dinosaur-like creature at the very least. Now going by what the episode states and the time delay between dinosaurs and humans that is accepted in modern science, 65 million years is a bit too long of a wait even if the ETs were literally immortal. If they were to be living forever, yes they could do that, but eventually they would get bored. Now, agreed that this would be an argument of a creationist but hear me out, there are several anomalous figures as well as hominid fossils that date back way farther then humanity is supposed to be. So it is possible that some sort of man was around at that time, may not be man from this planet or even from this time period.

The basic idea that we need to remember is that whoever came here was capable of DNA manipulation and obviously experimented with what they could make from it. If they mixed in their DNA with what was available here at the time it is possible that we are reliving their history. Much like how a child would repeat the same mistakes of a parent if the parent is not careful.

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Mostly if the dinosaurs were wiped out intentionally to make room for the next experiment, then this certainly does not bode well for us. We can't be very much of a success, unless they wanted to create a race that could trash a planet, make species of animals go extinct (hmmm like our creators only we aren't doing it in one fell swoop) and basically not get along with each other and constantly be at war...

But the things is though with these kind of "experiments" if the subject is born alive and healthy it is enough success for the creators. Eventually we are going to have to split off and do our own thing.

[Zeppelin1969]

The only reason I found this episode interesting at all is the stegosaurus carving and the humanoid footprint fossils next to the dinosaur fossils. What this showed me is that our carbon dating techniques could be VERY wrong. I really don't think aliens wiped them out to make room for us. If anything, and this has been my theory for a long time, we originally came from Mars possibly hundred of thousands of years ago when the planet was livable and had to get rid of the dinosaurs first. Or at least a version of humanity came here from there because they knew the planet was going to die. As far as everything else, the series seems to be reaching deep for new subject matter.